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Quote from: Oscilson on October 25, 2015, 04:05:22 AM

Quote from: Small on October 25, 2015, 01:25:46 AM

It is hard to justify any VPN as being anonymous. There is no way to ensure that they do not keep any connection logs and any logs can be seen if the servers gets compromised, whether they delete it or not.

If the VPN provider keeps the user IP address, then the user is not safe. The user may have to use a public wifi to access, however, the user has to register to use the wifi by providing a phone number of receive activation code.

Use your neighbour's wifi. You can also try to daisychain various VPN/Proxys/Tor nodes to ensure that it is hard to track the origin. The security would not be compromised whatsoever but it is not guaranteed to conceal your identity 100% too.

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Quote from: enhu on October 24, 2015, 02:23:05 PM

There are domain registrars and hosting that accepts bitcoin these days, can't they hide the identity of the gambling site owners?
I can see owners here are already into it, scammers had been hiding using those services. I assume michaelmorairty is doing it, users are already doxing him and seem to find nothing.

Yes but it never is truly anonymous. You can't even get a anonymous VPN these days because many admins had too many issues with people performing illegal hacks with them.

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Quote from: Small on October 25, 2015, 01:25:46 AM

It is hard to justify any VPN as being anonymous. There is no way to ensure that they do not keep any connection logs and any logs can be seen if the servers gets compromised, whether they delete it or not.

If the VPN provider keeps the user IP address, then the user is not safe. The user may have to use a public wifi to access, however, the user has to register to use the wifi by providing a phone number of receive activation code.

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Quote from: Small on October 25, 2015, 01:25:46 AM

Quote from: cazkooo on October 24, 2015, 12:42:27 AM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 23, 2015, 08:02:17 AM

Even with security it is still possible to find out who is at the end of the computer. I personally wouldn't start a casino for fear of that, plus it makes you a target for your coins. You need to hire a lot of smart people in order to have that happen, and they have to be trustworthy.

If you hide behind anonymous vpn then you will be safe and thats all you need to operate it. Also you only need to use moneypot if you fear to be a target for your coins , some gambling site cost almost nothing to host their site and use moneypot api but they are not making good enough but still good for experience to handle gambling site

It is hard to justify any VPN as being anonymous. There is no way to ensure that they do not keep any connection logs and any logs can be seen if the servers gets compromised, whether they delete it or not.

assuming the software providers to be completely honest and loyal towards their customers/users but as soon as they get threaten to face jail or legal issues it wont be that long before your identity is revealed ,i am not including professional doxing here.
online casinos are not that easy.

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Quote from: cazkooo on October 24, 2015, 12:42:27 AM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 23, 2015, 08:02:17 AM

Even with security it is still possible to find out who is at the end of the computer. I personally wouldn't start a casino for fear of that, plus it makes you a target for your coins. You need to hire a lot of smart people in order to have that happen, and they have to be trustworthy.

If you hide behind anonymous vpn then you will be safe and thats all you need to operate it. Also you only need to use moneypot if you fear to be a target for your coins , some gambling site cost almost nothing to host their site and use moneypot api but they are not making good enough but still good for experience to handle gambling site

It is hard to justify any VPN as being anonymous. There is no way to ensure that they do not keep any connection logs and any logs can be seen if the servers gets compromised, whether they delete it or not.

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Quote from: Superhitech on October 24, 2015, 11:59:27 PM

Quote from: enhu on October 24, 2015, 02:23:05 PM

There are domain registrars and hosting that accepts bitcoin these days, can't they hide the identity of the gambling site owners?
I can see owners here are already into it, scammers had been hiding using those services. I assume michaelmorairty is doing it, users are already doxing him and seem to find nothing.

Yes, they can hide your identity when you buy a domain; you can protect your identity from WHOIS so the public can't see who bought the domain using WHOIS guard when you're buying a domain.

WHOIS guard is a good option for this. Also the police or CIA or anything will not be looking for you anyway unless if your site is already as popular as PD. There are many gambling site that is not touch by them

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Quote from: enhu on October 24, 2015, 02:23:05 PM

There are domain registrars and hosting that accepts bitcoin these days, can't they hide the identity of the gambling site owners?
I can see owners here are already into it, scammers had been hiding using those services. I assume michaelmorairty is doing it, users are already doxing him and seem to find nothing.

Yes, they can hide your identity when you buy a domain; you can protect your identity from WHOIS so the public can't see who bought the domain using WHOIS guard when you're buying a domain.

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There are domain registrars and hosting that accepts bitcoin these days, can't they hide the identity of the gambling site owners?
I can see owners here are already into it, scammers had been hiding using those services. I assume michaelmorairty is doing it, users are already doxing him and seem to find nothing.

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Quote from: Xenoph0bia on October 24, 2015, 11:01:37 AM

Quote from: Oscilson on October 24, 2015, 04:40:22 AM

Quote from: Inkvor on October 24, 2015, 12:20:15 AM

Quote from: Oscilson on October 23, 2015, 08:31:19 AM

On line casino is good as along as the operators do not reveal their information, otherwise, there is no difference between an online and off line one.

you cannot be anonymous from the government or other ruling bodies .
the of-line casino owners are tied up with the the govt.. nobody can do this kind of stuff unless you have those connections and money.
the reason these casinos are not being rated is because of their too small scale investment and the use of decentralized currency.

Decentralized currency such as bitcoin or anonymous coin such as Monero can help a lot. But you still have to rent a server, that might expose your identity.

Agreed with you that no one can hide their identity while operating a casino whether its online or offline. You have to follow some procedure and has to show your identity in somewhere between this procedure. But I think online casinos will be very profitable as many people are preferring to use crypto currencies rather than traditional money for gambling purpose.

Yeah, crypto currencies are awesome for gambling. Not to mention faster than most traditional payment method.

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Quote from: Oscilson on October 24, 2015, 04:40:22 AM

Quote from: Inkvor on October 24, 2015, 12:20:15 AM

Quote from: Oscilson on October 23, 2015, 08:31:19 AM

On line casino is good as along as the operators do not reveal their information, otherwise, there is no difference between an online and off line one.

you cannot be anonymous from the government or other ruling bodies .
the of-line casino owners are tied up with the the govt.. nobody can do this kind of stuff unless you have those connections and money.
the reason these casinos are not being rated is because of their too small scale investment and the use of decentralized currency.

Decentralized currency such as bitcoin or anonymous coin such as Monero can help a lot. But you still have to rent a server, that might expose your identity.

Agreed with you that no one can hide their identity while operating a casino whether its online or offline. You have to follow some procedure and has to show your identity in somewhere between this procedure. But I think online casinos will be very profitable as many people are preferring to use crypto currencies rather than traditional money for gambling purpose.

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Quote from: Inkvor on October 24, 2015, 12:20:15 AM

Quote from: Oscilson on October 23, 2015, 08:31:19 AM

On line casino is good as along as the operators do not reveal their information, otherwise, there is no difference between an online and off line one.

you cannot be anonymous from the government or other ruling bodies .
the of-line casino owners are tied up with the the govt.. nobody can do this kind of stuff unless you have those connections and money.
the reason these casinos are not being rated is because of their too small scale investment and the use of decentralized currency.

Decentralized currency such as bitcoin or anonymous coin such as Monero can help a lot. But you still have to rent a server, that might expose your identity.

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Quote from: cazkooo on October 24, 2015, 12:42:27 AM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 23, 2015, 08:02:17 AM

Even with security it is still possible to find out who is at the end of the computer. I personally wouldn't start a casino for fear of that, plus it makes you a target for your coins. You need to hire a lot of smart people in order to have that happen, and they have to be trustworthy.

If you hide behind anonymous vpn then you will be safe and thats all you need to operate it. Also you only need to use moneypot if you fear to be a target for your coins , some gambling site cost almost nothing to host their site and use moneypot api but they are not making good enough but still good for experience to handle gambling site

NO, you are not anonymous with just single software you install and start using in a couple of seconds.
every plugin u install can be traced back to ,every single transaction.....its just impossible to stay anonymous .
some countries just dont care about bitcoin and its casinos, what leex' says is most probably a fact.
its just not that easy. Undecided

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 23, 2015, 08:02:17 AM

Even with security it is still possible to find out who is at the end of the computer. I personally wouldn't start a casino for fear of that, plus it makes you a target for your coins. You need to hire a lot of smart people in order to have that happen, and they have to be trustworthy.

If you hide behind anonymous vpn then you will be safe and thats all you need to operate it. Also you only need to use moneypot if you fear to be a target for your coins , some gambling site cost almost nothing to host their site and use moneypot api but they are not making good enough but still good for experience to handle gambling site

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Quote from: Oscilson on October 23, 2015, 08:31:19 AM

Quote from: Supercrypt on October 23, 2015, 07:59:54 AM

Quote from: ingiltere on October 23, 2015, 05:01:42 AM

Quote from: mindrust on October 23, 2015, 04:59:43 AM

Forget anything that relates to gambling. Unless you know what you are doing its too risky to own a casino. You may even get shot.

Not if nobody knows you are the owner. That's why we have anonymous casino sites, anonymity is both needed for customers and owners.

Yes anonymity is an essential thing now everybody prefers to. This is because of security and to avoid any kind of situations. Now a days we can get everything without revealing our identity information. So starting a gambling site anonymously will give you extra protection as well.

On line casino is good as along as the operators do not reveal their information, otherwise, there is no difference between an online and off line one.

you cannot be anonymous from the government or other ruling bodies .
the of-line casino owners are tied up with the the govt.. nobody can do this kind of stuff unless you have those connections and money.
the reason these casinos are not being rated is because of their too small scale investment and the use of decentralized currency.

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Quote from: StevenLiang on October 23, 2015, 06:23:11 AM

Quote from: mindrust on October 23, 2015, 04:59:43 AM

Forget anything that relates to gambling. Unless you know what you are doing its too risky to own a casino. You may even get shot.

I think the risk is not from competitor. Own the online casino means you need to pay your users wins. And that's mean a high risk for you too.
And when your identity goes to public, some lost user will try to revenge.. nah, bad business.

It's better to give provably fair dice, blackjack and another card game like Crypto-Games.net

Yup you do have to bear the risk. The risk is relatively low in the long term due to the house edge, the house is much more likely to win compared to the gambler which means that in the long run, you would win. Even though, they may win in the short term, you would profit in the long term. You can choose to not reveal your identity. Gambling sites can cheat their investors too.

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Quote from: Supercrypt on October 23, 2015, 07:59:54 AM

Quote from: ingiltere on October 23, 2015, 05:01:42 AM

Quote from: mindrust on October 23, 2015, 04:59:43 AM

Forget anything that relates to gambling. Unless you know what you are doing its too risky to own a casino. You may even get shot.

Not if nobody knows you are the owner. That's why we have anonymous casino sites, anonymity is both needed for customers and owners.

Yes anonymity is an essential thing now everybody prefers to. This is because of security and to avoid any kind of situations. Now a days we can get everything without revealing our identity information. So starting a gambling site anonymously will give you extra protection as well.

On line casino is good as along as the operators do not reveal their information, otherwise, there is no difference between an online and off line one.

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Quote from: Supercrypt on October 23, 2015, 07:59:54 AM

Quote from: ingiltere on October 23, 2015, 05:01:42 AM

Quote from: mindrust on October 23, 2015, 04:59:43 AM

Forget anything that relates to gambling. Unless you know what you are doing its too risky to own a casino. You may even get shot.

Not if nobody knows you are the owner. That's why we have anonymous casino sites, anonymity is both needed for customers and owners.

Yes anonymity is an essential thing now everybody prefers to. This is because of security and to avoid any kind of situations. Now a days we can get everything without revealing our identity information. So starting a gambling site anonymously will give you extra protection as well.

Even with security it is still possible to find out who is at the end of the computer. I personally wouldn't start a casino for fear of that, plus it makes you a target for your coins. You need to hire a lot of smart people in order to have that happen, and they have to be trustworthy.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 23, 2015, 05:01:42 AM

Quote from: mindrust on October 23, 2015, 04:59:43 AM

Forget anything that relates to gambling. Unless you know what you are doing its too risky to own a casino. You may even get shot.

Not if nobody knows you are the owner. That's why we have anonymous casino sites, anonymity is both needed for customers and owners.

Yes anonymity is an essential thing now everybody prefers to. This is because of security and to avoid any kind of situations. Now a days we can get everything without revealing our identity information. So starting a gambling site anonymously will give you extra protection as well.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 23, 2015, 04:59:43 AM

Forget anything that relates to gambling. Unless you know what you are doing its too risky to own a casino. You may even get shot.

I think the risk is not from competitor. Own the online casino means you need to pay your users wins. And that's mean a high risk for you too.
And when your identity goes to public, some lost user will try to revenge.. nah, bad business.

It's better to give provably fair dice, blackjack and another card game like Crypto-Games.net

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Quote from: jmasterson on April 24, 2015, 04:49:10 AM

Is it still profitable to start a gambling site? Or is the market already saturated?
What do you think is the most profitable gambling site to create?

ofc that this is still profitable, you just need to make an attractive one and you will see how people soon or later will join, you know bad habits... Tongue

i dont know whats the most profitable site for gambling, but for example, for me, i like so much the poker sites, and/or sports betting sites.

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