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legendary
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It really annoys me to have to read boring complaints about high fees: it is what it is, they are known and public, people may or may not agree with them but they are there for a reason. There are bitcoin services (exchanges, other casinos...) that have much higher fees than the ones I see here, so what is the matter really?
A dynamic fee mechanism would be beneficial where users would be able to choose how much to pay to have a slower or faster confirmation rate but it does not look in the plan, so let's move on.

Perhaps Stake need to consider to implement it in the near future although it does not give any guarantee that complains will not come. I still see some people complaining about withdrawal fee even though they are playing on a site with dynamic fee where they can choose the priority level of the fee. Both fixed fee and dynamic fee has its own advantage and disadvantage. Here, players needs to understand and check the system first and check how much is the latest fee on the site and on the average fee on the mempool. A site wont be able to give what is the best for all players because every player has their own preferences. As players, we need to know which coin and which fee is more suitable for us. Even if there is a sudden huge increase of the fee of bitcoin/eth when we play with btc/eth, there is other way to avoid it on Stake. That's by using dinabot to exchange our bitcoin to other coins or simply do not use btc/eth for gambling if we want to avoid high fee.
legendary
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We are not talking about "yesterday" or "today" but the time I wanted to make my withdrawal. A fast fee at that time was below 4$.
When I the finally made the withdrawal an "urgent" fee was around 0.0002btc, I paid the regular 0.0003 and what did they send it with? 0.0001. So I paid 3 times the fee they actually used. By the times they sent it this fee was even too low and I had 7000 transactions above me and had to wait several blocks to get confirmed.
I think the answer was already given by Stunna, they already gave too much of incentives for their customers with withdrawal fee when it was too high but to avoid people using their account as a regular wallet instead of gambling with such incentives they implement such hike in the fee which is temporary I guess. So now the decision is your because they made their decision if you still don't like their fee structure then choose something else which falls under your category.
Casinos usually charge way more than required "just to be sure" and that does bring in a bit of a profit for them as well that is not a lie. I am not going to defend what stake did or how they handled the situation because I am not affiliated with them, however I could say a lot of places do this, and not just casinos but even exchanges do this for some reason, I think its more about these places saying "might as well charge a lot more, if it goes up we won't lose money and if it stays the same we earn money" type of logic and as long as all other websites keep doing it, there is no reason to change it.

The moment some places start using LN or ask for cheap amounts, it is going to change some things and its going to ruffle up some feathers in the crypto business world but until that happens we can't blame stake for doing something (albeit not right) that everywhere else does as well unfortunately.
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It really annoys me to have to read boring complaints about high fees: it is what it is, they are known and public, people may or may not agree with them but they are there for a reason. There are bitcoin services (exchanges, other casinos...) that have much higher fees than the ones I see here, so what is the matter really?
A dynamic fee mechanism would be beneficial where users would be able to choose how much to pay to have a slower or faster confirmation rate but it does not look in the plan, so let's move on.
Many people will always complain about high fees in the crypto world(Valid Criticism) and that will never change especially due to the rising values of BTC, ETH etc over time which is why the sites themselves need to adapt accordingly in order to maintain a constant fee.

Some sites execute this properly while some don't. I observed that Stake executes this properly which is a plus point.
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We are not talking about "yesterday" or "today" but the time I wanted to make my withdrawal.

From Feb 2nd:

the fee right now would be way less than 10$.

'Your withdrawal will have 0.00030000 subtracted from your remaining balance to cover the fee required to process the transaction."

Thats 10$ withdrawal fee, are you crazy?

At the moment 25sat/b would be way enough. This site really is robbing its players. How often do you want to raise the withdrawal fee?

Which is why I posted on Feb 3:

The average fee yesterday in USD was $14.26

'Yesterday' on Feb 3 is Feb 2, the same day you said 'the fee right now would be way less than 10$'

Sorry if that wasn't clear.


You do know that the mempool looks like this over 24 hours, right?

https://imgur.com/a/N4QGuZ8

So what matters was my exact time, not the average fee of the day.
legendary
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It really annoys me to have to read boring complaints about high fees: it is what it is, they are known and public, people may or may not agree with them but they are there for a reason. There are bitcoin services (exchanges, other casinos...) that have much higher fees than the ones I see here, so what is the matter really?
A dynamic fee mechanism would be beneficial where users would be able to choose how much to pay to have a slower or faster confirmation rate but it does not look in the plan, so let's move on.
legendary
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He just want to be a J**rk

That guy just made complicated himself with fee bitcoin, he doesn't want to make simple BETTING WITH ALTCOIN ON CHEAP FEE. Stake have the various option can use for the transaction like XRP, TRX, DOGE and other coins.

Blaming because 30K satoshi fee, man I believe that guys were also blamed on the exchange because they us fee on bitcoin with 0.002, 0.001, 0.0005 BTC. Just like his negatif feedback, better just ignore him that's it.

He was here for complain.
legendary
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The fee they're charging is in line with a reasonable network fee if you hope to have it confirmed next block.  

But if you're making small deposits or withdraws with Bitcoin, you're doing it wrong.  I'd recommend paying the 2 or 3% fee to exchange with dinabot for trx or ltc and then withdraw for about 5 cents and stick with anything but bitcoin going forward.
We can't just tell people "if you do not want to pay 10 bucks you should go with some other coin" like they are the wrong ones. We are talking about stake here, first of all stake could pay everyone's fee and would still be getting a ton of customers but leaving that aside, I believe for someone who has low amounts of money 10 bucks is huge and they may want to pay less, at that point we all know stake collects a lot of payments together and sends them all together which makes it cheaper so at the end of the day stake could offer 5 bucks and even less for transactions.

So, to tell the customer to use another coin like it is their fault that stake charges 10 bucks is not really a nice move, it is really victim shaming and you should be ashamed of it. I say stake could basically drop their charge 50% and combine it and send all transactions combined whenever it reaches to a point, customers can wait 1-2 hours that is fine.

I don't work for stake but see no issue with explaining how to avoid bitcoins ridiculous fees.  I almost feel obligated to  explain it to someone making small btc transactions with any frequency.
legendary
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Today I have played with good amount of deposit at stake after few months. Wagerd 2.81 btc and got 79th position in daily race. Compared to wager amount the prize isn't worth anything. With this wager anyone could easily have the position in top 10 at other casino daily race. All the big whale plays at stake now. Seems like small players don't have the chance to stay in top 100 of daily race anymore.  BTW, I have lost enough amount in deposit today. Here is one of my session stats. Lost more amount in another session


Above image shows that you lost $2,400 for $51,287 wagered amount. This makes me wonder what games did you play and how did you play it. I think if your main purpose is for the race and you play games with 1% HE or less then you should have not lost that much. Did you play with martingale on that session? If so, I do not think it is a good idea to do martingale if the main purpose is for the Race. I think betting flat amount on 1% HE games will give you better result, btw sorry for your lose.

With $51k wagered, he would lose around $500, betting flat on 1% HE games, in one of the best case scenarios. And the prize, 0.00015 BTC, is less than $6 now. Wagering contests are no longer something you can hope to make money with. They are for high rollers, who may even win something during their betting session, and in addition to that receive a prize as a bonus.

But what I said above isn't set in stone, of course. Luck is a big factor here. One can win $1k or $2k right away, and quit the contest, cos the prize is good enough already.
sr. member
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Just saw another interesting sports promotion for the Australian Open on Stake: "Aces Special".

Basically you get 1$ per ace for men and 2$ per ace for women; condition is that your selection needs to win the match. Minimum bet is quite high (25$) and the promotion is only valid on a couple of matches, but still interesting  Wink.
All details here: https://promotions.stake.com/aus-open-aces/

Not gonna lie, site is great, I love playing on it. No complaints about the games.

But seriously I cannot fucking stand the support/mods, they ruin the experience so fucking much. Almost makes me want to delete my account and never play again. Steve and Eddie are fine, but holy shit, the fucking Mebit staff. The most incompetent fuckers I've ever met in my life except for Uros.
I partially agree with you. Have faced several issues with some of their mods myself in the chat though I never got muted or anything, but they did leave a bad impression. I actually considered switching sites at one point since some of their mods couldn't resolve my queries properly.

However, this happened sometime back. Their customer service has improved since then since majority of my recent queries were resolved quickly.

Never had any issues on chat, but I am also not really active on there. All support questions I had were quickly resolved.
legendary
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I partially agree with you. Have faced several issues with some of their mods myself in the chat though I never got muted or anything, but they did leave a bad impression. I actually considered switching sites at one point since some of their mods couldn't resolve my queries properly.

However, this happened sometime back. Their customer service has improved since then since majority of my recent queries were resolved quickly.
For me it's the complete opposite I always think the mods are pretty chill and nice to hangout with on chat. If there's an issue they'll fix it right away and I sometimes see others get muted but they usually get a warning or two before getting the hammer. I guess the other chat rooms give off a different vibe, I always lurk on the sports chat most of the time rather than the english/main chat.
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Not gonna lie, site is great, I love playing on it. No complaints about the games.

But seriously I cannot fucking stand the support/mods, they ruin the experience so fucking much. Almost makes me want to delete my account and never play again. Steve and Eddie are fine, but holy shit, the fucking Mebit staff. The most incompetent fuckers I've ever met in my life except for Uros.
I partially agree with you. Have faced several issues with some of their mods myself in the chat though I never got muted or anything, but they did leave a bad impression. I actually considered switching sites at one point since some of their mods couldn't resolve my queries properly.

However, this happened sometime back. Their customer service has improved since then since majority of my recent queries were resolved quickly.
legendary
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The fee they're charging is in line with a reasonable network fee if you hope to have it confirmed next block.  

But if you're making small deposits or withdraws with Bitcoin, you're doing it wrong.  I'd recommend paying the 2 or 3% fee to exchange with dinabot for trx or ltc and then withdraw for about 5 cents and stick with anything but bitcoin going forward.
We can't just tell people "if you do not want to pay 10 bucks you should go with some other coin" like they are the wrong ones. We are talking about stake here, first of all stake could pay everyone's fee and would still be getting a ton of customers but leaving that aside, I believe for someone who has low amounts of money 10 bucks is huge and they may want to pay less, at that point we all know stake collects a lot of payments together and sends them all together which makes it cheaper so at the end of the day stake could offer 5 bucks and even less for transactions.

So, to tell the customer to use another coin like it is their fault that stake charges 10 bucks is not really a nice move, it is really victim shaming and you should be ashamed of it. I say stake could basically drop their charge 50% and combine it and send all transactions combined whenever it reaches to a point, customers can wait 1-2 hours that is fine.
sr. member
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We are not talking about "yesterday" or "today" but the time I wanted to make my withdrawal. A fast fee at that time was below 4$.
When I the finally made the withdrawal an "urgent" fee was around 0.0002btc, I paid the regular 0.0003 and what did they send it with? 0.0001. So I paid 3 times the fee they actually used. By the times they sent it this fee was even too low and I had 7000 transactions above me and had to wait several blocks to get confirmed.
I think the answer was already given by Stunna, they already gave too much of incentives for their customers with withdrawal fee when it was too high but to avoid people using their account as a regular wallet instead of gambling with such incentives they implement such hike in the fee which is temporary I guess. So now the decision is your because they made their decision if you still don't like their fee structure then choose something else which falls under your category.
legendary
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We are not talking about "yesterday" or "today" but the time I wanted to make my withdrawal.

From Feb 2nd:

the fee right now would be way less than 10$.

'Your withdrawal will have 0.00030000 subtracted from your remaining balance to cover the fee required to process the transaction."

Thats 10$ withdrawal fee, are you crazy?

At the moment 25sat/b would be way enough. This site really is robbing its players. How often do you want to raise the withdrawal fee?

Which is why I posted on Feb 3:

The average fee yesterday in USD was $14.26

'Yesterday' on Feb 3 is Feb 2, the same day you said 'the fee right now would be way less than 10$'

Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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Not gonna lie, site is great, I love playing on it. No complaints about the games.

But seriously I cannot fucking stand the support/mods, they ruin the experience so fucking much. Almost makes me want to delete my account and never play again. Steve and Eddie are fine, but holy shit, the fucking Mebit staff. The most incompetent fuckers I've ever met in my life except for Uros.

First you get predatory shit like Stake mod Rade dating a Filipino player in chat. I say something in chat about the UK's GDP per capita being larger than the Phillipines' (while explicitly stating I live in Singapore, not the UK), the girl gets offended, and boom my account instantly gets banned and I'm forced to KYC. Seriously the most disgusting senseless bias I've seen, and on top of all of that you can't even talk to a fucking person who understands you because at every level of that god damn support team there's barely anyone who understands English.

And then you get random shit like being muted for 2 days for a rule you didn't even know about, appealing the mute, and suddenly getting muted for 2 extra weeks because some retarded fucking Serbian is 'sure I knew about the rule because I'm an old player'. Like literally fuck off, I don't spend all day in the fucking chat room, I just play the game, I don't know every shitty rule, especially a brand new one that was implemented recently because the mods couldn't keep players from scamming and hacking each other.

Please don't get me wrong. I like your site.

Please, for the love of God, hire someone who speaks ENGLISH to moderate the ENGLISH chat. It would be fucking lovely. Being a part of Stake's community would actually become a tolerable experience.

Shoutout Eddie and Steve for being normal nice people instead of absolute braindead mongoloids. Shoutout Uros for escaping the hood. Rade belongs in prison. And whoever "AlphaStorm" is, fire that fucking illiterate loser.
legendary
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No the fee was not in line with the network fee, just as I explained. Below 0.0001 would have been enough to get it confirmed in the next block and I paid 3 times that.

Here's a quick overview on how btc tx fees work: https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000939883-Explaining-bitcoin-transaction-fees


The average fee yesterday in USD was $14.26
https://www.blockchain.com/charts/fees-usd-per-transaction

I checked a couple bitcoin fee calculators for segwit 2 input/2 output transactions with expectation of first confirmation within 3-4 blocks and as of right now $10 is on the low end.

estimatefee.com for example:



If you're still hung up on the 1.5 mbtc, just exchange them with Dinabot for TRX for a 2-3% fee (~$1.50) and then withdraw the TRX (3 cent fee).




legendary
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I do not know ANY of the providers, stakes' worst decision was to let the game building go and just hire from others, it never really made sense to me. I can't be bothered by it because it is just optional, they still have their own games that I play on and that is good enough for me, the only downside is that they are not adding any new games themselves, they are just dealing with others and add their games which is really zero to me, it means they didn't add any games.

The fact is that provably fair is not something on those games and only applies here on the original games is good enough reason for me to now gamble there. Why would I want to gamble on a third party provider? I am 100% in support of third party providers being here, because I am not forced to play them, but I want more games from stake themselves as well that are all provably fair.
Just one word that can explain everything: competitiveness.
To increase the number of users they need to attract them in some way. Many other casinos already have third-party games. The more providers of games, the more games, the more different the promos, etc.

We are always working on more stake originals games. Smiley


But please do not create a slot game similar to the Blue Samurai, afaik not many players play this game compared to the Scarab slot.
I have ever heard that Stake will have more than 10 original slots, will it come in the near future (in case what I heard is true)?
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legendary
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I do not know ANY of the providers, stakes' worst decision was to let the game building go and just hire from others, it never really made sense to me. I can't be bothered by it because it is just optional, they still have their own games that I play on and that is good enough for me, the only downside is that they are not adding any new games themselves, they are just dealing with others and add their games which is really zero to me, it means they didn't add any games.

The fact is that provably fair is not something on those games and only applies here on the original games is good enough reason for me to now gamble there. Why would I want to gamble on a third party provider? I am 100% in support of third party providers being here, because I am not forced to play them, but I want more games from stake themselves as well that are all provably fair.
Just one word that can explain everything: competitiveness.
To increase the number of users they need to attract them in some way. Many other casinos already have third-party games. The more providers of games, the more games, the more different the promos, etc.

If you look at the High Rollers on Stake, you will notice that they do not really play the third party games. Most of them are playing the Stake Original games like Dice / Keno and Plinko with good strategies. One of the other reasons why they play these games are the high RTP rate of the Stake original games. (None of the third party providers offer anywhere close to that)

So you learn from these High Rollers and you follow their strategies. Stake should create a lot more original games to retain these High Rollers and the huge wins from these VIP's will attract other gamblers.  Wink
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