Starting a thread design service - any demand?

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 11, 2017, 09:30:08 AM

Oh, by the way, might as well ask this here.
How do members look at trusted vs untrusted feedback?
From what I understand trusted feedback is only from staff / high level members, so untrusted feedback is fine as well right?
It just doesn't show at your trust level near your post.

A trusted member is not necessarily to have green trusted points under his name. A trusted member is a member with good activity on this forum, who is old(activity on forum) and helps members. Also a trusted member is someone who made a lot of successful transactions with bitcoins and not only. So you gain trust through time, by being active on this forum and helping newbies with advices on how to use bitcoin and how to make quality posts

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Oh, by the way, might as well ask this here.
How do members look at trusted vs untrusted feedback?
From what I understand trusted feedback is only from staff / high level members, so untrusted feedback is fine as well right?
It just doesn't show at your trust level near your post.

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There is a big demand for services like yours because everyday people open new ICO's and most of them are looking for a designer here on bitcointalk forum. In the last time people saw there is a big demand for this and a lot of them are offering the same service now.

What will make the difference is the quality,the price and the promotion you are going to make because the competition is big. I would recommend to offer some discounts since you are new here , maybe a free service for one person so you can gain some trust and reputation because thats what people are looking for. I wish you good luck

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Quote from: Fire Rabbit on November 09, 2017, 05:53:51 PM

Just saw your design. Its really good. Let me tell you something, since you dont have a good rank in this forum as well as no trust level you will find it difficult to get the clients at the begining. For that first you have to establish a positive trust level and name in this forum and also you should offer your services for discounted price. It will be good if you offer some vouch or free service to others. Its a sort of publicity for your service.

Thank you. Also thanks for the comment, I'm sure I'll be at least Jr. Member once I open a service. Will have to see about discounts/vouches when the time comes.
I plan on opening a service around the first week of December.

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Just saw your design. Its really good. Let me tell you something, since you dont have a good rank in this forum as well as no trust level you will find it difficult to get the clients at the begining. For that first you have to establish a positive trust level and name in this forum and also you should offer your services for discounted price. It will be good if you offer some vouch or free service to others. Its a sort of publicity for your service.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 05, 2017, 05:34:06 PM

I'm sure that there is huge demand for design services - you take a look at crazy activity in ICO market.
From what you posted - it looks like you can make high quality thread designs. It's good, because now mostly Altcoin announcements looks like it would be made on the same template. I'm not saying that current designs of threads looks bad, but it would be great to see something new

For sure, looking at the activity that's going around with crypto currencies in general..
Not a bad time to do something with it ^_^

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I'm sure that there is huge demand for design services - you take a look at crazy activity in ICO market.
From what you posted - it looks like you can make high quality thread designs. It's good, because now mostly Altcoin announcements looks like it would be made on the same template. I'm not saying that current designs of threads looks bad, but it would be great to see something new

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Quote from: crazyivan on November 04, 2017, 07:27:13 AM

Very nice, could you please send me your pricing and a bit more info about your portfolio, if possible.

I would, but I won't start any service for at least a couple more weeks, because I have personal projects I'm working on.
So when the time comes, I'll look back at this thread and if you're still in need of a designer by then I'll be happy to shoot you a message Wink

Definitely appreciate the comments I've received thus far, thanks all.
@dothebeats I will also see if I can offer BBCode signatures, I'll look into that nonetheless.

Also while I work on other things and before I open any service I'll use the forum to gain some more knowledge.
It seems that I'll have to get Jr. Member first if I want to post my own thread with images or I'll have to have someone host it for me.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 03:53:44 PM

Quote from: tabas on November 02, 2017, 03:32:15 PM

It looks like you've got a high standards so good luck with the competition if you think the quality of thread design's here aren't really high. I'm not a designer myself but I can say that those designers thread out there are focusing more with their designs and their threads are just a plus.

Obviously don't want to be too negative and I must say I've seen some nice designs, but I do indeed feel there's room for improvement.
I must say I'm quite the perfectionist, since I often think I can do better, so that can work against me too ^_^

I think after getting once through all those competitors who really came on this forum long time ago, before you, and who already set high standards for thread design - you are going to stay here for a long time, cause of those kind of design which you suggest can be in demand. Good luck!

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This is your sample image that you mentioned is 8000px tall. As for character limitations in SMF, it usually cuts off any text that exceeded 61000 character count. Also, threads are usually embedded with GIFs and images so I think there would be a great market for you in here, especially for those in the Altcoin Announcement sections. Since you're already into designing stuff, you can also learn BBCode designs which are used for signatures. It's also a good market and you can provide awesome designs and compete with roslinpl and the likes.

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Very nice, could you please send me your pricing and a bit more info about your portfolio, if possible.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on November 04, 2017, 05:29:16 AM

If you do see that those quality isnt too good into your eyes then you would really able to say into yourself that you do have potential to keep up on those old timers and as being suggested just stay low on your rates so that they might able to consider you. Dont worry on the demand since it is always present on here as you can see theres lots of projects do pop out. Just do the basic start up and do the best as you can and you might really get some popularity later on.

I've read all of what he said here and he's quite a perfectionist.

Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 03:53:44 PM

I must say I'm quite the perfectionist,

And also he has the way of thinking that he can do better and I can't blame him on that attitude. He clearly wants a competition on creating more designs.

Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 03:53:44 PM

since I often think I can do better, so that can work against me too ^_^

Well of course there's a respect for the legend designers here on forum and there are plenty of them.
@Wunderkind why not start your own thread already on the services section with your offer even you've got posting image limit? Your design looks impressive.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 03:20:10 PM

Quote from: npredtorch on November 02, 2017, 09:24:04 AM

Demand? There is! A huge demand considering how many ICO and projects are sprouting each day. Problem is, the competition is tough. You'll see that there are already some reputable bctalk designers here like Jayce (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jayce-designs-logo-avatar-signature-banner-etc-1142066) and SFR(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/logo-signature-banner-ads-avatar-free-thread-designing-1136108) which gives you lower chances to be hired for work (factors: reputation + rank).

I guess a good way for you start here is to lower your rates than your competitions.
Start low then make an increase if you have already prove something here (quality of your designs are good so there's no problem with that).

You can also list yourself here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-designerssignatureavataretc-last-update-15-aug-2018-1610428

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it.
Looks like the quality of thread designs isn't really that high around here, so I definitely see potential there.
Also thanks for the listing link.

If you do see that those quality isnt too good into your eyes then you would really able to say into yourself that you do have potential to keep up on those old timers and as being suggested just stay low on your rates so that they might able to consider you. Dont worry on the demand since it is always present on here as you can see theres lots of projects do pop out. Just do the basic start up and do the best as you can and you might really get some popularity later on.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 03, 2017, 09:24:58 AM

One question I had, and I think I already know the answer.
It looks like signatures are not images, and are made of pure HTML and inline CSS right?

Because as a developer that might also be something I could also start doing in the future.

Edit: looks like I found the answer already.

Signatures are pure BBcodes but you can still put an image with but with those codes. And it's a good future plan for you of doing that career since many campaigns are also requiring their signature and looking for someone to develop it.

This will help you out a tutorial/lesson for bbcodes made by roslinpl [LEARN] BBCode Lessons & Tutorials [+tutorial videos!]
Since you are thread designer, it's a good combination if you'll start making signatures too.

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One question I had, and I think I already know the answer.
It looks like signatures are not images, and are made of pure HTML and inline CSS right?

Because as a developer that might also be something I could also start doing in the future.

Edit: looks like I found the answer already.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 01, 2017, 04:43:54 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm a (web) designer and developer. I've only recently registered my account here, but I've been designing threads for services in the past elsewhere.
Just looking to get some information regarding threads here. Is there a demand for fully designed threads?

Here's an example of a thread design I created in the past:
https://i.imgur.com/nE51qXL.png

I'm not familiar with the limits regarding posting images on this forum. Above image is almost 8000 pixels tall. Could someone post an image like this?
Or can certain members post images, but with certain limits?

I'm looking to maybe start a service in the future where I design threads, mostly for [ANN] I would expect.
Hopefully I'll get some replies to get some insight in the demand. Maybe share average prices that are going around for announcement threads, etc.

Cheers,

Wunderkind

There is a really high demand here mate specially with the skills that you have. Although you might be expecting a higher pay, though I don't know how much a designer is getting around but I'm sure its very high and competitive. Even signature creation here is very demanding because there are a lot of campaign popping up every month. So can create your own design thread here and maybe some manager can see your design and hire you. Goodluck.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 03:53:44 PM

Quote from: tabas on November 02, 2017, 03:32:15 PM

It looks like you've got a high standards so good luck with the competition if you think the quality of thread design's here aren't really high. I'm not a designer myself but I can say that those designers thread out there are focusing more with their designs and their threads are just a plus.

Obviously don't want to be too negative and I must say I've seen some nice designs, but I do indeed feel there's room for improvement.
I must say I'm quite the perfectionist, since I often think I can do better, so that can work against me too ^_^

I consider those designers that are here on forum are real life professionals and extending their skills to offer it here. You've got a nice personality since this is an industry where you do really have to compete with others, well good luck with your thread designing service soon.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 07:27:26 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 02, 2017, 05:55:38 PM

Checking out the thread you've made, you have the edge to compete with those professional thread designers themselves at the services section.

And I like the color combination of that example thread you've given. Are you depending to the color that was demanded by the company or you are the one that's deciding for them?

Trying to help you out with the size of image per thread but I haven't seen on the meta section that there's a thread for that or I didn't just dig the latter part.

Thanks. Regarding the example thread I linked and your questions.
I decided on those colors. Usually at the start of a project I ask clients about their preferences (i.e. dark/light layout), if they already have existing graphics or if there are certain colors they'd like to work with, etc. Most of the time I'm not given specific requirements with complete freedom to design something.

Also couldn't find anything regarding image limitations myself, so I don't think there are any real limitation.
Except that you have to be Jr. Member to post images if I'm correct.

Don't mention it.

That's good and you've got unique color combination this is where the attracting part starts when the color combination isn't that blurry while becoming catchy to the eyes.

No limits on the size I can see some threads that are even converting their whole thread together with the contents into an image.

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Quote from: Wunderkind on November 02, 2017, 07:27:26 PM

Also couldn't find anything regarding image limitations myself, so I don't think there are any real limitation.
Except that you have to be Jr. Member to post images if I'm correct.

Yes, you must be a Jr. Member first before posting an image as theymos says here

Quote from: theymos on September 06, 2015, 03:35:15 PM

When the poster becomes a Jr member, the images that he tried to post previously will automatically be re-enabled

And with regards to the size of the image I tried to search it but there's no result and checking out the Bounties (Altcoins) section where there are so many image on the threads. I guess there's no exact size limit on the image for each thread that you can do. You can check it and compare your image sizes.

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 02, 2017, 05:55:38 PM

Checking out the thread you've made, you have the edge to compete with those professional thread designers themselves at the services section.

And I like the color combination of that example thread you've given. Are you depending to the color that was demanded by the company or you are the one that's deciding for them?

Trying to help you out with the size of image per thread but I haven't seen on the meta section that there's a thread for that or I didn't just dig the latter part.

Thanks. Regarding the example thread I linked and your questions.
I decided on those colors. Usually at the start of a project I ask clients about their preferences (i.e. dark/light layout), if they already have existing graphics or if there are certain colors they'd like to work with, etc. Most of the time I'm not given specific requirements with complete freedom to design something.

Also couldn't find anything regarding image limitations myself, so I don't think there are any real limitation.
Except that you have to be Jr. Member to post images if I'm correct.

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