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legendary
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you can't just rely on the datas of a third service provider or of a random (banned on top of that) account. The game could have been modified
Stakes never changed since the beginning, and "banned account" does not affect the data based on my perspective. Since I only described and explained in a simple way how the outcome is already being determined by the hash after we start the bet & the action we click doesn't matter cause the result is already pre-determined after we click the bet. IMO, the question you are asked is not just only for "Stake" but for all casinos especially while the house edge on MINES was 1% based on your calculation, especially on the grid 7 gems you are ask (open a new thread in Gambling Discussion, discuss on the topic you are asking & maybe there has someone are more experience join in the discussion). Since, I only described in simple way how the outcome is not effected at all even we leave or closed it since already being pre-determined for the mines.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 2353
But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.
Use a third service provider.

The things you are asking are for all-casino, cause in every mines game they never provided the chance percentage for next click (like HI-LO) or multiplier on how much you are gonna win by total gems you are successfully clicked. Some communities already shared these: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28457-mines-multiplier-and-win-chance/ or just use third service provider like: https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html

Maybe you can watch these guy too: https://www.youtube.com/@imenjayy he using third parties to determined multiplier he want to choose on mines or dragon tower.
It's not enough unfortunately, you can't just rely on the datas of a third service provider or of a random (banned on top of that) account. The game could have been modified and the third service provider or the forum post could be out of date. In addition I'm not sure the average player is aware of them. Besides that I didn't find the house edge of the different combinations in the links, meaning you have to make your own calculations to bet on outcomes giving 1.00% house edge as claimed by the casino.
This is the first time I've come across a game described as "provably fair" that does not provide its payoffs to be honest, I believe you when you say it's the same thing for other mines games at other casinos, but if it's true they are not "provably fair" either for me.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1262
But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.
Use a third service provider.

The things you are asking are for all-casino, cause in every mines game they never provided the chance percentage for next click (like HI-LO) or multiplier on how much you are gonna win by total gems you are successfully clicked. Some communities already shared these: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28457-mines-multiplier-and-win-chance/ or just use third service provider like: https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html

Maybe you can watch these guy too: https://www.youtube.com/@imenjayy he using third parties to determined multiplier he want to choose on mines or dragon tower.

legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 2353
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Don't you think it's a bit hard to refer a game as "provably fair" when payouts are not disclosed before you win them? How could you verify the house edge if the payout of each outcome is not available?
I've checked myself several outcomes for 3 mines hidden which is the default setting. And for example when I managed to find 7gems, I have been paid out 2.79x my stake(see picture below).

Probability of finding 7 gems in a row:
P7gems = 22/25 × 21/24 × 20/23 × 19/22 × 18/21 × 17/20 × 16/19 = 4896/13800 (around 35%)
Return To Player for this outcome :
​4896/13800 x 2.79 = 0.9898

So the RTP is less than 0.99 (99%) actually, meaning the house edge is above 1% for this payout (1.02% precisely)
Players should know if they target this number of gems before cashing out they will lose more than 1% in the long run.
But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.

legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1262
1. Feel free to prove these, It's provably fair you need to prove by a system, math. Not based a word.

2. In stake you can bet with 0$. There has some possibility, the stats in your accounts only counted for the bets with some money (avoiding any bets with 0$ being included to your stats account). That's why, your seed bets bigger than your stats bets. You could be using a tactic with 0$ for bait bets, I also doing the same things. I tested right now making over 40-50 bets and 1 bets with 0.01$. My stats only raise 1 bets (I guess, the stats bets only counted for a bet with the money) not with 0$ bets.

3. It doesn't affect the outcome or result. When you start the bets, your outcome is already determined by the hash. I gave you an example for "MINES" work with simple information
- Start the bet
- RNG or Provably Fair will Generated Hash Number
- The number result will generated from number 1-25
- The mines is the number are not show up in the result hash



Exmple:
- I choose 3 mines
- Start the bet
- The result hash: 1,2,3,4,6,7,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,23,24,25

If you look in the result hash, the number are not being show up is number: 5,8,20. These mean, the bomb on the number box 5,8 and 20. Can't be manipulated, you can learn how mines work in here: https://provablefair.altervista.org/faucet-game/stake/mines/

4. No solid proofs, feel free to share (not just based speculation).

5. Can't comment, cause each forum have their own rules.
newbie
Activity: 119
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Why is it always some Indian guys recently that complain like this in here?
Or are they all the same person?
Every time complaining about the provably fair stuff, bonuses and so on.
The stats you displayed mean nothing. You can have made high risk bets, or low risk bets to level up. These stats are honestly so irrelevant. When you look at my bets (I have 463000 bets and over 300000 wins) you would think I have a big profit, but in reality I am deep in the red.
Also, what would anybody see from you posting your nonce? I tell you what, nothing.

Only thing I agree on is the terrible mod service in the forum. They have some kind of hunger for power unfortunately and do as they please. But many mods do so, same with these clowns on BC.


Ahoy, welcome back to the scene, my friend. Did the Stake overlords cut you loose, or did you finally wake up to the circus you were defending? Either way, congrats on stepping into the light—assuming you’re actually standing by the truth now and not auditioning for another casino’s shill squad.

But let’s not forget who we’re dealing with. Stake, Eddie Craven, and his loyal puppet army, from mods to affiliates, to the "casino experts" at places like Casino Guru and beyond—none of them are innocent. They all play a part in this well-oiled machine of deceit. Let’s give credit where it’s due:

DarkHolyness and the Stake Forums: A cesspool of censorship and fanboy behavior. Mods aren’t moderators—they’re gatekeepers of propaganda, deleting dissent while cheering on Eddie’s rigged empire.

Casino Guru: The supposed "impartial" reviewer is nothing more than a glorified PR arm for the gambling industry, pushing the very platforms that destroy lives.

Twitter Affiliates and Kick Streamers: These influencers aren’t promoting games—they’re promoting a predatory system, baiting followers into the pit for a share of the spoils.

Stake’s “Provably Fair” Sham: A buzzword as empty as the wallets of their victims. Rigged blackjack, algorithmically ruthless slots—none of it is fair, and we’ve got the numbers to prove it.

The Mods’ Power Trip: On Stake forums, Reddit, and beyond, moderators wield their bans like tyrants to silence any threat to their paycheck.

But let’s not stop at the enablers. Eddie Craven and Bijan Tehrani aren’t just running a casino; they’re orchestrating a global crypto
catastrophe, manipulating everything from payment systems to public discourse:

Illegal Payment Channels: UPI scams, frozen accounts, GDPR violations. Stake isn’t playing by the rules—they’re burning the rulebook.
The Cycle of Addiction: Weekly bonuses and fake giveaways are psychological warfare, keeping players chasing losses while lining Eddie’s pockets.

Global Propaganda Network: From Twitter to Reddit to Bitcoin forums, their influence seeps into every corner, crushing dissent and spreading lies.

So Ahoy, if you’ve truly switched sides, then let’s hear it loud and clear: Condemn Stake and its empire. Stand with the truth, not for a paycheck. It’s not just about one casino—it’s about a system of exploitation that preys on the vulnerable under the guise of "entertainment."

For the rest of the puppets still clinging to Eddie’s shadow:

Your time is running out. The truth is out there, and the cracks in your empire are widening. You can try to silence us, but you can’t erase the evidence:

🚨 Exposing Stake.com’s Rigged Games🔗
🎁 Eddie’s Crypto Empire: A Gift-Wrapped Trap🔗

Eddie’s crypto kingdom isn’t a community—it’s a trap. And you, Ahoy, have the chance to choose a side. Stand by the truth, or keep playing for scraps.

I’ll leave you with this:

Stake doesn’t care about you. Eddie and Bijan don’t care about you. They care about profits, and everyone else—mods, affiliates, casino reviewers—is just a cog in their money-grinding machine.

Break the cycle. Protect yourself. Expose the lies.

Peace out,
motherf*ers.

╭∩╮ Eddie and his empire.
hero member
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It's your right to join another casino and place bets at that other casino but it's not right to blame a casino for your losses. In provably fair system sometimes users lose more than they win but that doesn't mean that a casino's provably fair system is rigged. If you really don't trust a casino's provably fair system then you may go with sports betting as that's a good option I guess.

Yes it seems that the OP is frustrated at this loss and trying to blame the casino that they are rigged. Also the way he has presented the information is not clear at all and one of the image link is broken too. He need to settle down and write a detailed post if he thinks that the casino is not right.

However Stake is one of the reputed casinos and a lot of gamblers trust it. I think OP is making a false accusation against them.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1603
Yes, I'm an asshole
Let's see if I understand this correctly, your accusation is two pronged:

1. They didn't credit you with the correct amount of total bets, where you've wagered about 120,000 times and they only recorded 71,200?



I might be wrong as I am not on Stake, but isn't there an easier way to tell how many bets you've made so far? Like the betting log? Granted, they randomly archive bets to keep things neat and tidy, but perhaps that can give you a clearer picture of how many bets are actually registered?

2. And this is connected with the situation above, about bets being registerd. You mentioned about autorefresh that made you auto-lose. Maybe, that is the root of this case: bets that got somehow autorefreshed were voided. Your fund were not credited or debited. The games simply did not register. Can you perhaps check this and/or provide a proof of a session where it autorefresh and the game marked as a lost [with the fund being deducted]?

And, a more comprehensive and complete opening post will be much appreciated. I think there are so many missing screenshot from what you intended to serve?
hero member
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It's your right to join another casino and place bets at that other casino but it's not right to blame a casino for your losses. In provably fair system sometimes users lose more than they win but that doesn't mean that a casino's provably fair system is rigged. If you really don't trust a casino's provably fair system then you may go with sports betting as that's a good option I guess.
legendary
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I'm sure this is another haters who lose a big amount.

Is not it obvious that any casino game is always favored by casino owners, even if you are lucky? That is why you should only gamble with money you can afford to lose, and you should go to the casino if you are looking for fun rather than profit.
Some people will not accept this unless they have lost and lost and moved to other gambling sites to lose and lose again and again. I have used three gambling sites before which let me know that what can be called manipulation is not manipulation as I experienced it on the three gambling sites when I wae playing Roulette. A time you will continue to play and not hit the right numbers but continue to lose. People should understand that they can not win the house.
legendary
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Try to organize and improve the presentation of your scam accusation. Include all the necessary proof and adjust the flow of your statement so everyone can easily understand it. For casinos like Stake, they may have a solid reputation, but even they aren’t completely immune to scam accusations. In fact, it’s not just them, even other popular casinos here face similar claims.
legendary
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Happy New year 🤗
I'm sure this is another haters who lose a big amount.

Is not it obvious that any casino game is always favored by casino owners, even if you are lucky? That is why you should only gamble with money you can afford to lose, and you should go to the casino if you are looking for fun rather than profit.
hero member
Activity: 798
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Why is it always some Indian guys recently that complain like this in here?
Or are they all the same person?
Every time complaining about the provably fair stuff, bonuses and so on.
The stats you displayed mean nothing. You can have made high risk bets, or low risk bets to level up. These stats are honestly so irrelevant. When you look at my bets (I have 463000 bets and over 300000 wins) you would think I have a big profit, but in reality I am deep in the red.
Also, what would anybody see from you posting your nonce? I tell you what, nothing.

Only thing I agree on is the terrible mod service in the forum. They have some kind of hunger for power unfortunately and do as they please. But many mods do so, same with these clowns on BC.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
http://http://[img][/img]1. we all know stake.com provably fair system is totally rigged for a given set of noce , there are multiple results which concur provably fair .

2. moreover they are undermining the bets placed so that you cannot level up .
i place 120k bets with a set of seeds , and they just show 71000 bets , totally scam to undermine your game play.http://

https://imgur.com/a/H7rWEKw
here you can see the stats show i have played 71200 bets.

https://imgur.com/a/ahlvdNf
here you can see my nonce above 120k





3. when you play mines , your screen auto refreshes and you start to loose.
4. they undermine your gameplay, so that you loose and no bonus must be given to you
5.and i posted this thing , on stakecommunity , thos narcissistic moderators flagged it as i have asked tips.


https://imgur.com/UfpYHAH

stop bullshitting stake.com
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