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Op, from your explanation you sounded like someone who's already had experience with wallet and security, I wonder why you had to involve a third party to handle your pending transaction when you can possibly ask questions here or through Google to get the problem solved, your story may be true but if you had pending transactions that involves sending screenshots of your wallet and some personal information that could lead to another person having access to your wallet, I think you need to have a change of wallet because you never know if you have sent an information that you are not supposed 5o send because you appear to be restless from your post because you suspect that the person you reached out for help has had some information about your account that you don't really know so to avoid lost of funds, it is better you handle little issues with this by yourself or by someone whom you really trust, though don't give a total trust to anyone when it involves your account, your wallet and your privacy.
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Don't let anyone help you out on crypto wallet.

If there is anything you don't understand about crypto wallet, do research on your own, ask questions on the forum and you will be guide right.

Crypto wallets are supposed to be created without the presence of your friends and even your family members, they must be private.

This is an exchange wallet and no seed phrase is available that his friend can copy and access his wallet. He should just be wary of the informations he was sending to him, and shouldn’t let him have or see the information that can be used to access his wallet. Email, phone numbers or user ID should be kept private from him because if he has access to them, getting the passwords can be guessed if he’s very close to you or can use phishing links through your email or number to make you give out your login details out of ignorance. So be careful with activities like this in your wallet including a third party.

After this, what did you learn? Your lesson shouldn't be just about being alert when someone helps you with a wallet issue. Your lesson should be to start doing your own research, taking courses on bitcoin, cryptocurrency, and wallets so that you don't have to put yourself in a position where you suspect your friends.

Oh nice idea, if he can stick to that also, it’ll help reduce asking others for help or guide which in real sense it is not bad if you trust the person in question but just need to be cautious about it. Going for more research about crypto and bitcoin is something everyone does or loves to do, but when it comes to some part, they still have to engage those who are better than them for the first time in order to get a grasp of it from that time henceforth. What he was taught is a lesson research on its own, he won’t ask again next time and have learned new thing.
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Okay, so let me understand this.

You encountered a problem and couldn't solve it. You reached out to a friend whom I assume you trust. But then you started becoming suspicious of this person even though you knew they were the one among your circle of friends who could help you out.

After this, what did you learn? Your lesson shouldn't be just about being alert when someone helps you with a wallet issue. Your lesson should be to start doing your own research, taking courses on bitcoin, cryptocurrency, and wallets so that you don't have to put yourself in a position where you suspect your friends.
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Don't let anyone help you out on crypto wallet.

If there is anything you don't understand about crypto wallet, do research on your own, ask questions on the forum and you will be guide right.

Crypto wallets are supposed to be created without the presence of your friends and even your family members, they must be private.


You know this advice of not wanting anyone to help you out in the crypto space is actually for someone who already has direction already. For example this forum will be a perfect please to at least get the members help you but how do some people find way to this forum? It is still through some friends or family members. Also there are some things that some individuals actually need guidance because they hardly grasp some things just through reading. So I will rather say after a friend guides you on something, try back testing or recreating that same thing again and move your funds outta your wallet.
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I just want to say that doing trades or moving funds in and out of exchange is not at all a complicated process, exchange made it very simple and the only thing we need to do is just copy paste. So just get yourself familiar with that then you won't be in need of help from anyone.
As others pointed out, don't trust your money with anyone but what you did is not really risky you just asked for a guidance and the person at the other end has no way of taking your money, but keep out always.
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Don't let anyone help you out on crypto wallet.

If there is anything you don't understand about crypto wallet, do research on your own, ask questions on the forum and you will be guide right.

Crypto wallets are supposed to be created without the presence of your friends and even your family members, they must be private.

I happen to know someone who asked a friend to help him to open a crypto wallet and this same person lost all his assets weeks later, since I advised him to never ask anyone to help him open a crypto wallet he has never lost his assets again.
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This is a good reminder for most of the newbies. When some of my friends asks me about this, I'm giving a disclaimer as soon as they've asked me anything related to crypto. First, that I'll never earn anything from them unless I give them a referral link of mine which I don't usually do. Next, is that the private keys or seed phrases shouldn't be given to anyone even if the intention of the person they're talking to is good about helping them. It should be only them that must know that information because if it's given away then they should just say goodbye to their hardearned asset. It is the reason why it is important to learn even the simplest and most basic thing about wallets and newbies shouldn't trust anybody quickly if the matter is about them helping about wallets and always verify what's being taught to you guys.
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Meanwhile as I'm not so conversant with crypto wallets yet, while I was taking down those instructions from him, I was attentive to catch up any misconceptions of him sending me a wallet that's not mine and asked me to paste at the relevant place where I'm to direct my fund to because the process was so technical of copying and pasting of my wallets, going front and back. Oh damn. I was also attentive so that I don't feel so loosed of myself if Incase he ask me to send my seed phase so that he can check out what's really the issue but though he didn't do any of those suspects.
If I am your friend, and I find out that while you asked for my help, you were highly suspicious of me, I will not be willing to help you later when you need my help again.
Instead of me to render my help next time, I will help show you the place where you can get the knowledge of how to do it yourself which is the best.

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If you are that many newies who do not know the difference between sharing the address and sharing the seed phrases, then you should learn before you invest on a large scale. You cannot rely on others or your friends. In this story, you said that you asked for help. Your friend did not knock you to help but you were the first to ask for help.

If you cannot trust him even though you haven't shared your seed pharse, you should not ask for the help. If some of my friend ask for a help and later see me with suspicion, I won't help such friend in the future. Ask for help only if you trust me otherwise don't ask for help. Do your own research and do it for yourself.
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.Meanwhile as I'm not so conversant with crypto wallets yet, while I was taking down those instructions from him, I was attentive to catch up any misconceptions of him sending me a wallet that's not mine and asked me to paste at the relevant place where I'm to direct my fund to because the process was so technical of copying and pasting of my wallets, going front and back. Oh damn. I was also attentive so that I don't feel so loosed of myself if Incase he ask me to send my seed phase so that he can check out what's really the issue but though he didn't do any of those suspects.
When it comes to wallet you have to be extremely careful even as a novice because the person putting you through on what to do is experience and you don't have to trust anyone when it is matter about your wallet.  Their is no help you can't get online when you do your own research. The challenge you are going through of not understanding somethings about the wallet,  if you take your time make research and read you will get the understanding you want. This may take sometime trying to get better understanding but it is better than when you meet someone you don't really know the intention of what may happen.  For safety of your fund learn more on how to solve problems that is concerned with your wallet.  It is not difficult and you can do if you really want to solve it your self.
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You must have a minimum level of knowledge to distinguish between what could be deception and fraud and what your friend can help you with or even the support team from the platform, and if they ask you for your password or verification data, you should not give it to them.
Therefore, investing in cryptocurrencies without a minimum of knowledge may lead you to lose your investments, either through a fraudster or giving them to a friend so that he can help you and withdraw those currencies after a week or a month.
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I don’t know what exchange you’re using but P2P transactions are quite straightforward in most exchanges. Any problem you encounter can be resolved by sending a message to the support team or you could search on google for how to fix the problem. Like in most situations, the information needed to solve the problem is available on the internet yet people are more than willing to risk their privacy and their funds to avoid doing their own research.

I did not see you mention anything about the problem you had or the steps you took to solve the issue.

I really hope that with screenshots you made and shared with your friend, there is no screenshot with your wallet mnemonic seed or private key.
OP did say he was cautious not to give out his seed phrase or private key. Also his friend didn’t ask for it. I wonder if OP would have declined his help if he did. 
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The only thing you should be careful about is not sharing your seed phrase and private key with anyone. Those are the only ways to enter and access your wallets and transfer funds out of it, if you don't share those with anyone then you're totally safe.

You should also be careful to not send any funds to a wallet address that's not yours because most crypto transactions are irreversible and sending your funds to a unknown wallet will lead to loss of those funds. Never trust anyone with your sensitive data, and never install software that someone sends you.

Your crypto wallets are just like your bank accounts, but with wallets you're the owner of everything however with bank accounts you are just controlling the account with limits and restrictions set out of higher authority. So always keep your crypto wallets, their seed phrases, and private keys safe.
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OP, a topic for children. You are an adult, hopefully, and should understand that anything you do on the Internet can easily become a trap, especially when it comes to your finances. Therefore, learn on your own; you don’t need these problems with sending screenshots; such things can end up not only with your “trusted” friend. If you understand what needs to be done, check everything many times; if not, then study without haste. But the very raising of such a topic unnecessarily should be obvious to normal people, and is simply not worth a thousand words.
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Learn everything you want to learn from him, but do not trust a soul with your money, in the past history books many powerful men were betrayed by their friends, even families, do not add up to that list all because you trust someone.

I am not saying that you have a bad friend but they can lose their senses when it comes to money, just for safety precaution, after everything is done between you two, create a new crypto wallet and send your assets into the new wallet you just created.

Do not take screenshots of your wallet seed.

Keep your recovery seed to yourself only, in a safe offline location.

Cloud storages or any online space like email are bad idea for storing recovery seeds.
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It's good to take precautionary measures when you're doing money transactions, no matter the person that's involved, whether it's a friend or stranger, especially when you're sharing your sensitive personal information. The person might not use your information to scam you, it could be a third party that got access to the person's information, that is why you should've asked him to delete the screenshot that you shared with him or if you think that some information sent to him can compromise your wallet, then it's best to move your coins from it.
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Meanwhile as I'm not so conversant with crypto wallets yet, while I was taking down those instructions from him

It's more reason why you should start learning them now, while it's still very early. Sometimes I see a lot of high ranked members on the forum asking questions that I expected to be answered by them but then I remember that no one is an island of knowledge. We all can learn at anytime but the best time to learn these things is at the very start when you are just getting into crypto. This way, no one will be able to decive you or anything. And in your case, you would not be looking for a friends help.

At my early stage, when I newly got into cryptocurrency, i had only a few friends who knew the basics. I learned from them, starting with how to create a wallet and keep my seeds safe. Joining this forum helped me understand everything better. Now, I teach others about wallets who don't know much. If I hadn't been eager to learn early on, I wouldn't be able to do this.
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So I hope some person's who are not conversant with operating their assets wallets would always be careful and sensitive whenever someone is playing helping role on your wallet.
As long as my instincts could whisper me Such though, then it's assumed to possibly happen even though non of us here has fallen victim of it.
Careful newbies and careful all

For beginners, ask for advice from people you know and know if it is the best choice. but still, a good mentor will not force him to get or know what he is not supposed to know.
I also got a mentor and my friend to open an exchange account and even how to trade. but he always doesn't want to know anything related to my account or wallet. he gives me what I ask and directs me, but he knows the boundaries of what he needs to know and what he doesn't.
what we need to be aware of is this. Choosing a mentor or anyone is indeed difficult. Especially when it comes to money, we still have to be wary of everything.
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sending me a wallet that's not mine and asked me to paste at the relevant place where I'm to direct my fund to because the process was so technical of copying and pasting of my wallets, going front and back.
I smell fishy here.
Remember the golden rule in crypto "Not your key, Not your coins".

First, may I ask a question?
Did you trust this friend?  Do you have contact with him?
If so, that sounds safe but don't trust it at all.

If your fund or crypto is stocked on the exchange, you must pull them out to the wallet that you're the only one that has control over it.
Learn more about how to create a wallet and how it works.
https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet?step=1
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Today I got stocked of my fund in an exchange wallet which I couldn't process my intended P2P transaction due to where the fund was sent and it required processes which I couldn't help myself out of it. So I contacted a friend and he was guiding me all through by sharing my wallet pages with him through screenshots so that the instructions would be easier to follow.
It actually went successfully and I appreciated his efforts.

Meanwhile as I'm not so conversant with crypto wallets yet, while I was taking down those instructions from him, I was attentive to catch up any misconceptions of him sending me a wallet that's not mine and asked me to paste at the relevant place where I'm to direct my fund to because the process was so technical of copying and pasting of my wallets, going front and back. Oh damn. I was also attentive so that I don't feel so loosed of myself if Incase he ask me to send my seed phase so that he can check out what's really the issue but though he didn't do any of those suspects.

I basically brought it this up here because such suspectiousness is possible to happen and those who're easily trusted, those who're not familiar with wallets and even some person's could just say "oh damn I'm tired of this whole thing, the fund is kind of lost maybe I should just ignore any risk for the lost of a hopeless fund that seems unrecoverable" and then, such person could be loose guarded by failing such of the suspects victims.
So I hope some person's who are not conversant with operating their assets wallets would always be careful and sensitive whenever someone is playing helping role on your wallet.
As long as my instincts could whisper me Such though, then it's assumed to possibly happen even though non of us here has fallen victim of it.
Careful newbies and careful all
You said you contacted your friend to help you out, that means you know the person very well and his whereabout. Before you called him your friend it means both of you have shared lots of things in common. But it's a good thing he didn't ask for your seed phrase and you were attentive to details. Irrespective of who the person is the moment they start asking for seed phrase know that something is wrong. Just politely tell the person that you can handle things from here and end the conversations. Using of wallets are not very hard. Sometimes we can learn all these things ourselves with the help of YouTube videos that are posted by professionals.
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