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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 01, 2021, 08:12:09 AM

Question to the Stake "Plinko" experts out there?

People are saying you will hit the 1000x multiplier on Stake "Plinko" after more or less 32 000 bets, so if this is true.. does it mean that you can bet 31 999 bets at say $0.10 and then switch to $10 per bet and then win the 1000x ....surely it cannot be that easy?

I for one do not believe that Stake is counting all the individual bets to see when you are due for a "Plinko" win.... if it was, then the Provably fair (Client Seed + Server Seed) will not count for shit. Roll Eyes

Anyone tried this before?

I tried a similar strategy on Dice but it didn't work out well lol. The theory is nice but in practice it doesn't go that way. As Panjul has said, it is all based on luck and I have seen some people winning the 1000x (e.g. Roshtein hit the 1000x to win 1 million not so long ago).

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 01, 2021, 09:05:48 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on September 01, 2021, 08:12:09 AM

Question to the Stake "Plinko" experts out there?

People are saying you will hit the 1000x multiplier on Stake "Plinko" after more or less 32 000 bets, so if this is true.. does it mean that you can bet 31 999 bets at say $0.10 and then switch to $10 per bet and then win the 1000x ....surely it cannot be that easy?

I for one do not believe that Stake is counting all the individual bets to see when you are due for a "Plinko" win.... if it was, then the Provably fair (Client Seed + Server Seed) will not count for shit. Roll Eyes

Anyone tried this before?

The winning chance for 1,000x on plinko is 0.0015% = 1 in 150,000
I have no ideas where the 32,000 comes from but no matter how much is the number, it is not math so there is no fixed number when you will hit that 1,000x
It is pure luck and you may hit even in your first bet or you may not even hit it after 150,000 bets.
I have experienced in hitting this 1,000x twice in less than 5,000 bets with the same seed and I also have experienced not hitting it after 20k bets.

It's actually 0.0015% for a specific side so it would be 0.003% to just hit 1000x in general. That's where the 1 in ~32,000 comes from just an approximate. So after billions of bets you expect that 1000x to come on average once every ~32k bets, of course because of variance over your short gambling run you can't expect this.

The precise amount is 1/0.00003 = 1 in 33,333.33 bets but ~32k sounds better.

Also 0.0015% is not 1 in 150,000 but 1 in 66,666 :p

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 01, 2021, 08:12:09 AM

Question to the Stake "Plinko" experts out there?

People are saying you will hit the 1000x multiplier on Stake "Plinko" after more or less 32 000 bets, so if this is true.. does it mean that you can bet 31 999 bets at say $0.10 and then switch to $10 per bet and then win the 1000x ....surely it cannot be that easy?

I for one do not believe that Stake is counting all the individual bets to see when you are due for a "Plinko" win.... if it was, then the Provably fair (Client Seed + Server Seed) will not count for shit. Roll Eyes

Anyone tried this before?

The winning chance for 1,000x on plinko is 0.0015% = 1 in ~~150,000~~
I have no ideas where the 32,000 comes from but no matter how much is the number, it is not math so there is no fixed number when you will hit that 1,000x
It is pure luck and you may hit even in your first bet or you may not even hit it after 150,000 bets.
I have experienced in hitting this 1,000x twice in less than 5,000 bets with the same seed and I also have experienced not hitting it after 20k bets.

Edit:
@EliteCrash: Thanks for the info and the correction

I'm really bad in math Grin

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Question to the Stake "Plinko" experts out there?

People are saying you will hit the 1000x multiplier on Stake "Plinko" after more or less 32 000 bets, so if this is true.. does it mean that you can bet 31 999 bets at say $0.10 and then switch to $10 per bet and then win the 1000x ....surely it cannot be that easy?

I for one do not believe that Stake is counting all the individual bets to see when you are due for a "Plinko" win.... if it was, then the Provably fair (Client Seed + Server Seed) will not count for shit. Roll Eyes

Anyone tried this before?

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Quote from: tokyohd on August 31, 2021, 04:23:05 PM

Quote from: slaman29 on August 31, 2021, 02:09:15 AM

Look, every sportsbook limits players individually, and sometimes it's even just their software department or odds department. You take it up with support and see what they can do for you, or you move books. It's always going to happen to you at some point though.

Well there must be a reason odds providers kr software needs some kind of algorithm to follow to make a decision to limit a player or not.
One of the algorithm is if the player in long term a winner ahbe the player himself does t know he is a winner for a reason he might be a winner in long term in sport but he blow his winnings or part of his bank in casino games.
Sports and casino games has different providers .
Odds or sports betting providers they offer something to the bookies called risk management it might include algorithms to limit winning players.

That's how a business in the sportsbook/casino sector works, buddy, welcome to commercial gambling. It's to protect the bankroll from sudden and unexpected losses long term, and that's not just good for the casino, but good for other players who fall in the average/regular algo counts like me and you I guess:)

Risk management, exactly as you say.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 31, 2021, 12:48:53 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on August 30, 2021, 06:09:29 AM

-snip-

I don't know this.

In this case! I believe the option came from the provider and was not requested by the casino itself. I have have some experience providers like "Pragmatic/PlayNGo" about pegged currency we're using for the bet with mBTC and is really high the lowest is 2$. I suggest the casino to change that, and they responded will contact to the provider to change the main currency.

The option comes from the provider indeed as it is part of the game but I think the casino can make a request to the provider to add more currencies in the option. If there is no requests, I believe the only available currencies will be USD/EUR only as it is the most used currencies in online gambling.

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Quote from: slaman29 on August 31, 2021, 02:09:15 AM

Look, every sportsbook limits players individually, and sometimes it's even just their software department or odds department. You take it up with support and see what they can do for you, or you move books. It's always going to happen to you at some point though.

Well there must be a reason odds providers kr software needs some kind of algorithm to follow to make a decision to limit a player or not.
One of the algorithm is if the player in long term a winner ahbe the player himself does t know he is a winner for a reason he might be a winner in long term in sport but he blow his winnings or part of his bank in casino games.
Sports and casino games has different providers .
Odds or sports betting providers they offer something to the bookies called risk management it might include algorithms to limit winning players.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 31, 2021, 01:21:02 PM

They might claim that they are using their own money, but I seriously doubt it and you can clearly see when they splash money and make huge bets... that it is not their own money. Some are not even upset when they lose that money, because it is not their own. Roll Eyes

Huge amount that they've lost in their gambling activities but they are not that care upon, seriously those are just claimers which are not really playing using their own money. Roll Eyes

As even you are just using a small amount of money, you are still affected by your losses, that's how things work when playing.

Just a quick and closer look with those people/streamers you'll be able to determine with your own which is which who, really
Playing using their money and which is not. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: KennyXBTC on August 30, 2021, 03:12:15 AM

actually from the current youtube/twitch scene .. which streamer are sponsored by Stake ?

almost every streamer i watched they claimed they playing with their own money

It is actually not that difficult to determine that.. just look at Eddie's Giveaway every Saturday and you will see who they are, because when their names are drawn.. they have to forfeit the win. Eddie and his team decided that paid Streamers are not eligible for the Giveaways. (Because they do not use their own money to gamble and to qualify for those tickets)

They might claim that they are using their own money, but I seriously doubt it and you can clearly see when they splash money and make huge bets... that it is not their own money. Some are not even upset when they lose that money, because it is not their own. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 30, 2021, 06:09:29 AM

-snip-

I don't know this.

In this case! I believe the option came from the provider and was not requested by the casino itself. I have have some experience providers like "Pragmatic/PlayNGo" about pegged currency we're using for the bet with mBTC and is really high the lowest is 2$. I suggest the casino to change that, and they responded will contact to the provider to change the main currency.

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I really meant 0.1 mbtc.....and no I didn't win......I stayed right around break even all the time of my account

Limits are fine, but at least let people stake 5 mbtc or so....this is just teasing customers.
My VIP manager said its totally out of Stake's control but I find it crazy that Stake just totally give the control of their sportsbook to this external party. Afterall its still THEIR sportsbook!

I heard their contract with this shitty odds provider ends in December this year.....please Stake be wise and quit this odds provider and move to a more serious one!

I think it is a bit about the limit on games as well, on one hand you could have a small game that nobody cares about that you can't gamble too much, and on the other hand you have a lot of people who wager a ton on a superbly known premier league game as well. Of course, it is still obvious that sometimes we get blocked, we are not given anything, I couldn't gamble on the finals of the NBA at one point, no idea why that happens but that just happens sometimes.

You just gotta keep on gambling with the max given to you and it starts to go back up again and again eventually, and then one day it will be blocked low once again and then you will need to gamble and this cycle continues for a very long time. So long story short it is obvious that it is not a great deal, but at the same time I have to say it is stake, they always do these kinds of things and we like them for who they are, even with downs and ups.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 30, 2021, 04:01:24 AM

If IDR currency is accepted then we can play with under 0.2$ on some popular slot ~XD.

IDR 200 is ~0.014 USD
IDR 20,000 (for bonus buy) is ~1.4 USD
The definition of dirt cheap Grin

Quote from: Bitinity on August 30, 2021, 06:09:29 AM

I just checked and I can play yggdrasil and hacksaw games with IDR but the minimum bet remains the same (equivalent to usd).

Wah, that's not the IDR that we know. IDR should be cheap Cheesy

$0.2 may be equal to IDR 200 if we look at the purchasing power of both nations (not the nominal one). If the minimum bet is the same (equivalent to USD), it doesn't feel like IDR betting Grin

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Look, every sportsbook limits players individually, and sometimes it's even just their software department or odds department. You take it up with support and see what they can do for you, or you move books. It's always going to happen to you at some point though.

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Stake, sorry to say but your sportsbook has turned to absolute SHIT! Every bet is getting rejected cause of "max stake exceeded"

Like what tokyo mentioned the most common reason why sportsbooks put limits is because you're in profit compared to most gamblers. You could ask the support to provide a profit record of your account so you could confirm it. Other stake players have been limited before and I think there's no way around it.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Stake, sorry to say but your sportsbook has turned to absolute SHIT! Every bet is getting rejected cause of "max stake exceeded"
Even when I try to bet 0.1 mbtc!!!! My VIP manager told she could not do anything about it and that these limits are totally in control of the odds provider only. You really need to switch odds providers man, this is not funny anymore.

What ? So stake does limit players if they are too good or if they win ?
You mean 0.1btc or 0.1mbtc? If latter that's too low
Maybe you win a lot ?

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Twitch regs were way looser back in the years before amazon but at some point it was almost totally banned as I remember. So what is possible now is quite light touch, I think at one point you were allowed the idea of gambling on your stream for 30 minutes only per day and so on.
Theres a good chance it wasn't anyone in particular gunning for the stream, at the moment its a popular crusade topic that gambling should not be in the visible spectrum of mainstream which is nonsense. Far better to teach people good money management when the ever present dangers of over spending in multiple categories always remains, credit cards overdrafts and all sorts are far more normalized and dangerous imo.
I discussed this with someone who is a big fan of a top streamer whose keen of eliminate gambling as a stream type, I was just putting the basic point that alot of modern games drop loot cases which are very much a type of gambling and yet its pointed at children and mislabeled, way more dangerous but people dont see this blind spot is way worse then a correctly displayed gambling stream, video etc.

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