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newbie
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June 15, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
#72
It's not a bubble because we are slowly correcting on the way up.

That has no bearing on whether or not something is inherently overpriced. Look at the housing market from 10 years ago. Things went up in price as a general trend (though there were corrections along the way) and then the bubble burst. That's what people are afraid of
newbie
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June 15, 2017, 01:15:33 AM
#71
Even for random viewers, this rise in BTC price is a "spike" but, There is no guarantee or evidence it will go below the current values, the coin is starting to get more popularity and attention as well as use, I don't see this bitcoin falling down much in the coming period "let alone being a bubble and exploding like the stocks", BTC is much more stable than that.
hero member
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June 14, 2017, 11:23:41 PM
#70
Probably a major bubble. But I don't think bubbles are a bug for crypto in terms of interest, I think they are the feature.

Indeed, crypto is designed to bubble.
It is pure bubble.  It's made that way.
sr. member
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June 14, 2017, 10:40:44 PM
#69
It's doubtful to say that Bitcoin is bubble . It's being 8 years and above had it being bubble it would have closed down long time back . It has seems many ups and downs . Though it's a volatile but it cannot be said that its a bubble . The dip and increase in price is always a leap which leads to high volatility in market .
hero member
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June 14, 2017, 10:35:52 PM
#68
If people are referring to a bubble like the 2013 bubble, then no. Bitcoin isn't gonna drop down to like $1000 and stay there for a year or two. Adoption is increasing too rapidly and the upwards momentum is too great. As we have seen in recent weeks the "bubble" popped in late May and then you could say again today. But these aren't bubbles. They are just corrections which last a few days or maybe a week or two and then bitcoin breaks new ground. The price increase obviously is going to slowdown at some point soon, possibly there will just be corrections more frequently so growth will be slower, but a bubble this is not.

LOL
goes down from 3000$ to 2450$ in 2 days... how call you that ? bebble ? bobble ? bibble ? bubble ? Cheesy


You seriously call it a bubble because it dropped a few hundred dollars to the price it was like 10 days ago?? hahaha. That is quite a loose interpretation of a bubble. In that case the bitcoin bubble pops every week or so. But of course these are corrections as a bubble is something entirely different.
full member
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June 14, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
#67
Stop calling the recent expansion of the cryptosphere a bubble. We are not in a bubble. We are simply experiencing the rapid expansion of a nascent technology with new entrants and their fiat entering the market. A bubble is when everyone is talking about cryptos, e.g. your taxi driver, the bellboy, etc. Outside of my close circle of tech colleagues zero people are talking about Bitcoin.

Well I don't consider it's a bubble for the reasons you're stating but I do agree with the fact that is a nascent technology with a rapid expansion. Good observation!  Wink
hero member
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June 14, 2017, 07:26:15 PM
#66
If people are referring to a bubble like the 2013 bubble, then no. Bitcoin isn't gonna drop down to like $1000 and stay there for a year or two. Adoption is increasing too rapidly and the upwards momentum is too great. As we have seen in recent weeks the "bubble" popped in late May and then you could say again today. But these aren't bubbles. They are just corrections which last a few days or maybe a week or two and then bitcoin breaks new ground. The price increase obviously is going to slowdown at some point soon, possibly there will just be corrections more frequently so growth will be slower, but a bubble this is not.

In addition,there are more countries are adopting now and even recognized it legally. I call it correction as of now and it will bounced back in the coming days. I think its normal in trading there are always ups and downs.
sr. member
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June 14, 2017, 07:16:47 PM
#65
I sold all mine @ 2760.  When should I try to catch the falling knife?
sr. member
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June 14, 2017, 07:12:00 PM
#64
It's not a bubble because we are slowly correcting on the way up.
The price of Bitcoin is going in both directions, I think that the price will go up more because there is more promotion for it and the people that use it is very likely to share their experiences with Bitcoin. So many people cashed their coins out so we’ll see how it goes.
sr. member
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June 14, 2017, 06:32:51 PM
#63
If people are referring to a bubble like the 2013 bubble, then no. Bitcoin isn't gonna drop down to like $1000 and stay there for a year or two. Adoption is increasing too rapidly and the upwards momentum is too great. As we have seen in recent weeks the "bubble" popped in late May and then you could say again today. But these aren't bubbles. They are just corrections which last a few days or maybe a week or two and then bitcoin breaks new ground. The price increase obviously is going to slowdown at some point soon, possibly there will just be corrections more frequently so growth will be slower, but a bubble this is not.

LOL
goes down from 3000$ to 2450$ in 2 days... how call you that ? bebble ? bobble ? bibble ? bubble ? Cheesy
legendary
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June 12, 2017, 07:10:09 PM
#62
It's not a bubble because we are slowly correcting on the way up.
hero member
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June 12, 2017, 06:57:38 PM
#61
If people are referring to a bubble like the 2013 bubble, then no. Bitcoin isn't gonna drop down to like $1000 and stay there for a year or two. Adoption is increasing too rapidly and the upwards momentum is too great. As we have seen in recent weeks the "bubble" popped in late May and then you could say again today. But these aren't bubbles. They are just corrections which last a few days or maybe a week or two and then bitcoin breaks new ground. The price increase obviously is going to slowdown at some point soon, possibly there will just be corrections more frequently so growth will be slower, but a bubble this is not.
sr. member
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June 12, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
#60
Probably a major bubble. But I don't think bubbles are a bug for crypto in terms of interest, I think they are the feature.
Do you really think that the bubble is just an added bonus features in the crypto market  Grin that is an outstanding thought,looking at the entire market i could see many alt coins popping their bubble and keeps on coming back and even bitcoin is trying hard to cross $3000 but the bubble keeps on bursting. Cheesy
sr. member
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June 12, 2017, 05:21:38 PM
#59
I think I agree with OP. It doesnt seem like a bubble in a traditional sense, although there was a lady at a blood clinic who was talking to me about cryptos so its getting more mass adoption as we speak. bubble, maybe not just yet but its getting closer everyday Roll Eyes
legendary
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June 12, 2017, 05:13:25 PM
#58
Probably a major bubble. But I don't think bubbles are a bug for crypto in terms of interest, I think they are the feature.
sr. member
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June 12, 2017, 02:53:12 PM
#57
Micro bubble ... Grin
legendary
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June 09, 2017, 12:49:34 PM
#56
A bubble is when everyone is talking about cryptos, e.g. your taxi driver, the bellboy, etc. Outside of my close circle of tech colleagues zero people are talking about Bitcoin.
A bubble is when something's cost differs from its intrinsic value - a bubble can happen on something which is shockingly insignificant.  Bitcoin's "intrinsic value" is extremely hard to define, so we could just call a bubble whenever the price rises extremely dramatically without much reason (such as now)

I don't think that it is really hard to do

It may be hard to estimate or assess, but this is a different task, anyway. Bitcoin intrinsic value comes from its transactional utility, i.e. its value as a currency and payment system, and this value Bitcoin would have if we removed it from speculation entirely. How much Bitcoin would cost in that case is unknown, but I don't think very much. Just in case, the value that Bitcoin has for being used a speculative vehicle is certainly not its intrinsic value. In this way, it could be safely claimed that Bitcoin is highly bubbled nowadays
Came here to basically say just this, completely agree with you.

I think that in theory, it would even be possible to get pretty exact data on how much intrinsic value Bitcoin actually has, by looking at all transactions and sifting out the ones that are tied to anything other than buying, selling or holding for pure speculative purposes.

In practice, it's pretty hard to do since it would be fairly hard to actually tie transactions to specific purposes, despite everything being recorded on the blockchain

I guess there can be different approaches

We don't necessarily need to analyze Bitcoin transactions as such. We could just look at the turnover rate of merchants that are accepting Bitcoin as a means of payment. It seems that getting this data would be a lot easier. Knowing the amount of goods sold and services rendered in dollar terms (judging by the price of the same goods and services in dollars), we could roughly assess how much Bitcoin would be worth if it were only used for commerce taking a certain number of bitcoins in circulation (and all the way up to the current Bitcoin supply)

legendary
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June 09, 2017, 11:47:37 AM
#55
A bubble is when everyone is talking about cryptos, e.g. your taxi driver, the bellboy, etc. Outside of my close circle of tech colleagues zero people are talking about Bitcoin.
A bubble is when something's cost differs from its intrinsic value - a bubble can happen on something which is shockingly insignificant.  Bitcoin's "intrinsic value" is extremely hard to define, so we could just call a bubble whenever the price rises extremely dramatically without much reason (such as now)

I don't think that it is really hard to do

It may be hard to estimate or assess, but this is a different task, anyway. Bitcoin intrinsic value comes from its transactional utility, i.e. its value as a currency and payment system, and this value Bitcoin would have if we removed it from speculation entirely. How much Bitcoin would cost in that case is unknown, but I don't think very much. Just in case, the value that Bitcoin has for being used a speculative vehicle is certainly not its intrinsic value. In this way, it could be safely claimed that Bitcoin is highly bubbled nowadays
Came here to basically say just this, completely agree with you.

I think that in theory, it would even be possible to get pretty exact data on how much intrinsic value Bitcoin actually has, by looking at all transactions and sifting out the ones that are tied to anything other than buying, selling or holding for pure speculative purposes.

In practice, it's pretty hard to do since it would be fairly hard to actually tie transactions to specific purposes, despite everything being recorded on the blockchain.

About Bitcoin being in a bubble these past weeks, I think that's pretty obvious, it's not like actual use of Bitcoin has suddenly skyrocketed, apart from Japan perhaps.
Certainly not in a way that warrants this sudden rise in price.
hero member
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June 09, 2017, 11:44:42 AM
#54
There are many signs that Bubble can happen but all of those are usually applied outside of the world of Bitcoin. I am not saying that there are no similarities but definitely there are many differences when we compare things to Bitcoin. For many times, there were times when many called Bitcoin as just another bubble but up to now Bitcoin is still going up and can one day be reaching the 10K level.
sr. member
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June 09, 2017, 11:33:15 AM
#53
It's not a bubble but the signs are all there for a correction soon. Maybe back down to 2300 range with long term trends upward.
The long term trend is always up and i do expect a range bound trading till August and after that we will see which direction the price will be going,there are many speculations but will it deter the investors and force them to book their profits ,i think they will book their profits and wait for stability.
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