Topic: stake.com the most corrupt and manipulated casino (Read 292 times)

LOL, that's your explanation. Get real man, you are making a fool of yourself. See more on the bottom.
Funny how you instantly derail the conversation back to your stupid questions and accusations.

Also, why I changed the campaign has 1 reason. It's easy to figure out if you look in the campaign section, I will let you figure it out yourself.
Also, I don't defend stake, I just have a problem with the nonsense you are posting. You are just a loser, plain and simple. And now you try to get your money back. I am also down on stake, but I would never get a ridiculous idea like you and blame a site for it.
Even when I was in the campaign I openly wrote about things I didn't like, because that's what I do. Everybody but you would be able to see that.

And while I am so nice and answer your questions, even though you don't even deserve it, let's talk about bday bonuses. Eirst of all, it's not 3 bday bonuses, learn to read. Every player that has a VIP host gets these. 1 via email and one from your host on your actual birthday. And one more from your host on your stake "bday" (registration date). It's also not hard to figure this out because I CLEARLY explained it in the ANN thread. Guess reading is an issue for you.

Back to duelbits, you tried to delete your posts in this thread you created about the site, yet everything is still saved you know.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64698878



You always think deleting the bs you post here makes it disappear, you are wrong.

I was under a false impression 7 weeks ago, as I had not thoroughly verified my issues with Duelbits. Later, I confirmed that Stake is operated by Medium Rare N.V. and Duelbits by Liquid Entertainment N.V.. Initially, I thought there might be a connection since both entities end with "N.V."—a common structure in Curaçao licensing. However, upon further investigation and after Duelbits provided their betting history, I realized they are not affiliated. Stake, on the other hand, refuses to share my betting data, which further raises questions about their transparency.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/12/23/DYn1g.png
Stake operates mirror sites without proper licensing and hides behind multiple entities to mislead users, as shown by their fragmented licensing model across different jurisdictions. I admit my mistake in comparing Duelbits to Stake. Anyone who still draws such a comparison now, after my explanation, is either clueless or intentionally deceptive. For my misjudgment, I apologize publicly. I had to delete my posts, thank you for bringing to my attention, shows how jobless you are.

Now, let’s talk about you, AHOYBRAUSE. Since I’ve answered your question, it’s time you answer mine:

• Why did you switch your signature campaign from Stake to Whale? Did your puppet master Eddie instruct you to wear a new mask after being exposed as a Stake shill?
• Why were you treated so “special” by Stake, receiving three birthday bonuses? Does that not raise suspicion?
• Why do you continue to defend Stake while conveniently ignoring their fraudulent practices, including their illegal operations and refusal to provide betting data?

You are nothing but a fraud, just like Eddie and his shady empire. You and other Stake puppets (like Ryzeneddit and Holydarkness) operate in a coordinated manner to defend your puppet master while misleading others.

If you have any credibility left, make your own apology for being a part of Stake’s PR propaganda. Otherwise, your empty arguments and selective attacks only expose your hypocrisy.

PS: This forum doesn’t forget, and neither do I. You’ve just been exposed.

I would say Stake is much safer then Rollbit if you bet big, Rollbit has much more accusations against them compared to Stake.
I only play sports betting and the bad thing is that Stake has pretty bad odds but I never had any issue there (at Stake).
Also IMO I think Stakes bonus program is so much better then Rollbits because you get weekly and monthly and don't risk to miss any bonus while at Rollbit its so complicated like you get daily, weekly and monthly so many times I missed to claim bonuses there also instead of get one good bonus you can get like $3 daily for weeks, its bothering and you will miss some payouts.
But this is only my personal experience and opinion and I cant speak for others.

You know what I love about this forum? It never forgets and people like you get exposed day in and day out. So, you would advise him to play at duelbits, but you think stake is a scam company. Interesting. So I wonder, why did you post this 7 weeks ago?


I am looking forward for your excuse now, hahaha. Gotcha!!

Fortunejack, Cloudbet, Betcoin. For sports Bitcoin-Betting.

Stay away from Stake. If I had to recommend, I’d say Duelbits, but take that as just my two cents.

I been seeing many threads about stake in this scam accusations. Is stake reliable to play? Thinking of dumping Rollbit and joining stake. Does anyone have recommendation as a site for a big player?

Op hasn't posted after the initial post and we all know that the initial post was also not that good and it lack information. The is baseless blame and he can't prove anything. I know it's hard to forget about ones losses but in gambling losses do happen and anyone who gambles should understand that.

@AHOYBRAUSE:

Your desperate attempt to label me and distort facts just screams of Stake's playbook. Let’s dismantle your weak arguments one by one: 


1. "Changing from Stake to Whale in a signature campaign" 
Let’s get this straight: I don’t even have a signature campaign, unlike you, who conveniently switched from Stake to Whale in a transparent attempt to feign neutrality. The truth is, you’re still doing the same dirty work for Stake—just with a different mask. 

Fact: You’re not neutral, and your history of defending Stake is well-documented. Dropping Stake’s banner doesn’t erase your past or your motives. 


2. "Recovering losses through blackmail" 
Blackmail? Really? What I’m doing is exposing unethical practices and fraud. It’s called holding people accountable, something that clearly terrifies you and your Stake puppet friends. 

Fact: My posts are based on evidence, unlike your baseless accusations. If you think standing up against exploitation is blackmail, maybe it’s because you’ve gotten too comfortable with silence and complicity. 


3. "At some point even you should start to realize that, your alt accounts in here aside, nobody cares what you have to say" 
The irony is laughable. I don’t have any alt accounts. Unlike Stake puppets like you, Ryzeneddit, Holydarkness, and the rest of your crew, I don’t need to play games with fake profiles to push an agenda or please your puppet masters Eddie and his gang. 

Fact: The only group that comes in swarms here to drown out criticism is Stake’s paid defenders. And yet, you accuse me of using alt accounts? Projection much? 


Why I’m still posting: 
Because every time I speak up, the cracks in Stake’s facade widen. Your panic shows I’m hitting the mark. You can try to discredit me all you want, but the truth is getting out, and more people are starting to see the reality behind Stake’s operations. 

Final notes: 
Your deflections, personal attacks, and laughable accusations only confirm that I’m doing the right thing. Unlike you, I don’t need to hide behind false neutrality or alt accounts. I’m here to expose the truth, and no amount of your whining will change that. 

If you’ve got a problem with that, well, too bad.

You invest so much time spamming this forum with thread after thread after thread. How about doing something useful with your time like getting a job or something. It's apparent you have too much time (and imagination). Maybe you can write a book or even a screenplay, that would be something.
If you did that maybe somebody would finally start caring about what's coming out of your head.

Saying good bye to the forum 20 times and still spamming every day, that's quite an accomplishment. I wonder what you are trying to achieve here but I am convinced it has something to do with recovering your losses any way possible, even through blackmail and other things if necessary. Kind of a last resort, am I right. 
At some point even you should start to realize that, your alt accounts in here aside, nobody cares what you have to say. It's tough to admit that, I know, but it's the unfortunate truth for you.
By the way, didn't you also cry over having your trustpilot review deleted and now that's it's up you are crying again? Dude, get a grip.

To ryzaadit and others:
Provably fair systems, while conceptually reassuring, are only as good as their transparency. A system's integrity shouldn't rely on speculative calculations, community-shared multipliers, or third-party tools to deduce outcomes. Let's address the points raised here:

Provable Fairness:
The essence of provable fairness is to allow players to independently verify results through robust mathematical proofs, not mere assurances or opaque mechanisms. If payouts or house edges aren't explicitly disclosed or verifiable within the system, it creates room for doubt. Transparency isn’t optional—it's essential.

Zero-Dollar Bets:
The observation about $0 bets not being counted in stats is an interesting quirk. However, this doesn’t alleviate concerns over how the system handles wagered outcomes or its broader statistical integrity. If $0 bets influence any part of the user experience (e.g., perceived fairness or strategy development), the implications should be disclosed explicitly.

Predetermined Outcomes:
The predetermined nature of outcomes, as described in games like Mines, reinforces the need for transparency about odds and payouts upfront. Without this, the claim of fairness becomes harder to trust. Players deserve to see the mechanics in action—not just an end result they’re expected to accept without question.

House Edge Calculations:
When the Return to Player (RTP) is less than claimed percentages, such as 99% for Mines, it indicates a higher house edge than advertised. This discrepancy should be clearly addressed by the casino. It’s unacceptable for players to rely on forum posts or external calculators to uncover fundamental aspects of gameplay mechanics.

Third-Party Tools:
Suggesting the use of third-party services to calculate multipliers or verify results is an indictment of the system itself. The onus is on the platform to provide these tools natively, with guarantees they are accurate and up to date. Expecting players to find and trust external sources introduces unnecessary complexity and potential for misinformation.

Final Thoughts:
Stake and similar platforms should prioritize clarity, disclosure, and verifiability. If the game mechanics are truly fair, the platform should have no qualms about publishing full details of payout structures, house edges, and odds for every possible outcome. Anything less undermines the trustworthiness of their "provably fair" label.

The community deserves answers, not evasions. Let’s raise the standard for fairness across the board.

Stakes never changed since the beginning, and "banned account" does not affect the data based on my perspective. Since I only described and explained in a simple way how the outcome is already being determined by the hash after we start the bet & the action we click doesn't matter cause the result is already pre-determined after we click the bet. IMO, the question you are asked is not just only for "Stake" but for all casinos especially while the house edge on MINES was 1% based on your calculation, especially on the grid 7 gems you are ask (open a new thread in Gambling Discussion, discuss on the topic you are asking & maybe there has someone are more experience join in the discussion). Since, I only described in simple way how the outcome is not effected at all even we leave or closed it since already being pre-determined for the mines.

It's not enough unfortunately, you can't just rely on the datas of a third service provider or of a random (banned on top of that) account. The game could have been modified and the third service provider or the forum post could be out of date. In addition I'm not sure the average player is aware of them. Besides that I didn't find the house edge of the different combinations in the links, meaning you have to make your own calculations to bet on outcomes giving 1.00% house edge as claimed by the casino.
This is the first time I've come across a game described as "provably fair" that does not provide its payoffs to be honest, I believe you when you say it's the same thing for other mines games at other casinos, but if it's true they are not "provably fair" either for me.

Use a third service provider.

The things you are asking are for all-casino, cause in every mines game they never provided the chance percentage for next click (like HI-LO) or multiplier on how much you are gonna win by total gems you are successfully clicked. Some communities already shared these: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28457-mines-multiplier-and-win-chance/ or just use third service provider like: https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html

Maybe you can watch these guy too: https://www.youtube.com/@imenjayy he using third parties to determined multiplier he want to choose on mines or dragon tower.

Don't you think it's a bit hard to refer a game as "provably fair" when payouts are not disclosed before you win them? How could you verify the house edge if the payout of each outcome is not available?
I've checked myself several outcomes for 3 mines hidden which is the default setting. And for example when I managed to find 7gems, I have been paid out 2.79x my stake(see picture below).

Probability of finding 7 gems in a row:
P_7gems = 22/25 × 21/24 × 20/23 × 19/22 × 18/21 × 17/20 × 16/19 = 4896/13800 (around 35%)
Return To Player for this outcome :
​4896/13800 x 2.79 = 0.9898

So the RTP is less than 0.99 (99%) actually, meaning the house edge is above 1% for this payout (1.02% precisely)
Players should know if they target this number of gems before cashing out they will lose more than 1% in the long run.
But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.

1. Feel free to prove these, It's provably fair you need to prove by a system, math. Not based a word.

2. In stake you can bet with 0$. There has some possibility, the stats in your accounts only counted for the bets with some money (avoiding any bets with 0$ being included to your stats account). That's why, your seed bets bigger than your stats bets. You could be using a tactic with 0$ for bait bets, I also doing the same things. I tested right now making over 40-50 bets and 1 bets with 0.01$. My stats only raise 1 bets (I guess, the stats bets only counted for a bet with the money) not with 0$ bets.

3. It doesn't affect the outcome or result. When you start the bets, your outcome is already determined by the hash. I gave you an example for "MINES" work with simple information
- Start the bet
- RNG or Provably Fair will Generated Hash Number
- The number result will generated from number 1-25
- The mines is the number are not show up in the result hash



Exmple:
- I choose 3 mines
- Start the bet
- The result hash: 1,2,3,4,6,7,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,23,24,25

If you look in the result hash, the number are not being show up is number: 5,8,20. These mean, the bomb on the number box 5,8 and 20. Can't be manipulated, you can learn how mines work in here: https://provablefair.altervista.org/faucet-game/stake/mines/

4. No solid proofs, feel free to share (not just based speculation).

5. Can't comment, cause each forum have their own rules.

Ahoy, welcome back to the scene, my friend. Did the Stake overlords cut you loose, or did you finally wake up to the circus you were defending? Either way, congrats on stepping into the light—assuming you’re actually standing by the truth now and not auditioning for another casino’s shill squad.

But let’s not forget who we’re dealing with. Stake, Eddie Craven, and his loyal puppet army, from mods to affiliates, to the "casino experts" at places like Casino Guru and beyond—none of them are innocent. They all play a part in this well-oiled machine of deceit. Let’s give credit where it’s due:

DarkHolyness and the Stake Forums: A cesspool of censorship and fanboy behavior. Mods aren’t moderators—they’re gatekeepers of propaganda, deleting dissent while cheering on Eddie’s rigged empire.

Casino Guru: The supposed "impartial" reviewer is nothing more than a glorified PR arm for the gambling industry, pushing the very platforms that destroy lives.

Twitter Affiliates and Kick Streamers: These influencers aren’t promoting games—they’re promoting a predatory system, baiting followers into the pit for a share of the spoils.

Stake’s “Provably Fair” Sham: A buzzword as empty as the wallets of their victims. Rigged blackjack, algorithmically ruthless slots—none of it is fair, and we’ve got the numbers to prove it.

The Mods’ Power Trip: On Stake forums, Reddit, and beyond, moderators wield their bans like tyrants to silence any threat to their paycheck.

But let’s not stop at the enablers. Eddie Craven and Bijan Tehrani aren’t just running a casino; they’re orchestrating a global crypto
catastrophe, manipulating everything from payment systems to public discourse:

Illegal Payment Channels: UPI scams, frozen accounts, GDPR violations. Stake isn’t playing by the rules—they’re burning the rulebook.
The Cycle of Addiction: Weekly bonuses and fake giveaways are psychological warfare, keeping players chasing losses while lining Eddie’s pockets.

Global Propaganda Network: From Twitter to Reddit to Bitcoin forums, their influence seeps into every corner, crushing dissent and spreading lies.

So Ahoy, if you’ve truly switched sides, then let’s hear it loud and clear: Condemn Stake and its empire. Stand with the truth, not for a paycheck. It’s not just about one casino—it’s about a system of exploitation that preys on the vulnerable under the guise of "entertainment."

For the rest of the puppets still clinging to Eddie’s shadow:

Your time is running out. The truth is out there, and the cracks in your empire are widening. You can try to silence us, but you can’t erase the evidence:

🚨 Exposing Stake.com’s Rigged Games🔗
🎁 Eddie’s Crypto Empire: A Gift-Wrapped Trap🔗

Eddie’s crypto kingdom isn’t a community—it’s a trap. And you, Ahoy, have the chance to choose a side. Stand by the truth, or keep playing for scraps.

I’ll leave you with this:

Stake doesn’t care about you. Eddie and Bijan don’t care about you. They care about profits, and everyone else—mods, affiliates, casino reviewers—is just a cog in their money-grinding machine.

Break the cycle. Protect yourself. Expose the lies.

Peace out,
motherf*ers.

╭∩╮ Eddie and his empire.

Yes it seems that the OP is frustrated at this loss and trying to blame the casino that they are rigged. Also the way he has presented the information is not clear at all and one of the image link is broken too. He need to settle down and write a detailed post if he thinks that the casino is not right.

However Stake is one of the reputed casinos and a lot of gamblers trust it. I think OP is making a false accusation against them.

Let's see if I understand this correctly, your accusation is two pronged:

1. They didn't credit you with the correct amount of total bets, where you've wagered about 120,000 times and they only recorded 71,200?



I might be wrong as I am not on Stake, but isn't there an easier way to tell how many bets you've made so far? Like the betting log? Granted, they randomly archive bets to keep things neat and tidy, but perhaps that can give you a clearer picture of how many bets are actually registered?

2. And this is connected with the situation above, about bets being registerd. You mentioned about autorefresh that made you auto-lose. Maybe, that is the root of this case: bets that got somehow autorefreshed were voided. Your fund were not credited or debited. The games simply did not register. Can you perhaps check this and/or provide a proof of a session where it autorefresh and the game marked as a lost [with the fund being deducted]?

And, a more comprehensive and complete opening post will be much appreciated. I think there are so many missing screenshot from what you intended to serve?

It's your right to join another casino and place bets at that other casino but it's not right to blame a casino for your losses. In provably fair system sometimes users lose more than they win but that doesn't mean that a casino's provably fair system is rigged. If you really don't trust a casino's provably fair system then you may go with sports betting as that's a good option I guess.