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He was bankrupt in the end though. The rules were changed because of what he had done which looks like not really cheating but just bulk-buying tickets with every possible combination.

I guess he used his money to pay the lawyers for years fighting the case. I think if you win the lottery for once in your life, you shouldn't try your luck again because if you win again, the CIA and FBI will investigate you for winning again.  
I think that's unfair, should such an implementation stop us from seeking our fortunes from gambling? why not apply it to losing and winning, why should only the winner be followed up, if he buys randomly with the combination he did it is normal, and there is no cheating, it would be a shame if he had to go bankrupt

14 times. Who does that anyway, any government that runs a lottery will really be suspecting what he is doing that he won several times.  It is record-breaking and the government will look into whether someone from the inside made him win the lottery. Though proven he is not cheating, its best to just change the rules.

Yes, it's unfair but I'm guessing this is done to give opportunities to the rest who are hoping to win as well. And as long as this guy will have the chance to buy tickets in bulk, those hopefuls might not even buy one ticket for themselves.

Even 3x-5x would already giving out that alarm or would be having those questions in mind on how the heck this thing do happen? How much more in 14x consecutive on which those commissions would really be panicking and me throwing those accusations about cheating or whatever that they could throw about but since they have seen about mathematical logic and applications then it is really just that normal that there's nothing that could be charged  against him. Thing now is on how to changed up with those lottery rules whether they would really be limitting the same winners on the time
that it would be able to hit up 2x consecutive or something like this?  We do know about probabilities on which we know that when it comes to mathematical probabilities then there's no
way on avoiding it out. This is why limitations should really be that set rather.
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He is mathematician and the mindset of mathematician is logical because they use exact science, think rationally using logic and skills in combining various numbers or formulas that can produce accurate numbers.
This is skill that really cannot be denied or said to be fraud, but from this it is clear that lottery providers really feel panic if they go bankrupt because someone gets the jackpot very often.
It is not surprising that several lottery providers have made changes to their regulations, all of this is done to minimize the number of gamblers who are able to penetrate the algorithms they create randomly.

But what is clear is that not everyone or mathematicians can do it because it requires research and various trials to truly achieve success.
I think Stefan Mandel is one of the few people who has succeeded in using mathematics in gambling, hahaha he will be person who has the potential to cause bankruptcy for lottery providers or commissions.
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He was bankrupt in the end though. The rules were changed because of what he had done which looks like not really cheating but just bulk-buying tickets with every possible combination.

I guess he used his money to pay the lawyers for years fighting the case. I think if you win the lottery for once in your life, you shouldn't try your luck again because if you win again, the CIA and FBI will investigate you for winning again.  
I think that's unfair, should such an implementation stop us from seeking our fortunes from gambling? why not apply it to losing and winning, why should only the winner be followed up, if he buys randomly with the combination he did it is normal, and there is no cheating, it would be a shame if he had to go bankrupt

14 times. Who does that anyway, any government that runs a lottery will really be suspecting what he is doing that he won several times.  It is record-breaking and the government will look into whether someone from the inside made him win the lottery. Though proven he is not cheating, its best to just change the rules.

Yes, it's unfair but I'm guessing this is done to give opportunities to the rest who are hoping to win as well. And as long as this guy will have the chance to buy tickets in bulk, those hopefuls might not even buy one ticket for themselves.
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there is a thread posted about this guy, I also read on an article and posted on that thread on how he supposedly managed to win 14 times on the lottery (I am quoting the supposed step by step on how he did it below).

Here's the 6-step formula for how Mandel managed to make serious cash from the lottery

1. Calculate the total number of possible combinations. (For a lottery that requires you to pick six numbers from 1 to 40, that means 3,838,380 combinations.)

2.Find lotteries where the jackpot is three times or more the number of possible combinations.

3.Raise enough cash to pay for each combination. (Mandel rounded up 2,524 investors for his push to win the Virginia lottery.)

4.Print out millions of tickets with every combination. (This used to be legal. Now you would have to buy the tickets right from the store.)

5.Deliver the tickets to authorized lottery dealers.

6.Win the cash. And don't forget to pay your investors. (Mandel pocketed $97,000 after a $1.3 million win in 1987.)


I was thinking the same in able to do this kind of multiple win on a lottery. Lottery commissioner is just dumb enough to investigate on this since they don’t any rules to limit the number of ticket a person can hold.
Besides, the jackpot prize was supposed to be distributed anyway whoever won which I’m confused why the lottery commissioner consider this as problem on their side assuming that they are not in loss if same user won using a sure bet strategy.

The only danger on this strategy is when there is multiple winner that will split the prize. Like what happened on PH lottery that bunch of players won the jackpot.  Cheesy

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The lottery rules were changed to ban punters from bulk-buying tickets as well as the use of computer-generated tickets to ensure no one else could replicate Mandel's methods.

I think he was smart enough to think of buying bunch of tickets to give him much chance which he called "combinatorial condensation" but apart from that, he is such a risk taker who wanted to explore his mathematical prowess in the gambling world by combining numbers .

This is intriguing, maybe he ended as one of the big winners in the gambling world who later went bankrupt after trying his hands and luck in other endeavours. This seem to be an example of the lose on of gambling.
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He was bankrupt in the end though. The rules were changed because of what he had done which looks like not really cheating but just bulk-buying tickets with every possible combination.

I guess he used his money to pay the lawyers for years fighting the case. I think if you win the lottery for once in your life, you shouldn't try your luck again because if you win again, the CIA and FBI will investigate you for winning again. 
I think that's unfair, should such an implementation stop us from seeking our fortunes from gambling? why not apply it to losing and winning, why should only the winner be followed up, if he buys randomly with the combination he did it is normal, and there is no cheating, it would be a shame if he had to go bankrupt
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Sometimes I wonder if the lottery commissions cares about the interests of the stakers. The lottery commission wouldn't care if the stakers looses their stakes as a comprise of the lottery sites manipulating the systems program in a way that they can twart (redirect) one chances to redeem a prosperous winning but when a staker hits attractively huge in the lottery, all eyes Will be on deck checkmating and investigating if the stakers boycotted they lottery system for such a prominent winning.
Does it mean they never expected or wanted anyone to hit such value of winning in the first place?

Let's talk about one Mr Stefan Mandel, a Romania-Australian mathematician who succeeded to hit millions and thousands of US dollars for 14 consecutive times which has got the lottery commissions worried about the possibilities of his several hitting the jackpot which series of investigations has been engaged on him to find if he uses tricks to profer him the prosperities but he defended his winning strategies was at the virtues of implying mathematical logic terms while he picks his prediction numbers.
They basically craved on how they could charge him with a persecution that he cheated or using a trick in one way or the other because his winnings has been overwhelmed but after much investigations he was vindicated and walked out free from all the assorted negatives forces of the false accusations.
The cause of this mans prosperous hitting the jackpots without being indicted on any accusations has caused the lottery  to amend it's rules.
https://www.unilad.com/community/life/man-who-won-lottery-14-times-explains-how-941995-20240215

It should be believed that the lottery did this rule changes for their own favour and not considering the stwkeri

It was a flawed lottery or it is not possible to hit 14 times multimillion lotteries when playing them.Now I know that in 6 from 49 you need 13.900.000 tickets to get a sure win but the cost to get those tickets usually exceeds the biggest prize this lottery has to offer so it is a no go.The lottery we have here is 15 from 90 and it is almost impossible to win it in consecutive times yet many people have won it already through the years as it runs every week and every week a prize from 10.000 EUR to 150.000 EUR is gotten every week.

I see he had used a strategy,an algorithm number picking to get as many possible tickets to get the big win but the number of tickets to be less than the jackpot prize,I don't think he cheated,he only was favored by probability in this case.
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He was bankrupt in the end though. The rules were changed because of what he had done which looks like not really cheating but just bulk-buying tickets with every possible combination.

I guess he used his money to pay the lawyers for years fighting the case. I think if you win the lottery for once in your life, you shouldn't try your luck again because if you win again, the CIA and FBI will investigate you for winning again. 
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Wow, $97000 back in 1987 was a huge amount. It's a life changing amount for many people.
One thing I didn't understand is that, doesn't the total cost of all the combinations of tickets add up to more than the winning amount in the lottery ?
Why would anyone pay for a lottery out of their pockets if the total amount collected through selling these tickets is not more than the winning amount in lottery.
it's possible that he didn't buy all the possible combinations because he didn't have enough funds or there are missing information about that specific win, but as far as I know, he also won in 1992 where they printed about 7.1million tickets(which was every possible combination on that specific lottery) and he ended up winning the jackpot which was $27Million.

here's the article where I read his 1992 win
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-one-guy-won-the-lottery-14-times-2016-1
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there is a thread posted about this guy, I also read on an article and posted on that thread on how he supposedly managed to win 14 times on the lottery (I am quoting the supposed step by step on how he did it below).

Here's the 6-step formula for how Mandel managed to make serious cash from the lottery

1. Calculate the total number of possible combinations. (For a lottery that requires you to pick six numbers from 1 to 40, that means 3,838,380 combinations.)

2.Find lotteries where the jackpot is three times or more the number of possible combinations.

3.Raise enough cash to pay for each combination. (Mandel rounded up 2,524 investors for his push to win the Virginia lottery.)

4.Print out millions of tickets with every combination. (This used to be legal. Now you would have to buy the tickets right from the store.)

5.Deliver the tickets to authorized lottery dealers.

6.Win the cash. And don't forget to pay your investors. (Mandel pocketed $97,000 after a $1.3 million win in 1987.)


Wow, $97000 back in 1987 was a huge amount. It's a life changing amount for many people.
One thing I didn't understand is that, doesn't the total cost of all the combinations of tickets add up to more than the winning amount in the lottery ?
Why would anyone pay for a lottery out of their pockets if the total amount collected through selling these tickets is not more than the winning amount in lottery.
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Never played the lotto because that's what I believed, it's rigged. Most lotteries are national lottery or state lottery like in the US and if the government is the one deciding who will win the jackpot then, can we really trust that? This Mandel guy who says it's just Mathematics, I surely doubt we can win in that kind of attack. The system looks for combinations that will not let anyone win for a long time which is why the pot keeps on growing to millions of dollars. It's actually a simple task that must be done but is considered rigging. But, who will we point fingers at? This industry is being held by the government itself so they cannot simply just trash any cases that will be filed against it. And, who is stupid enough to do that? Most people who are betting here are trying to make a fortune using little hope and I bet no gambler could afford to waste time digging about the fishy system of a government lottery.
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there is a thread posted about this guy, I also read on an article and posted on that thread on how he supposedly managed to win 14 times on the lottery (I am quoting the supposed step by step on how he did it below).

Here's the 6-step formula for how Mandel managed to make serious cash from the lottery

1. Calculate the total number of possible combinations. (For a lottery that requires you to pick six numbers from 1 to 40, that means 3,838,380 combinations.)

2.Find lotteries where the jackpot is three times or more the number of possible combinations.

3.Raise enough cash to pay for each combination. (Mandel rounded up 2,524 investors for his push to win the Virginia lottery.)

4.Print out millions of tickets with every combination. (This used to be legal. Now you would have to buy the tickets right from the store.)

5.Deliver the tickets to authorized lottery dealers.

6.Win the cash. And don't forget to pay your investors. (Mandel pocketed $97,000 after a $1.3 million win in 1987.)
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
I've never played lottery so I don't know how the lottery game works, but so far I know the lottery is a game about probability. And maybe it can be calculated mathematically, but I am sure that even though it can be calculated mathematically, it still requires large lottery purchases to increase chances of winning

Another possibility that could happen if the lottery is randomized using an algorithm is that if someone knows how the algorithm works then there is a possibility that he can calculate which numbers will come out.
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Sometimes I wonder if the lottery commissions cares about the interests of the stakers. The lottery commission wouldn't care if the stakers looses their stakes as a comprise of the lottery sites manipulating the systems program in a way that they can twart (redirect) one chances to redeem a prosperous winning but when a staker hits attractively huge in the lottery, all eyes Will be on deck checkmating and investigating if the stakers boycotted they lottery system for such a prominent winning.
Does it mean they never expected or wanted anyone to hit such value of winning in the first place?

Let's talk about one Mr Stefan Mandel, a Romania-Australian mathematician who succeeded to hit millions and thousands of US dollars for 14 consecutive times which has got the lottery commissions worried about the possibilities of his several hitting the jackpot which series of investigations has been engaged on him to find if he uses tricks to profer him the prosperities but he defended his winning strategies was at the virtues of implying mathematical logic terms while he picks his prediction numbers.
They basically craved on how they could charge him with a persecution that he cheated or using a trick in one way or the other because his winnings has been overwhelmed but after much investigations he was vindicated and walked out free from all the assorted negatives forces of the false accusations.
The cause of this mans prosperous hitting the jackpots without being indicted on any accusations has caused the lottery  to amend it's rules.
https://www.unilad.com/community/life/man-who-won-lottery-14-times-explains-how-941995-20240215

It should be believed that the lottery did this rule changes for their own favour and not considering the stwkeri
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