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Quote from: Bitinity on February 17, 2024, 06:16:42 PM

It has been discussed too many times but there is still no clear formula to calculate the bonus because Stake is not informing about it publicly. What we know is the aspects that affect our bonus such as VIP rank, wager and lose/win. The lose/win seems to be one with biggest effect for the bonus because if you lose more = bigger bonus. About your case, we do not know how much you usually get for the monthly and how much you get this month. If you can share some more information such as your VIP level, wagering statistic and overall profit statistic, maybe we can know why you get more.

Yeah we're tired of discussing this one but there's no way to get the exact formula and so far we have only guessed how much we will get in each bonus. To be honest, recently the bonus I got was less than what I expected even though my gaming activities are different every month but the bonuses are almost the same. Since the update of the base bonus amount, some of my friends have not played actively I don't know if Stake is aware of this or they don't see the change in player activity.

By the way, last Saturday I was very lucky to be one of the winners in the Giveaways on the stake forum Cheesy

I get free balance even I don't watch live stream, did any of you get it too? I know to participate users must post Stake username and the right color, but this time I prove the right color does not have any impact because I just post a username and win, I don't know why they should post a username + color they even have to edit the post if they guess the wrong color lol.

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Quote from: bitbollo on February 17, 2024, 01:17:03 PM

I noticed a very strong difference between the weekly and monthly bonuses here on Stake.
Practically, the weekly one remains the same in any case... whereas this monthly one I saw has gone up a lot (maybe because I have placed some bets?!)
I don't remember if this has been discussed before, but is there any clarification on how they are calculated?

It has been discussed too many times but there is still no clear formula to calculate the bonus because Stake is not informing about it publicly. What we know is the aspects that affect our bonus such as VIP rank, wager and lose/win. The lose/win seems to be one with biggest effect for the bonus because if you lose more = bigger bonus. About your case, we do not know how much you usually get for the monthly and how much you get this month. If you can share some more information such as your VIP level, wagering statistic and overall profit statistic, maybe we can know why you get more.

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I noticed a very strong difference between the weekly and monthly bonuses here on Stake.
Practically, the weekly one remains the same in any case... whereas this monthly one I saw has gone up a lot (maybe because I have placed some bets?!)
I don't remember if this has been discussed before, but is there any clarification on how they are calculated?

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Quote from: Bitinity on February 17, 2024, 03:43:51 AM

I have no idea who is the owner of this estimator but the owner should have better formula to calculate the bonus estimation.

Looks like the owner of that website has the intention to gain referrals by showing a good figure as monthly bonus to those users who don't have an account on Stake. Maybe the owner used a wrong estimator intentionally to attract the users.

Quote from: ryzaadit on February 17, 2024, 05:13:38 AM

I got more compared to you because I was on the lost. I guess the rank is also the same right? you have rank (Platinum III) ? If yes then is make sense for both of us you got that number is because you on win section.

Yep, I'm also in Platinum III. This is the positive side of including lossback in the monthly bonus. The old bonus system was based on wager only with a decent fixed bonus for each rank. Although many of us were dissatisfied for the change of bonus system, but it is good for those users now who deal with losses.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 16, 2024, 12:12:49 PM

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You and me just have different around 10-20% the different only on lose section.

I got more compared to you because I was on the lost. I guess the rank is also the same right? you have rank (Platinum III) ? If yes then is make sense for both of us you got that number is because you on win section.

Meanwhile, my self is losing.

Bitinity

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 16, 2024, 12:12:49 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on February 16, 2024, 07:31:14 AM

The estimation from website for my monthly amount missed around 70%, the site estimation my monthly around 140$ and meanwhile the monthly amount are around 50$. I tough from my perspective at least around 70-80$ but seem like is wrong.

The 3rd party monthly bonus estimator of Stake is quite funny. It always gives the high hope to the users. $50 isn't bad at all. How much had you wagered in this month? I got $26 from the bonus with $17k+ wager. I'm up like $300 in this month. I was expecting less than $26 though.

The 3rd party estimator should be avoided as it will disappoint users who use it because it gives too big difference with the actual bonus we may get. Even if we put $1 on the wager column, we still get bigger monthly bonus estimation lol. I used this estimator and it gives me 4x bigger amount than the actual amount I received yesterday

. I have no idea who is the owner of this estimator but the owner should have better formula to calculate the bonus estimation.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 16, 2024, 07:31:14 AM

The estimation from website for my monthly amount missed around 70%, the site estimation my monthly around 140$ and meanwhile the monthly amount are around 50$. I tough from my perspective at least around 70-80$ but seem like is wrong.

The 3rd party monthly bonus estimator of Stake is quite funny. It always gives the high hope to the users. $50 isn't bad at all. How much had you wagered in this month? I got $26 from the bonus with $17k+ wager. I'm up like $300 in this month. I was expecting less than $26 though.

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Wake up and claim the bonus, I guess just missed one day (I tough on 14/15th) but we are on 16th 5:00 morning in my local time zone. The estimation from website for my monthly amount missed around 70%, the site estimation my monthly around 140$ and meanwhile the monthly amount are around 50$. I tough from my perspective at least around 70-80$ but seem like is wrong.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on February 16, 2024, 01:42:47 AM

The common believe is that Stake are increasing the RTP after money has been paid out in the form of bonusses, but I think that is false.

The slots from third party slot providers offer the casino 1 or 2 or 3 rtp options that they can choose from, depending on which slot it is... and the difference between them are small.. so even if they shift between them, changes will not even be noticeable to the player.

The original games are controlled by them, so they can adjust the rtp, but players will quickly pick up.. when there are periods where there are massive changes to the rtp and they will simply stop playing.

RTP is difficult to verify, because you need 1000s of bets (close to a million)... and the rtp can be adjusted, while you are testing.

I can not speak about their other in-house games, but their in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged!

Yes, to verify your experienced RTP, you need to place a huge number of bets, but not 1 million and also not 500,000 bets.

I for example made 181,000 bets and my experienced RTP is 95,5% while the advertised RTP is 99,5%!

This is proof that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged, because such a huge deviation after such a huge number of attempts is technically not possible based on the law of large numbers.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 15, 2024, 11:16:32 AM

Quote from: ryzaadit on February 15, 2024, 09:59:21 AM

I think we already discussed these, they're indeed sharing the bonus in (Friday) but on weekends they never share it because is weekly. I'm gonna see tomorrow 05:00 - 08:00 my local time, did you guys try to use (Monthly Bonus Calculation) website? I put my number around 12,000-14,000$ wagering, Platinum III and on (LOSE) section these months the estimation is around 140$+. Let's see how closest these number with reality.

Don't imagine to get around $140 with only $14k wager. You won't even receive $140 with $100k wager on the in-house games now (if you are in profit, or your loss is only a few hundred dollars). BTW, Eddie has released the monthly bonus for Primedice users today. So, we may expect the monthly bonus tomorrow on Stake. I hope Eddie hasn't planned to release the bonus on the special day of February month of this year (29th February) Cheesy

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I claimed monthly bonus today it was $11.6 for, $16k Wagering. i am still happy because i use this bonus money on live blackjack game and make this amount 2x and finally i withdraw $23.5. I am very happy for that today I had classes in university today but I didn't have enough money to go to university. It gave me an instant financial boost when I woke up in the morning to see such a bonus and was able to double and withdraw it by gambling. I gambled for fun but it helped me a lot during one of my emergencies.

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Quote from: Bitinity on February 15, 2024, 05:52:56 PM

Guys!! What you are waiting for has just been released https://playstake.info/bonus?code=febmonthlybonus8823jfbaskfi2 Claim it fast but dont lose it fast

If you get small amount like me, you can hold it first for a while and wait for tomorrow to claim the weekly bonus and get additional small amount to play. Most people say that anytime bonus is released, there will be like freezing time for most of the games which give us less chance to win than in normal time. I do not believe it though since my result is always random when I play with bonus. Grin

The common believe is that Stake are increasing the RTP after money has been paid out in the form of bonusses, but I think that is false.

The slots from third party slot providers offer the casino 1 or 2 or 3 rtp options that they can choose from, depending on which slot it is... and the difference between them are small.. so even if they shift between them, changes will not even be noticeable to the player.

The original games are controlled by them, so they can adjust the rtp, but players will quickly pick up.. when there are periods where there are massive changes to the rtp and they will simply stop playing.

RTP is difficult to verify, because you need 1000s of bets (close to a million)... and the rtp can be adjusted, while you are testing.

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Guys!! What you are waiting for has just been released https://playstake.info/bonus?code=febmonthlybonus8823jfbaskfi2 Claim it fast but dont lose it fast

If you get small amount like me, you can hold it first for a while and wait for tomorrow to claim the weekly bonus and get additional small amount to play. Most people say that anytime bonus is released, there will be like freezing time for most of the games which give us less chance to win than in normal time. I do not believe it though since my result is always random when I play with bonus. Grin

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 15, 2024, 11:16:32 AM

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Who knows right, sometimes in stake is always the opposite.

While you think your bonus weekly/monthly is low suddenly we receive more and while you think the bonus is high you get the opposite. That's why, a system bonus like stake is always a mystery.

Hey wait a second, I guess should hoping get less to lower my expectation and getting a high monthly amount bonus ~LOL.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on February 15, 2024, 10:10:12 AM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on February 15, 2024, 09:55:15 AM

Please answer my questions, instead of stating nonsense and giving false prophecies:

Quote from: BlackyJacky on February 13, 2024, 12:06:09 PM

If you are Bijan and Edward, would you compensate the 30,000 USD I unjustifiably lost at their provably rigged in-house Black Jack sysyem and move on or would you ignore me and risk that you will be held liable one day?

I mean, they generated a 2,6 billion USD Gross Gaming Revenue in 2022, why risk their multi billion USD profit operation for not compensating 30,000 USD they have unjustifiably taken from me?

Is this a good business decision or not, in your opinion?

Let me answer it for you. NO.

You can answer my questions only for yourself, not for me and not for others!

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on February 15, 2024, 10:10:12 AM

If they pay every person that blames he got cheated where would this end.

So you believe ignoring compensation demands in regard to their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system is more profitable long term?

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 15, 2024, 09:59:21 AM

I think we already discussed these, they're indeed sharing the bonus in (Friday) but on weekends they never share it because is weekly. I'm gonna see tomorrow 05:00 - 08:00 my local time, did you guys try to use (Monthly Bonus Calculation) website? I put my number around 12,000-14,000$ wagering, Platinum III and on (LOSE) section these months the estimation is around 140$+. Let's see how closest these number with reality.

Don't imagine to get around $140 with only $14k wager. You won't even receive $140 with $100k wager on the in-house games now (if you are in profit, or your loss is only a few hundred dollars). BTW, Eddie has released the monthly bonus for Primedice users today. So, we may expect the monthly bonus tomorrow on Stake. I hope Eddie hasn't planned to release the bonus on the special day of February month of this year (29th February) Cheesy

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on February 15, 2024, 10:10:12 AM

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Hey @AHOYBRAUSE

Feel free to check on 13 October 2023 https://t.me/StakeCasino/5700 or 13 May 2022 https://t.me/StakeCasino/5159. In my local time all of these date are being shared on (Friday) usually in the morning based on my Local-time.

But, for stake time or your time. I don't know, If these date & time are on (Friday).

However, let's see. Just want to make some fun for estimation, If just missed around 20% is still good from my perspective.

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Quote from: BlackyJacky on February 15, 2024, 09:55:15 AM

Please answer my questions, instead of stating nonsense and giving false prophecies:

Quote from: BlackyJacky on February 13, 2024, 12:06:09 PM

If you are Bijan and Edward, would you compensate the 30,000 USD I unjustifiably lost at their provably rigged in-house Black Jack sysyem and move on or would you ignore me and risk that you will be held liable one day?

I mean, they generated a 2,6 billion USD Gross Gaming Revenue in 2022, why risk their multi billion USD profit operation for not compensating 30,000 USD they have unjustifiably taken from me?

Is this a good business decision or not, in your opinion?

Let me answer it for you. NO.
If they pay every person that blames he got cheated where would this end. And now back to mute.

Quote from: ryzaadit on February 15, 2024, 09:59:21 AM

I think we already discussed these, they're indeed sharing the bonus in (Friday) but on weekends they never share it because is weekly. I'm gonna see tomorrow 05:00 - 08:00 my local time, did you guys try to use (Monthly Bonus Calculation) website? I put my number around 12,000-14,000$ wagering, Platinum III and on (LOSE) section these months the estimation is around 140$+. Let's see how closest these number with reality.

I checked the last 2 years and there was not 1 single time it came on a Friday. But I would not be unhappy if this Friday would be an exception. Wink

So I hope you are right!
By the way, this monthly calculation site is total nonsense.
It depends how much you lost, not just if you lost something.

If you have like 14k wager, lost maybe 500$ as a platinum 3 I would think you will get around 50-80$. It's also calculated an what you are playing. Sports pays more bonus than casino. Low house edge games pay less than higher house edge, and so on.

I tried the site with some older months of mine and it was always super wrong. For example the site said I got over 500$ when in fact I got like 150-200$.

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