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October 20, 2015, 12:58:23 PM
The important thing for make a service (gambling or anything) success is promote and how looks your service unique, and have good features on the market. Gambling industry have an own market, although there are some gambling site which more popular, but if you make an unique features on your site, it will be success and will attract more people to join. Also don't forget to make fantastic giveaway and promotion. Good luck.

Yes, even a normal looking sites also get more success just because of intense advertising. Give free credits and bonus are the other type of promotions to make any gambling site into more successful. But to sustain with continuous success, we must need new creative games.

That's what I said about unique feature, that's right, new games, new features is the one of important thing which can sustain continues success.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 12:21:54 PM
The important thing for make a service (gambling or anything) success is promote and how looks your service unique, and have good features on the market. Gambling industry have an own market, although there are some gambling site which more popular, but if you make an unique features on your site, it will be success and will attract more people to join. Also don't forget to make fantastic giveaway and promotion. Good luck.

Yes, even a normal looking sites also get more success just because of intense advertising. Give free credits and bonus are the other type of promotions to make any gambling site into more successful. But to sustain with continuous success, we must need new creative games.
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October 20, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
The important thing for make a service (gambling or anything) success is promote and how looks your service unique, and have good features on the market. Gambling industry have an own market, although there are some gambling site which more popular, but if you make an unique features on your site, it will be success and will attract more people to join. Also don't forget to make fantastic giveaway and promotion. Good luck.
hero member
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October 20, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
IMHO websites are probably not worth it.  Too many sites are out, you need  unique idea.  Then you need to build up rep and trust that you are going to pay out, probably with promotions and proof of bank funds.  Then you are going to have to advertise the heck out of it.  Then finally you are going to need great security as well, do all those things you probably will be down quite a bit of cash at first.
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October 20, 2015, 10:32:19 AM
Making a website is to long to make then also css design database and scripts...... I think you need a capital around 4000$ .
maybe it is a good estimation for making a website  but i doubt we are here to build one ? there is a big difference between just a website and a gambling casino...its a business ,investment ...etc..not just simple website.
Yeah then you need also a hacking shield like anti trojan injector or any script that can protect your gambling site... If you make a simple gambling website without this your site will be hack easily.. Im always reading in hacker forum that some hackers planning to hack a bitcoin casino sites.. I saw that theres many hacking tool like monitoring cache monitoring cookies or any hacking tool... so good luck to make your own gambling site.....
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 10:19:43 AM
It is really tough to make a new profitable gambling game nowadays. If you start a normal bitcoin casino app then you will need to have a huge marketing budget in order to grab some market share and to make profits.

Yes a normal gambling site may not attract many users as there are lot of already available gambling opportunities. I myself really looking for a decent innovative and highly new looking sites for my gambling interests. So, a new innovative site will get a huge success.
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October 20, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
you don't need to know anything about coding. you just need to have a "good" "new" "idea" then you can hire somebody who does the coding for you.

the hard part is the idea, the coding can be done by anybody and it is easy and also not that expensive.

You'll still need money to start it and even more if you need to hire people to built the site for you. This is a serious investment.

I don't think you need money or you need to hire people as such .You need initial investment which is TIME !To start a gambling site you need a creative idea ,not saturated stuff.people will come to your site if they see fair games and profit .Start off with some free website building tools and they are totally free! Once done you could learn basic coding to design flash based games.So many freelancers do it for very cheap prices and I wont count that as  a big installment .

Oh yea, because time is all you need... The site hosting with broadband is free, anti ddos is free. All of us can make a good website, it just takes the time and you just need basic coding to make an outstanding site that integrates provably fair option and automatic deposits/withdrawals of funds. You don't need it to be safe or anything, right? Citing a popular actor: "just do it!" Cheesy
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October 20, 2015, 07:43:07 AM
It is really tough to make a new profitable gambling game nowadays. If you start a normal bitcoin casino app then you will need to have a huge marketing budget in order to grab some market share and to make profits.

Indeed. Making profits seems extremely difficult right now for several reasons. The main issue is that the userbase is extremely limited and small. Most of the players are the same, no matter what site you look at. And 95% of the players bring very little to the "house" so in order to profit house needs to "get lucky" with the 5%. But this means you first need to make sure those 5% make their way to your site
sr. member
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October 20, 2015, 07:28:13 AM
It is really tough to make a new profitable gambling game nowadays. If you start a normal bitcoin casino app then you will need to have a huge marketing budget in order to grab some market share and to make profits.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 05:26:04 AM
Really 300+ BTC as a minimum for opening a casino? I see so many popping up (at least dice), do they all have that much?

Of course not. Some are built as Moneypot apps and the owners don't need any bankroll for the site to work. Some are built as a standalone site but is only accepting small bets, while some take bankroll investment and thus the owners only need to contribute a relatively small amount themselves.

Now that makes more sense, because I see so many gambling sites, and it would be almost impossible that all of them had that much BTC I think.
sr. member
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October 20, 2015, 01:17:38 AM
if you have a decent idea and the funds people will definitely throw some money at you, I always wondered why no one ever made a 0.1% house edge
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 12:57:49 AM
Hmm.. So basically if I wanted to try and let someone here me out, and only had around, say, 1.5 btc to start out with.. I'd be wasting my time, right?

It means if you want to start a gambling site then you will need huge budget to make it work or you will be wasting your time. Everyone think making gambling site means to get rich instantly but it is not because you need to spend budget and also your time , without that your gambling site will not work
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October 20, 2015, 12:44:32 AM
Hmm.. So basically if I wanted to try and let someone here me out, and only had around, say, 1.5 btc to start out with.. I'd be wasting my time, right?
NO, you are wasting other people time too ..lol
if you can code all on yourself and  do all other things with much less cost..still you need bankroll Huh unless you act as a broker.
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October 20, 2015, 12:38:07 AM
Pretty much all estimates in this topic are a joke :X Tongue

- $200 - $400 to develop a gambling site? "the coding can be done by anybody and it is easy"? Lmao. If you want to be hacked or scammed, that sounds right. But if you want a trusted and good developer, you can add some zeros to that amount and be surprised how difficult getting such developer is.

- $6 a month for a VPS? Can be... (my site easily runs on such VPS) but you can't expect to process millions of bets a day on that Tongue The bigger sites generally do pay hundreds of dollars a month for proper servers.

- PD earns 100 bitcoins a day? Tongue It's actually easy to have a theoretical estimation of profits. Just look at my site. HE *  wagered, easy. Variance can be more sick than you think though.

In addition people generally overestimate their genius ideas, no offense. Perhaps it doesn't exist yet because people don't care for it. And altho unique ideas can be awesome (like bustabit), sometimes people are hesitant to try something new.

Actually there are some unique games that I like, for example 64blocks.com - and it's even properly developed / good UI / etc. Still almost no traffic/players. Good unique idea, properly developed, trusted owner (Dabs), .... still no players. Just put in some "marketing" and "SEO" is also a lot harder than you think Tongue



Overall: people highly overestimate how easy it is to get a gambling site running with a decent amount of players.

I can state also from personal experience this is 100% correct. I have over 11 years in marketing and sales, closed deals for companies with several millions of Euro on the line. This by far is one of the hardest businesses to market and develop properly. Right now our casino is doing decent by this industry standards however, just to give you an idea from February to the current date; I alone (not including developer hours) have put in roughly 5200 hours this year in work. I spend quite a bit of time in conversation with casino owners in the fiat gambling industry as well and they too have similar time. Total cost to start BetterBets.io with developer hours was around 33k Euro and that's because my main dev is also one of my best friends and business partner.

The biggest misconception is that this is some simple way to get rich on Bitcoin when in fact it could not be further from the truth. You will have to work harder than your day job and spend countless hours trying to develop a long term strategy to keep players happy.

Edit: This business is a labor of love for those who not only care about their casino but the promotion and services that back Bitcoin itself.
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October 20, 2015, 12:29:38 AM
Slightly relevant, a couple weeks ago this guy approaches me to build him a casino. I told him I'm not really in the business of building casinos for other people, but he insisted that he needed someone he could trust to build it and he'd make it worth my while. So I decided to hear him out, and he explained his idea, and showed me his mockups. It seemed all pretty reasonable, and quite simple. Something that could probably be done in a month. So after a long speech, he finally started talking about consideration, and said that he'd be willing to pay 20, 10 before and 10 after it was done.

So I'm thinking I don't really have the energy to spend a month on someone else's project for 20 btc, but 20k USD on the other hand is something I'd have trouble turning down. So I asked him to clarify. No, $20. As in $20.00. Apparently he already has the idea and the mockup, so i just need to make it work. At that point I politely ended the conversation, and wished him luck finding someone else. (Which seems to be a good negotiating tactic, he later emailed me a 50% increase in the offer)



(Anyway, I don't mean to make fun of him. Many people are unaware of much energy, time, skill and care needs to go into coding. I get the impression that some people believe you just load up a form, tick a few boxes upload a config file and you're done)

Hmm.. So basically if I wanted to try and let someone here me out, and only had around, say, 1.5 btc to start out with.. I'd be wasting my time, right?
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October 19, 2015, 11:47:45 PM
Making a website is to long to make then also css design database and scripts...... I think you need a capital around 4000$ .
maybe it is a good estimation for making a website  but i doubt we are here to build one ? there is a big difference between just a website and a gambling casino...its a business ,investment ...etc..not just simple website.
legendary
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October 19, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
Overall: people highly overestimate how easy it is to get a gambling site running with a decent amount of players.

People just thought that if they have gambling site then people will come in and put their money there and play.

I welcome all of you people to check moneypot and see from 600++ apps there how many apps is a success there. Some of the featured apps in there has a very little activity as well and most of the owner is not making anything
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October 19, 2015, 11:30:57 PM
Pretty much all estimates in this topic are a joke :X Tongue

- $200 - $400 to develop a gambling site? "the coding can be done by anybody and it is easy"? Lmao. If you want to be hacked or scammed, that sounds right. But if you want a trusted and good developer, you can add some zeros to that amount and be surprised how difficult getting such developer is.

- $6 a month for a VPS? Can be... (my site easily runs on such VPS) but you can't expect to process millions of bets a day on that Tongue The bigger sites generally do pay hundreds of dollars a month for proper servers.

- PD earns 100 bitcoins a day? Tongue It's actually easy to have a theoretical estimation of profits. Just look at my site. HE *  wagered, easy. Variance can be more sick than you think though.

In addition people generally overestimate their genius ideas, no offense. Perhaps it doesn't exist yet because people don't care for it. And altho unique ideas can be awesome (like bustabit), sometimes people are hesitant to try something new.

Actually there are some unique games that I like, for example 64blocks.com - and it's even properly developed / good UI / etc. Still almost no traffic/players. Good unique idea, properly developed, trusted owner (Dabs), .... still no players. Just put in some "marketing" and "SEO" is also a lot harder than you think Tongue



Overall: people highly overestimate how easy it is to get a gambling site running with a decent amount of players.
legendary
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October 19, 2015, 10:21:54 PM
If you want to create the same old gambling site without bringing anything new to the table then not sure. But there will always be room for unique and innovative ways to gamble. I don't particular like same old house edge casinos or dice site, they provide a service that sometimes is good for quick fun but in the end you'll lose. Fantasy draft leagues are hot right now (not in Bitcoin but you know, FanDuel, etc), sports betting is a good option if you create one with a twist, etc.

It's just how you market the idea and the usability, if you create something very easy and appealing to use you'll be miles ahead of the competition.

Yes starting a innovative new gambling sites would be more profitable than starting alt coin exchanges.
People always will be ready to gamble if they find funny things rather than profitable gambling. Many people are here who just gambling only for pleasure and joy not for making profits.
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