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Topic: StakeMiners: restricted withdrawals, falsified stats, insolvent. Do not invest! - page 10. (Read 12151 times)

legendary
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I have a question about StakeMiners TOS.

https://stakeminers.com/terms.php

Sections 8.8 and 8.9 specifically. Who's "you"? What exactly is it trying to say here? Does this mean that the withdrawal penalty doesn't apply to payouts and reinvestments? Why not just say so? Please ELI18.

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    8.8 PAYOUT FEES: Payouts are not the same as principal withdraws, payouts are the earnings you are paid on your investment.
    8.9 There are absolutely no fees associated with Payouts. You are not charged transaction fees, nor are you charged a fee for receiving a payout.
legendary
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Hello there.

I like what I am seeing, and I have decided to give your service a try Smiley

I processed your deposit earlier, Welcome to StakeMiners.com . If you have any questions you can ask me directly or any of of our executive members of the BOI. we are here to help you thru your investment process.

cyberpinoy, don't forget to respond to serious investors asking questions on the other forum:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/pos-mining-stakeminers/3925

Thanks.
legendary
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I'm creating - very reluctantly I must say as I think this is going to be a massive waste of time - an unmoderated thread to discuss StakeMiners and to some extent the controversies surrounding its owner Leroy Fodor aka cyberpinoy aka knlgfx. You can find all grimy details about Mr. Fodor in Gleb Gamow's expose tread.

Let's start with what prompted this thread. Mr. Fodor runs a self-moderated thread about StakeMiners and he does not allow any questions to be posted there by anyone whom he doesn't like. I have unfortunately fallen into that category so my three posts were deleted from that thread. See those posts below.

Update September 3, 2015. Since cyberpinoy hasn't responded to my attempts to get his attention regarding his TOS I have to tentatively conclude that StakeMiners is probably not being maintained or supported very well. Use at your own risk.

Update September 23, 2015. Cyberpinoy has locked his thread on Bitcointalk and has declared that he will not be visiting GH forum anymore. He has left multiple questions unanswered. Based on the available information I must conclude that StakeMiners is unprofitable and cyberpinoy is trying to obfuscate that fact.

Update October 23, 2015. Cyberpinoy has not explained the latest calculation showing that StakeMiners assets are about 50 BTC / 40% lower than its declared liabilities. In other words, if all investors decided to withdraw they would get less than 60% of their investment back because most coins held by StakeMiners lost value relative to Bitcoin. However cyberpinoy refuses to acknowledge or disclose this issue.
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