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Quote from: viparmenia on December 09, 2017, 08:45:21 AM

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

HOLDING is a type of investment where you will allocate your capital with the expectation of gaining profits from it. An investor assumes of risk in anticipation of gain but they also recognize a higher possibility of loss. As a HOLDER myself, I choose this type of method because I assume that the risk is lower rather than trading. With this kind of investment, it doesn't take out too much of my time as I am very busy with other errands and activities. You can't blame and judge holders if they chose this path. If you'll just look at the current market trend of Bitcoin, it goes higher and higher compared with Altcoins. So, why choose another type of investment, where with HODL, the chances of a future financial return are way above the ceiling.

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There is no difference between holding and investing, someone who invest in something is for the speculation most of the time, it has always been like this

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Quote from: ModaFuka1994 on December 17, 2017, 11:57:36 PM

Quote from: @maetthan17 on December 17, 2017, 09:42:26 PM

It is good for those people who holds their bitcoin than to sell it now .Holding bitcoin is the same as investment wait for the ultimate price until you sell or change it into fiat .

You're wrong dude. Holding and investing are totally different, with holding you only can get more money when the price of the cryptocurrency you're holding increase but with investing, you also can earn when the price decrease or increase. But investing is not easy so people with little invest skills and experience often choose holding only.

Holding is investing man. There is literally zero difference.

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Quote from: viparmenia on December 09, 2017, 08:45:21 AM

Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

Only investment is healthy and makes any asset useful

This is true for $, gold, bitcoin or any other asset, fiat, basis coin

HODLing under mattress in hope that speculations will make you rich is nonsense killing the economic and technical progress

USE it or you will LOSE it

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

Imagine what we can reach with current 200 Billion Market capital if at least 10% of it will be on USE #INWESTed into different projects changing the world.

I am really upset to see how bitcoin is becaming just another shity speculation object of wall street - they are all alteady preparing their "future" trading, frequent trading, margin trading instruments to enter the crypto world and SPOIL it, like it is in money market going on: only speculation and no any interest on where you invest and why.

Those two are the best options if you want a long term money to grow an incredible amount of it. HODL is not as shitty as you think if you say so your a shitty topic maker well it might be. So Many HODL'ers is rich by it. Investing on real world can be risky but in the end you have to decide which is what. Not like bitcoin you have full access on it you can monitor it each and everytime by using the so called smartphones.

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Quote from: @maetthan17 on December 17, 2017, 09:42:26 PM

It is good for those people who holds their bitcoin than to sell it now .Holding bitcoin is the same as investment wait for the ultimate price until you sell or change it into fiat .

You're wrong dude. Holding and investing are totally different, with holding you only can get more money when the price of the cryptocurrency you're holding increase but with investing, you also can earn when the price decrease or increase. But investing is not easy so people with little invest skills and experience often choose holding only.

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It is good for those people who holds their bitcoin than to sell it now .Holding bitcoin is the same as investment wait for the ultimate price until you sell or change it into fiat .

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Hold or invest either of those two you wanna do the most important is you make your money grow, holding coin is always depends on the project, before you hold a coin make sure that it has a potential to grow.

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Quote from: HabBear on December 09, 2017, 10:04:34 AM

Quote from: viparmenia on December 09, 2017, 08:45:21 AM

Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

"INWEST"? What does that mean? Do you mean Invest? As in short for Investment?

Investing in Bitcoin is the same has holding Bitcoin. If you're investing in startups you're not directly investing in Bitcoin. And Bitcoin has gone up in value more than an investment in a start up this year!

I'd be keeping my coin in Bitcoin, let the start ups earn income through their operations or direct investment from their founders.

Yes both investing and holding are the same.If OP mentions buying altcoins as investing,then there is no assurance that altcoins would give huge profits when compared to bitcoin.Best option would be to just hold bitcoins as it's price is going towardsmew ATH.Entry of wall street firms has increased the expectations more.

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holding bitcoin is an easiest ways to make your investment grow, although theres a lot of chance to make more money by investing in some other crypto coins (alt-coins) but its depend on how lucky you are by choosing a few coins to grow. but in bitcoin theres a big chance to gain more money by holding, but why you recommend us to not hold and go invest ? why we dont have to choose that both "holding bitcoin and do invest on some other altcoin to gain/earn more profits. i think thats the very wise idea instead of losing one.

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Of course invest is better than just hold but it's not for everyone cause to be able to invest in any cryptocurrency, you need to have enough knowledge and experience about it, but with holding, it's much easier, people just need to find out a good potential cryptocurrency then use their cash to buy that cryptocurrency and hold for years

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Quote from: Beerwizzard on December 09, 2017, 09:56:22 AM

I see the right seed in your thoughts. But it seems like the problem is in the infrastructure for the crypto investments. We already had an ICO boom that also can be concidered as a bubble where people mindlessly threw their money into every ICO. Most of those ICOs are not able to perform as they planned in their roadmap (or their project is just don't worth the gathered money). We desperately need more legit and worthy projects to make this environment healthy. And it is not just 1, 2 or 3 projects.
But your thoughts are generaly right. Those hodled bitcoins are not realy usefull for the general situation and when the price reach the good point those hodlers can only dump it making the BTC volatility even stronger.

true if we are stuck with very high bitcoin prices do not cut the losses save bitcoin and start investing in coin the price is still low to multiply the bitcoin with an investment in altcoin bitcoin we can be a lot and growing.

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Invest into altcoins or other assets help with the growth of the new startup relating to the cryptocurrency. Also one thing that makes it more effective is the new people getting into the cryptocurrency which will help in widening of the community.

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Quote from: newwest on December 16, 2017, 07:25:52 AM

Quote from: PMmesexycoins on December 11, 2017, 04:06:50 PM

There lies the problem where it's easier to get richer by just sitting on the assets than risking them investing. The glass only holds so much water in this kind of system and it starts losing moisture before it gets entirely filled.

Every one cannot take the same risk depending upon their condition. At present the rate might go little up and may fall back it seems. So better to buy little so that when it falls back you can buy more and then hold the btc . Or else people are now buying and as the price moves up are selling and making decent profits too.

"Sitting on an asset" is very risky, especifially bitcoin, after going about 2000% up in a month,you can never knoe when a massive fix or crash will hit us, so your investment can be considered to be extreamly risky.

There is no problem that some people are getting rich from bitcoin, but there is an huge problem that the makret cap goes up like that, because those are signs of a bubble.

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Quote from: newwest on December 16, 2017, 07:25:52 AM

Quote from: PMmesexycoins on December 11, 2017, 04:06:50 PM

There lies the problem where it's easier to get richer by just sitting on the assets than risking them investing. The glass only holds so much water in this kind of system and it starts losing moisture before it gets entirely filled.

Every one cannot take the same risk depending upon their condition. At present the rate might go little up and may fall back it seems. So better to buy little so that when it falls back you can buy more and then hold the btc . Or else people are now buying and as the price moves up are selling and making decent profits too.

Just listen one thing that it is not easy to "hold and get profits" OR "Buy Low Sell high ". Most of the time when we buy or hold the price moves downwards and then the panic situation comes in and we cash out in loss. There are a lot of factors here and we should be careful of what we need and make the plan of it accordingly and change it on situation to situation basis.

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Quote from: pitiflin on December 16, 2017, 12:44:25 PM

Quote from: viparmenia on December 09, 2017, 08:45:21 AM

Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

Only investment is healthy and makes any asset useful

This is true for $, gold, bitcoin or any other asset, fiat, basis coin

HODLing under mattress in hope that speculations will make you rich is nonsense killing the economic and technical progress

USE it or you will LOSE it

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

Imagine what we can reach with current 200 Billion Market capital if at least 10% of it will be on USE #INWESTed into different projects changing the world.

I am really upset to see how bitcoin is becaming just another shity speculation object of wall street - they are all alteady preparing their "future" trading, frequent trading, margin trading instruments to enter the crypto world and SPOIL it, like it is in money market going on: only speculation and no any interest on where you invest and why.

Learn to spell "invest" first. Some people hold and some people trade and invest. Holding is not productive, agreed but some people have this sort of mindset that make them think that if they hold bitcoin for some few years, they can get good return with no risk involved. Trading involves risk and not everyone gets on to a good start, so if they believe in it, let's just not let them down. Because hey, even if you had bought bitcoin 10,000$ you would got like 19,000 back as return without taking any risks.

Please explain to me then how can your red/bolder comment (above) equate to not being productive, when your very last sentence states that a $10.000.00 investment back when BTC was priced at that value, would be worth $19,000.00 today. How is that NOT being Productive ? Just curious as to your logic.

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John McAfee says approximatly same Bitcoin is not bubble as long as people use it for INVESTMENTS
#InWest or we will ALL lose if bitcoin became something like a SHITY GOLD keeped in safes and under matress

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Quote from: viparmenia on December 09, 2017, 08:45:21 AM

Do not #HODL go #INWEST support start-ups

Only investment is healthy and makes any asset useful

This is true for $, gold, bitcoin or any other asset, fiat, basis coin

HODLing under mattress in hope that speculations will make you rich is nonsense killing the economic and technical progress

USE it or you will LOSE it

#Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

Imagine what we can reach with current 200 Billion Market capital if at least 10% of it will be on USE #INWESTed into different projects changing the world.

I am really upset to see how bitcoin is becaming just another shity speculation object of wall street - they are all alteady preparing their "future" trading, frequent trading, margin trading instruments to enter the crypto world and SPOIL it, like it is in money market going on: only speculation and no any interest on where you invest and why.

Learn to spell "invest" first. Some people hold and some people trade and invest. Holding is not productive, agreed but some people have this sort of mindset that make them think that if they hold bitcoin for some few years, they can get good return with no risk involved. Trading involves risk and not everyone gets on to a good start, so if they believe in it, let's just not let them down. Because hey, even if you had bought bitcoin 10,000$ you would got like 19,000 back as return without taking any risks.

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Quote from: viparmenia on December 09, 2017, 08:45:21 AM

Bitcoin HODLer nowadays look like old people holding their assets under the mattress instead of investing into crypto currency world.

Even if somebody decides to go #INWEST into something new #hodlers starting a shitstorm, because these cocky shitless pensioners simply scared to lose without understanding what all crypto technologies are about.

What do you expect to happen,invest in the shit storm of thousand of new projects and coins instead of holding the precious bitcoin,what kind of weired theory is that,if i want bitcoin and it is the most valued asset ,why would anyone diversify the assets and that was a very bad idea who invested this year,i invested over ten bitcoin in different projects and do you know my total valuation i own right now, just pennies compared to the amount i would have if i kept in bitcoin.

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Quote from: PMmesexycoins on December 11, 2017, 04:06:50 PM

There lies the problem where it's easier to get richer by just sitting on the assets than risking them investing. The glass only holds so much water in this kind of system and it starts losing moisture before it gets entirely filled.

Every one cannot take the same risk depending upon their condition. At present the rate might go little up and may fall back it seems. So better to buy little so that when it falls back you can buy more and then hold the btc . Or else people are now buying and as the price moves up are selling and making decent profits too.

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Quote from: BingoDog on December 16, 2017, 07:11:58 AM

I can agree that only holding bitcoin is not enough and bitcoin was not made just to be held in wallets, it should be used actively and that ways it fulfills the purpose. But investing is risky and takes certain knowledge, dedication and experiences and that is the reason why many users just like to hold it, that takes no efforts and they don't have to occupy with bitcoin, it's easier way.

If each and every user starts sending out bitcoins held in their wallet,the network will go down without a doubt,if you check the unconfirmed transaction list ,you would understand what is happening and what is needed for a smooth transaction for now,it is not meant to be sent on a daily basis at least for now,until there is some sort of technical change in the network. Wink

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