Topic: Stop Signature campaigns. I need theymos to see this. (Read 1082 times)
Removing of signature campaign is not a good idea, specially not all bitcoin user was nonsense. Signature campaign really helps a lot, reply on a forum may be a basis of investment specially for the new investor.
Removing signature campaigns in this forum was already discussed and theymos does take a stand from it and he don't want to remove signature ads for now if the merit system doesn't work he will remove signature ads globally that's why he implemented the merit system to make users to make their posts constructively not just 1 liner posts abd all i can say is there is an improvement since more users were posting constructively than before especially to new users like me although there are still a lot spamming going to bitcoin discussion boards
I agree to you but only to some extent. Regarding the post quality improved, it is true particularly in meta section. I have seen some incredible threads and replies in meta section after the merit system. I think members have realized that this is one of the most popular or visited sections in bitcointalk.
In other sections like bitcoin discussion, we can still see new members making senseless posts in old threads (one with 2000 replies or above) just to increase activity.
Removing signature campaigns in this forum was already discussed and theymos does take a stand from it and he don't want to remove signature ads for now if the merit system doesn't work he will remove signature ads globally that's why he implemented the merit system to make users to make their posts constructively not just 1 liner posts abd all i can say is there is an improvement since more users were posting constructively than before especially to new users like me although there are still a lot spamming going to bitcoin discussion boards
Agreed that signature campaigns are causing people to spam and shit post but that doesn't mean signature campaigns are stopped all of a sudden. they aren't just for paying the members here, the signature campaign of the respective ICO's are to advertise about their ICO's and I guess that would cause a drop in their marketing and advertisements which are spreading their words. To help stop spam merit system was introduced and it is quite a good idea but still may people bragging about it.
Rather than banning, they should simply be moderated/regulated. It should be 1 post/day max since that's = 1 activity. Then, if sig camp posts get merit, there should be bonus. It seems useless to post more than once a day but there are days when someone probably is "in the mood" and has a lot of great ideas, just like writers, so.
Here is what will happen if you add rewards directly for merits. Suppose there is reward of $2 worth bitcoins for one merit received. Members will start buying merits for $1 each then and pay it from the bonus. It will also affect the merit system on the whole as those members may rank up after accumulating merits in this manner. Most of the signature campaigns have criteria that only eligible posts will be paid. Campaign managers go through the posts before paying and thus those posts are not a problem for this forum.
I could care less if Sig campaigns fail and die. In fact I prefer it.
A helpful poster on another thread explained to me that you can choose not to see the annoying campaign sigs by clicking a box in your user profile. I hadn't realized that. Works great.
I am not in favor of such options. Just think of a situation where all members start using that option. What exposure will those campaigns get even after paying the members for it ? It is true that this forum must also be getting a lot of organic traffic but still the registered members here might be more interested in products and services related to bitcoins. Thus, if those signature campaigns are paying for getting more traffic and sales to their website, they should be compensated for it to the fullest.
A helpful poster on another thread explained to me that you can choose not to see the annoying campaign sigs by clicking a box in your user profile. I hadn't realized that. Works great.
But still, you will see tons of shitposts made by bounty campaign participants, so it's not a solution. Not annoying signatures are the problem, but the content of posts of signature and bounty campaign participants. Offcourse, you can manually put on ignore every shitposter, but it's time consuming and not very effective procedure I think. Shortly, this is why Merit system was introduced and we will see how situation will change after few months or maybe more.You're right of course, the real problem is all the posters doing "Will btc rise toxxx" type threads just for sig clicks. It's just another hustle. I worry that the merits will be another one. Already I have been accused of starting a thread to earn merit. And there's the larger problem in a nutshell, too many hustlers. So many people are trying to hustle everybody else. That makes everyone suspicious. It's like walking down a street filled with people doing 3 card Monty and the shell game, hustling the tourists for singles. Throw in a couple of people selling watches.
A helpful poster on another thread explained to me that you can choose not to see the annoying campaign sigs by clicking a box in your user profile. I hadn't realized that. Works great.
But still, you will see tons of shitposts made by bounty campaign participants, so it's not a solution. Not annoying signatures are the problem, but the content of posts of signature and bounty campaign participants. Offcourse, you can manually put on ignore every shitposter, but it's time consuming and not very effective procedure I think. Shortly, this is why Merit system was introduced and we will see how situation will change after few months or maybe more.
A helpful poster on another thread explained to me that you can choose not to see the annoying campaign sigs by clicking a box in your user profile. I hadn't realized that. Works great.
Rather than banning, they should simply be moderated/regulated. It should be 1 post/day max since that's = 1 activity. Then, if sig camp posts get merit, there should be bonus. It seems useless to post more than once a day but there are days when someone probably is "in the mood" and has a lot of great ideas, just like writers, so.
If you observe the services section a lot of changes are already taking place:
1) There are additional payments for members with merits. I think this is really a nice initiative taken by campaign managers and will ensure that only quality members are being chosen.
2) We cannot enforce strict requirements like only members with merits can participate simple because this system is quite new. Many members are getting used to it and thus it is not right to deprive them of opportunities completely.
3) I do not agree to making limits like 1 post a day. some members might be able to give tie here only on weekends because of their jobs or other works.
I'm with the op, ban the stupid things, they suck. They're annoying, and I hate them. They generate mondo stupidity. I feel bad for people that need money but enough is enough already. They're making money by annoying the crap out of me. And when I see a thread by a sig banner poster, my first thought is "sig campaign bait". It's like all the fud btc "news" stories on the interwebz, just there as clickbait. Get rid of them.
Rather than banning, they should simply be moderated/regulated. It should be 1 post/day max since that's = 1 activity. Then, if sig camp posts get merit, there should be bonus. It seems useless to post more than once a day but there are days when someone probably is "in the mood" and has a lot of great ideas, just like writers, so.
I think he is only because in the negative side of some users who are not yet there in terms of improving their post but as you can see the quality of their post is clearly developing and improving step by step you just need to be patient and don't be so hasty in being judgemental on others mate.
I can't tell if this post is supposed to be ironic because I don't even understand what it means...which is what this thread is about--garbage shitposts. I swear 90% of users in the main, English section can't write anything in fucking English. It's ridiculous, and then every one of these idiots acts so stunned that they haven't earned any merits. I agree with the above user, that the airdrop shitposters are the worst, but I have that whole section on ignore, and when I have visited it's been to report such posts. It is against the rules to post "joined" and the like.
Signature campaign meant for adversiting an ICO within the forum and it would resulted a huge impact on bounty campaign. I think we should leave it to bounty managers they have to become more strict when it comes to validating our post during checking of campaign accomplishment.
My thoughts is that these signature campaign is obsolete in todays social media world. They can spam telegram, Facebook, email accounts, twitter etc to promote their ICO/airdrop/Bounties.
This forums would be better off with focused discussion on real issues, ideas, Anns etc. People can still earn their bounties in the other arenas. Bitcointalk has been diluted to a point of ridicule. I wholeheartedly agree with OP, but unfortunately I do not have any merit to prove this.
If organizations are still actively paying for signature campaign you can bet they're effective at advertising. People wouldn't pay for an ineffective way to advertise, and IIRC some campaigns in the past even included a link in the signature code so every click would be logged. This forums would be better off with focused discussion on real issues, ideas, Anns etc. People can still earn their bounties in the other arenas. Bitcointalk has been diluted to a point of ridicule. I wholeheartedly agree with OP, but unfortunately I do not have any merit to prove this.
Merit itself has partially caused this Meta subforum to absolutely blow up. Discussion between people that have a pulse still happens in most subforums, but less so in subforums like Bitcoin Discussion. I personally would like more moderation in subs like those to eliminate people reiterating the same points over and over again and to prevent signature spammers from copy-pasting and editing their garbage responses there. Ever since Frodocooper was added to the Mining subforum as a mod, spamming has almost ground to a complete halt there (though there have been times moderation was questionable like in the KNC thread). Moderation might be a bit costly but it's absolutely worth it.
My thoughts is that these signature campaign is obsolete in todays social media world. They can spam telegram, Facebook, email accounts, twitter etc to promote their ICO/airdrop/Bounties.
This forums would be better off with focused discussion on real issues, ideas, Anns etc. People can still earn their bounties in the other arenas. Bitcointalk has been diluted to a point of ridicule. I wholeheartedly agree with OP, but unfortunately I do not have any merit to prove this.
This forums would be better off with focused discussion on real issues, ideas, Anns etc. People can still earn their bounties in the other arenas. Bitcointalk has been diluted to a point of ridicule. I wholeheartedly agree with OP, but unfortunately I do not have any merit to prove this.
I don't know, do you really know what is a signature campaign? Do you think that it would be good if promoting ICO is prohibited here in the forum. Let me tell you mate this not only for all smart philosophers or battle of the brains ( as I observed ), its all about business. why do you think mods created a bounties section for altcoins? They also have benefits even you, I admit even me. Some of big investors are here on this forum, so represent a signature here in this forum is more better.
My thoughts is that these signature campaign is obsolete in todays social media world. They can spam telegram, Facebook, email accounts, twitter etc to promote their ICO/airdrop/Bounties.
This forums would be better off with focused discussion on real issues, ideas, Anns etc. People can still earn their bounties in the other arenas. Bitcointalk has been diluted to a point of ridicule. I wholeheartedly agree with OP, but unfortunately I do not have any merit to prove this.
This forums would be better off with focused discussion on real issues, ideas, Anns etc. People can still earn their bounties in the other arenas. Bitcointalk has been diluted to a point of ridicule. I wholeheartedly agree with OP, but unfortunately I do not have any merit to prove this.
I am willing to sacrifice earnings to make this forum decent and spam free.
What earnings? Those optional ones that you may or may not have in a couple months? With this whole attitude of yours and the merit system in place it's probably going to be years. Such sacrifice.
I'm joined this airdrop.
Good project.
I wait for more info but I truly behind this project....
Its those shit posts that annoy me the most. And a lot of them are from newbs that don't even have a signature. Admittedly I don't get around the forum much - but the threads I do peruse - those posts there are the single most annoying ones.
Good project.
I wait for more info but I truly behind this project....
Its those shit posts that annoy me the most. And a lot of them are from newbs that don't even have a signature. Admittedly I don't get around the forum much - but the threads I do peruse - those posts there are the single most annoying ones.
Are you a professional bowman? I'm asking because you (probably unintentionally) managed to hit OP right in the knee.
happy to see a new coin from our country. All the best
Why so harsh to speak out your selfish ambition.? Not 100s, 1000s but millions I guess who participate in this place including I. If Theymos implement it to ban signature campaign, he is not human but more than beast. I think more people are thankful for being here than regretful persons. More lives than death by joining here.
I think the best thing is go out of this place if you are selfish. You have a better place outside than being here.
I wish the best
I think the best thing is go out of this place if you are selfish. You have a better place outside than being here.
I wish the best
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