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Topic: State of Vermont ( Single Payer Healthcare ) puts Obamacare to shame!! (Read 2418 times)

legendary
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legendary
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Very interesting topic
However, different opinions..... Huh
Different opinions?  I would hope so.

Because....

Translated:  Something that doesn't exist (Vermontcare) is far better than something that now exists (Obamacare).

In logic, that's called an "Irrefutable hypothesis".

There should be different opinions when a logical error that allows "proving anything is true" exists.

Anything is not true.

Then again..... 

I am nobody. 
Nobody is perfect. 
I'm perfect.

Now shut up.

LOL....
newbie
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Very interesting topic
However, different opinions..... Huh
legendary
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Covered California is awesome

Fuck lazy ass states that used fed exchange
legendary
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Good for Vermont. Almost %80 of Americans support medicare for all.
Man, you know how cool it is?  All that free stuff???

You can get you some, too.

If you play it right.
newbie
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Good for Vermont. Almost %80 of Americans support medicare for all.
legendary
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California's is pretty good too
Only the lazy states that didn't setup their own got screwed the federal site
legendary
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Obama would have loved single payer but the republicans and insurance companies would never go for it.  So they are actually the ones who came up with obamacare.

Mmuuhhahahahaha!

Indeed.  By this logic Obama came up with the Iraq War II.
legendary
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Obama would have loved single payer but the republicans and insurance companies would never go for it.  So they are actually the ones who came up with obamacare.

Mmuuhhahahahaha!
legendary
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Obama would have loved single payer but the republicans and insurance companies would never go for it.  So they are actually the ones who came up with obamacare.
No, sorry.  Ain't no way something named "OBamacare" is bush's.  It'be "Bushcare" and it ain't.

Back to the title of the OP which is quite interesting.

Re: State of Vermont ( Single Payer Healthcare ) puts Obamacare to shame!!


Translated:  Something that doesn't exist (Vermontcare) is far better than something that now exists (Obamacare).

In logic, that's called an "Irrefutable hypothesis".
legendary
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The NHS works extremely well and leads to much better health outcomes overall as compared to the US system.

Indeed, very err... efficient:
Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely ...l

Interesting that the above bolded argument, recently repeated over and over when ObamaFuckedUpCare was a future thing, is now being repeated over and over as a support for Vermontcare.

I guess if something is off in the future and the goal is to sell the people on the fantasy, most any old argument will do nicely.  Just as long as it's repeated.

And I want a Carl's Jr Burger!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfo5gPG72KM
legendary
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VT is becoming more & more socialist by the day it seems. The only way to solve the issues caused by government intervention in the health care industry is to remove the government entirely from the health care industry. But you know who'd never allow that? The largest & most influential ($$$) players in the health care industry who have, over the years, authored most of the legislation which has caused the cost of health care to skyrocket. For their own benefit.

Being a fucking cheerleader for those who are raping as many as they can of as much as they can for as long as they can is simply bad form.

Hmm.

You need to make your mind up.  Either its OK to profit from someone being too sick to negotiate or its not.  If you think its OK then you are for the "raping" you complain of.  If you think its not, then you are for the single payer option you complain of.
So you're for socialist cheerleaders with bad form?

You advocate criminalising parents who import drugs for their sick children.  Until you find a rationalisation for that, what do you care about other health issues?

Has it occurred to you that what you actually are doing...

is playing 'socialist cheerleader?'

with 'bad form?'

Google 'ad hominem' and then make an intelligent point please? The subject is single payer healthcare.
legendary
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VT is becoming more & more socialist by the day it seems. The only way to solve the issues caused by government intervention in the health care industry is to remove the government entirely from the health care industry. But you know who'd never allow that? The largest & most influential ($$$) players in the health care industry who have, over the years, authored most of the legislation which has caused the cost of health care to skyrocket. For their own benefit.

Being a fucking cheerleader for those who are raping as many as they can of as much as they can for as long as they can is simply bad form.

Hmm.

You need to make your mind up.  Either its OK to profit from someone being too sick to negotiate or its not.  If you think its OK then you are for the "raping" you complain of.  If you think its not, then you are for the single payer option you complain of.
So you're for socialist cheerleaders with bad form?

You advocate criminalising parents who import drugs for their sick children.  Until you find a rationalisation for that, what do you care about other health issues?

Has it occurred to you that what you actually are doing...

is playing 'socialist cheerleader?'

with 'bad form?'
cp1
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Stop using branwallets
Obama would have loved single payer but the republicans and insurance companies would never go for it.  So they are actually the ones who came up with obamacare.
legendary
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VT is becoming more & more socialist by the day it seems. The only way to solve the issues caused by government intervention in the health care industry is to remove the government entirely from the health care industry. But you know who'd never allow that? The largest & most influential ($$$) players in the health care industry who have, over the years, authored most of the legislation which has caused the cost of health care to skyrocket. For their own benefit.

Being a fucking cheerleader for those who are raping as many as they can of as much as they can for as long as they can is simply bad form.

Hmm.

You need to make your mind up.  Either its OK to profit from someone being too sick to negotiate or its not.  If you think its OK then you are for the "raping" you complain of.  If you think its not, then you are for the single payer option you complain of.
So you're for socialist cheerleaders with bad form?

You advocate criminalising parents who import drugs for their sick children.  Until you find a rationalisation for that, what do you care about other health issues?
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1386
VT is becoming more & more socialist by the day it seems. The only way to solve the issues caused by government intervention in the health care industry is to remove the government entirely from the health care industry. But you know who'd never allow that? The largest & most influential ($$$) players in the health care industry who have, over the years, authored most of the legislation which has caused the cost of health care to skyrocket. For their own benefit.

Being a fucking cheerleader for those who are raping as many as they can of as much as they can for as long as they can is simply bad form.

Hmm.

You need to make your mind up.  Either its OK to profit from someone being too sick to negotiate or its not.  If you think its OK then you are for the "raping" you complain of.  If you think its not, then you are for the single payer option you complain of.
So you're for socialist cheerleaders with bad form?
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
VT is becoming more & more socialist by the day it seems. The only way to solve the issues caused by government intervention in the health care industry is to remove the government entirely from the health care industry. But you know who'd never allow that? The largest & most influential ($$$) players in the health care industry who have, over the years, authored most of the legislation which has caused the cost of health care to skyrocket. For their own benefit.

Being a fucking cheerleader for those who are raping as many as they can of as much as they can for as long as they can is simply bad form.

Hmm.

You need to make your mind up.  Either its OK to profit from someone being too sick to negotiate or its not.  If you think its OK then you are for the "raping" you complain of.  If you think its not, then you are for the single payer option you complain of.
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VT is becoming more & more socialist by the day it seems. The only way to solve the issues caused by government intervention in the health care industry is to remove the government entirely from the health care industry. But you know who'd never allow that? The largest & most influential ($$$) players in the health care industry who have, over the years, authored most of the legislation which has caused the cost of health care to skyrocket. For their own benefit.

Being a fucking cheerleader for those who are raping as many as they can of as much as they can for as long as they can is simply bad form.
legendary
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It's valid, but what I am telling you is that palliative care is fraught with these sorts of decisions no matter how healthcare is paid for in a given country.
Naw, you just set up Death Panels to handle that problem.  Then you staff them with connected people so that you can exert some, you know, pull, like when a child of a major contributor to the Pary is seriously sick.

The Pull Factor is very important in getting the Death Panels to function correctly.  Also it's important to see that the rank and file of Government Employees, as well as Congressmen and Senators, plus their staff, have a different health care system than the common man.

Would you like more details on how to get it all to work - correctly?

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It's valid, but what I am telling you is that palliative care is fraught with these sorts of decisions no matter how healthcare is paid for in a given country.
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