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Quote from: Maasdamer on April 19, 2021, 11:02:18 PM

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Another provably fair stake original, limbo.

Its not about the money as I obviously did almost bet nothing, just wanted to find out if this is a fair game.
Those numbers/results don't add up here.
Target multiplier 200x, win chance 0.495% . So at every 210 spins or something there should be a win.

Result, 1181 spins, 2 wins. Thats a win ratio of 0.1693% .Almost 3 times smaller than should it should be.

https://imgur.com/a/4r5EDkj

By the way those 2 wins came within 3 spins. First 600 spins no win, then 2 wins and next 578 spins no win.

Very fair numbers here yet again.

They call this "not getting lucky". Really, this is a totally expected possible outcome. And because the game is provably fair, you can check for yourself to see if the game is fair or not. Your losing sessions have nothing to do with this.

Yes I agree the screenshot cannot prove whether it is fair or not but I know Limbo is a high-risk game because it offers a multiplier x1,000,000 even the highest multiplier of any game, right? I just tried it the same way, Wins : 2 Losses :351 https://imgur.com/XQizZG8 So the conclusion is about luck

LOL you did 800 spins less then me u clown.
And I did not go for max multiplier, only for 200x with a 0,5% chance.

And yes, orginals plinko is the exact same rippoff. All stake originals are rigged as fuck. Thats why even this guy in the stream on Saturdays doesn't play them, even if he uses "fake money". Keep dreaming about fairness on this site/these site games .

If you think the outcome of the bet was manipulated by stake all you need to do is post the bet id and server/player seed + nonce and they won't get away with it.

If you just post a losing graph that proves nothing you'll only look like another riggy crying about losing.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 09:33:05 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 19, 2021, 09:15:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Another provably fair stake original, limbo.

Its not about the money as I obviously did almost bet nothing, just wanted to find out if this is a fair game.
Those numbers/results don't add up here.
Target multiplier 200x, win chance 0.495% . So at every 210 spins or something there should be a win.

Result, 1181 spins, 2 wins. Thats a win ratio of 0.1693% .Almost 3 times smaller than should it should be.

https://imgur.com/a/4r5EDkj

By the way those 2 wins came within 3 spins. First 600 spins no win, then 2 wins and next 578 spins no win.

Very fair numbers here yet again.

They call this "not getting lucky". Really, this is a totally expected possible outcome. And because the game is provably fair, you can check for yourself to see if the game is fair or not. Your losing sessions have nothing to do with this.

Yes I agree the screenshot cannot prove whether it is fair or not but I know Limbo is a high-risk game because it offers a multiplier x1,000,000 even the highest multiplier of any game, right? I just tried it the same way, Wins : 2 Losses :351 https://imgur.com/XQizZG8 So the conclusion is about luck

LOL you did 800 spins less then me u clown.
And I did not go for max multiplier, only for 200x with a 0,5% chance.

And yes, orginals plinko is the exact same rippoff. All stake originals are rigged as fuck. Thats why even this guy in the stream on Saturdays doesn't play them, even if he uses "fake money". Keep dreaming about fairness on this site/these site games .

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 09:33:05 PM

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They call this "not getting lucky". Really, this is a totally expected possible outcome. And because the game is provably fair, you can check for yourself to see if the game is fair or not. Your losing sessions have nothing to do with this.

Yes I agree the screenshot cannot prove whether it is fair or not but I know Limbo is a high-risk game because it offers a multiplier x1,000,000 even the highest multiplier of any game, right? I just tried it the same way, Wins : 2 Losses :351 https://imgur.com/XQizZG8 So the conclusion is about luck

AFAIK it is not the right way to prove the fairness of the game. I'm not really sure why Maadamer tries to prove the fairness by using such winning ratio. It does not make senses when he said there should be a win of 200x for every 210 spins/bet. Previously he tried with plinko and now he try limbo. I'm curious what is his main purpose of this, if he wants to check the fairness then he should use the provably fair system.
Anyway, limbo max multiplier is not the highest one. Mines has more than 5million max multiplier and Slide has more than 4billion max multiplier.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 19, 2021, 09:15:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Another provably fair stake original, limbo.

Its not about the money as I obviously did almost bet nothing, just wanted to find out if this is a fair game.
Those numbers/results don't add up here.
Target multiplier 200x, win chance 0.495% . So at every 210 spins or something there should be a win.

Result, 1181 spins, 2 wins. Thats a win ratio of 0.1693% .Almost 3 times smaller than should it should be.

https://imgur.com/a/4r5EDkj

By the way those 2 wins came within 3 spins. First 600 spins no win, then 2 wins and next 578 spins no win.

Very fair numbers here yet again.

They call this "not getting lucky". Really, this is a totally expected possible outcome. And because the game is provably fair, you can check for yourself to see if the game is fair or not. Your losing sessions have nothing to do with this.

Yes I agree the screenshot cannot prove whether it is fair or not but I know Limbo is a high-risk game because it offers a multiplier x1,000,000 even the highest multiplier of any game, right? I just tried it the same way, Wins : 2 Losses :351 https://imgur.com/XQizZG8 So the conclusion is about luck

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Another provably fair stake original, limbo.

Its not about the money as I obviously did almost bet nothing, just wanted to find out if this is a fair game.
Those numbers/results don't add up here.
Target multiplier 200x, win chance 0.495% . So at every 210 spins or something there should be a win.

Result, 1181 spins, 2 wins. Thats a win ratio of 0.1693% .Almost 3 times smaller than should it should be.

https://imgur.com/a/4r5EDkj

By the way those 2 wins came within 3 spins. First 600 spins no win, then 2 wins and next 578 spins no win.

Very fair numbers here yet again.

They call this "not getting lucky". Really, this is a totally expected possible outcome. And because the game is provably fair, you can check for yourself to see if the game is fair or not. Your losing sessions have nothing to do with this.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Another provably fair stake original, limbo.

Its not about the money as I obviously did almost bet nothing, just wanted to find out if this is a fair game.
Those numbers/results don't add up here.
Target multiplier 200x, win chance 0.495% . So at every 210 spins or something there should be a win.

Result, 1181 spins, 2 wins. Thats a win ratio of 0.1693% .Almost 3 times smaller than should it should be.

https://imgur.com/a/4r5EDkj

By the way those 2 wins came within 3 spins. First 600 spins no win, then 2 wins and next 578 spins no win.

Very fair numbers here yet again.

You have only done 1,181 bets. What you have seen is just expected variance on the game; go through 10 million+ bets then post the stats that would provide a better picture.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 03:44:33 PM

That's also the reason I didn't focus on the tournament this time Cheesy

It's not that hard to make a $ 5000 wager you just have to find a strategy even with just $100 you can make wager over $5000, but I didn't do it that way because I only bet on sports.

I wagged a couple of heavy favorites thinking they were easy picks and ended up busting good amounts, so if the strategy revolves around making a bet to increase the wager amount it does have its risk and never place bets on matches you have no clue even if they are heavy favorites you will bust and i have busted enough with that strategy. If there is is another else i would like to hear Wink

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They are multiple times richer then me, this is not new news to me but I've done multiple bets previously on different account on different sites and it came in useful because you can hedge against yourself. Also years ago Ive used it to transfer money, its especially relevant in these difficult times that because of the fees to move money manually you may find arbitrage is a cheaper way to realize profits in just one account. In my case it was all separate companies so fine as far as I know, I dont know it causes a problem in any situation but obviously best to check. Theres most often a spread cost to that, its not a free idea really just 'in extremis'
Funny thing is I was reading about a blockchain recently that cleverly avoids transfer costs by utilizing purposeful burn proof as an alternative to proof of work, literally they put this into a protocol as a more efficient process which is not something I've read of before in an automated way, anyhow crypto is always interesting to be part of

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Quote from: seleme on April 19, 2021, 04:59:27 PM

Yeah, he is the one who has 2 more accounts specially created for the million-dollar race

Just check the race page and there is more than 1 ClassyBeef, I have no idea if the alt account is allowed or not but it is obvious that the Staff let him do so. Good luck all hunters on race

There is no rules on stake to not allow their user to create multiple accounts on their ToS. But it stated Stake has the right, anytime they want, to ask KYC if needed. So as long as you didn't cheat or doing something illegal with your main account or alt acc, you should be fine

Best not to use multiple account since its kinda suspicious activity, since why would a user create to acccount while he can play on 1 he created? For creating two and makes it active well a sort of abuse is happening so expect that stake or other casino will doubt and verify your account for that case. So I suggest better stick to 1 account only to avoid any problem.

Well you got a point. But out of there, there are lot of poeple who want to win more than 1 account, especially stake still running a wager contest now. They want to maximize their profit by wager on other account as well, but as long as not cheating, i think it's allowed on stake. If they lose their money on other account, it would give stake profit, don't you think so?

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Quote from: ultrloa on April 19, 2021, 06:02:13 PM

Best not to use multiple account since its kinda suspicious activity, since why would a user create to acccount while he can play on 1 he created? For creating two and makes it active well a sort of abuse is happening so expect that stake or other casino will doubt and verify your account for that case. So I suggest better stick to 1 account only to avoid any problem.

Creating multiple accounts isn't always an issue to be honest. You should be fine as long as you inform their customer care service and proceed as long as they have no issues.

Multiple accounts are especially useful when your family members or friends are accessing the site through the same wifi network or broadband connection.

Crypto gambling sites need to come up with Netflix style profile system where multiple people can access the same account. This could lead to a drop in multiple accounts basically.

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Quote from: seleme on April 19, 2021, 04:59:27 PM

Yeah, he is the one who has 2 more accounts specially created for the million-dollar race

Just check the race page and there is more than 1 ClassyBeef, I have no idea if the alt account is allowed or not but it is obvious that the Staff let him do so. Good luck all hunters on race

It's a streamer group, they've been using the two accounts for a long time now.

And, unless they manage to take first and another top prize, nobody at the top of the leaderboard is benefiting from the using multiple accounts in the race, despite everyone complaining about it. Just do the math.

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Quote from: numanoid on April 19, 2021, 05:52:35 PM

Quote from: seleme on April 19, 2021, 04:59:27 PM

Yeah, he is the one who has 2 more accounts specially created for the million-dollar race

Just check the race page and there is more than 1 ClassyBeef, I have no idea if the alt account is allowed or not but it is obvious that the Staff let him do so. Good luck all hunters on race

There is no rules on stake to not allow their user to create multiple accounts on their ToS. But it stated Stake has the right, anytime they want, to ask KYC if needed. So as long as you didn't cheat or doing something illegal with your main account or alt acc, you should be fine

Best not to use multiple account since its kinda suspicious activity, since why would a user create to acccount while he can play on 1 he created? For creating two and makes it active well a sort of abuse is happening so expect that stake or other casino will doubt and verify your account for that case. So I suggest better stick to 1 account only to avoid any problem.

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Quote from: seleme on April 19, 2021, 04:59:27 PM

Yeah, he is the one who has 2 more accounts specially created for the million-dollar race

Just check the race page and there is more than 1 ClassyBeef, I have no idea if the alt account is allowed or not but it is obvious that the Staff let him do so. Good luck all hunters on race

There is no rules on stake to not allow their user to create multiple accounts on their ToS. But it stated Stake has the right, anytime they want, to ask KYC if needed. So as long as you didn't cheat or doing something illegal with your main account or alt acc, you should be fine

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Quote from: seleme on April 19, 2021, 04:59:27 PM

with different dice scripts I can wager around $200-$350 per dollar

Best you can average with a 1% house edge is $100 per $1.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on April 19, 2021, 04:42:53 PM

Quote from: Symphonized on April 19, 2021, 04:15:50 PM

Not a bad day's work @ClassyBeef

It is a big day for him. Congrats @ClassyBeef. Stake is so popular to give big wins, and this is an example. During the start of the million dollar wagering contest he was there in the top list. He's one of the highrollers of Stake. Winning such a big amount is a true surprise, but what he had placed as bet value is simply big and an impossible fund for a common gambler.

Very nice hit, HackSaw game provider has upper limit of $250 per spin Afaik.
Yeah, he is the one who has 2 more accounts specially created for the million-dollar race

Just check the race page and there is more than 1 ClassyBeef, I have no idea if the alt account is allowed or not but it is obvious that the Staff let him do so. Good luck all hunters on race

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 03:20:08 PM

<<>>
4001-5000: $10

If you don't target the prize that's ok do it in the best way Wink

What? Just $10 for those coming in 4000-5000 winners? I'm out. It is not worth it to wager thousands of dollars for just $10, if I could place myself on top may be then it is worth for me hehe. I am not discouraging any player here because players will play no matter what I say, so I wish them all good luck who are running behind prizes. Wink

@BitcoinHunt3r, I salute you that you have wagered 5k but still your rank is over 11k. I think I will not be able to wager even $2k during this whole month. Grin

That's also the reason I didn't focus on the tournament this time Cheesy

It's not that hard to make a $ 5000 wager you just have to find a strategy even with just $100 you can make wager over $5000, but I didn't do it that way because I only bet on sports.

It is just a 50x wager of the base amount, with different dice scripts I can wager around $200-$350 per dollar. Plinko low 8 pins is better for low wager amounts, you can use $0.5 per bet if the balance is below $100.

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Quote from: Symphonized on April 19, 2021, 04:15:50 PM

Not a bad day's work @ClassyBeef

It is a big day for him. Congrats @ClassyBeef. Stake is so popular to give big wins, and this is an example. During the start of the million dollar wagering contest he was there in the top list. He's one of the highrollers of Stake. Winning such a big amount is a true surprise, but what he had placed as bet value is simply big and an impossible fund for a common gambler.

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Not a bad day's work @ClassyBeef

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Quote from: 2double0 on April 19, 2021, 03:37:05 PM

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 03:20:08 PM

<<>>
4001-5000: $10

If you don't target the prize that's ok do it in the best way Wink

What? Just $10 for those coming in 4000-5000 winners? I'm out. It is not worth it to wager thousands of dollars for just $10, if I could place myself on top may be then it is worth for me hehe. I am not discouraging any player here because players will play no matter what I say, so I wish them all good luck who are running behind prizes. Wink

@BitcoinHunt3r, I salute you that you have wagered 5k but still your rank is over 11k. I think I will not be able to wager even $2k during this whole month. Grin

That's also the reason I didn't focus on the tournament this time Cheesy

It's not that hard to make a $ 5000 wager you just have to find a strategy even with just $100 you can make wager over $5000, but I didn't do it that way because I only bet on sports.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 03:20:08 PM

<<>>
4001-5000: $10

If you don't target the prize that's ok do it in the best way Wink

What? Just $10 for those coming in 4000-5000 winners? I'm out. It is not worth it to wager thousands of dollars for just $10, if I could place myself on top may be then it is worth for me hehe. I am not discouraging any player here because players will play no matter what I say, so I wish them all good luck who are running behind prizes. Wink

@BitcoinHunt3r, I salute you that you have wagered 5k but still your rank is over 11k. I think I will not be able to wager even $2k during this whole month. Grin

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Quote from: 2double0 on April 19, 2021, 02:45:54 PM

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 19, 2021, 01:20:41 PM

I don't plan to compete with them not even for TOP 5000 because I know my limits Cheesy

I just watched what games they played also observe what strategies are used
If you want to watch it you can check it out on Twitch there are 3 streamers who took part in the contest LOOPOO top 10, classybeef top 11 & 12 , ProdigyDDK top 22

As I can only see top 10 players, may I know what is the current wager done by the 5000th winner? I am also trying to gamble slowly and wager something huge this time but due to my limited bankroll, it is not possible for me to go big on my bets as not all can be winning bets. I am still trying to cautiously play and wager at least to come in the last 4000-5000 winners. Grin

My total wager was $ 4,950 and was ranked 11000+ Cheesy

Are you planning on hunting prizes? I thought it was useless to hunt the top 5000
just look at this prize table, this is what you will get according to your rank.

501-1000: $60
1001-2000: $30
2001-3000: $20
3001-4000: $15
4001-5000: $10

If you don't target the prize that's ok do it in the best way Wink

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