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Quote from: Obari on June 14, 2023, 02:08:40 PM

I've seen several threads where people preach teaching bitcoin to kids and I've also seen threads where others talked about having some savings(investments) in bitcoin for their kids which is right.

Just as my topic reads, we should stop stressing kids with wanting them do things we didn't meet up doing and at some points getting them mentally stressed.

Please don't get me wrong because I'm typically not against teaching or maybe introducing bitcoin to your kids but I'm on the opinion that rather than bother them with this complicated digital asset (bitcoin) knowing fully well that no matter how much knowledge we have about it, if we don't have the money to buy, then we'll certainly miss out, and judging from this, I don't think it's wise teaching them or wanting to force it on them when we know that they can't afford it.

I will suggest that, rather than bore them with the history of bitcoin, why not get a portfolio for them and keep investing in it and watch it grow with them and when they're of age, then you can practically show them the needful.

I want to know if there are people who also share same opinion with me and please lets just discuss rather than argue

All misunderstandings and disagreements are due to the fact that people do not see the details of the problems. And they don't want to understand the subtleties.
Children are all different. Expressions such as "at the present time, children are all bad, but we were good" are incorrect. No. We need to take global statistics and not look at isolated cases. Of course, it is impossible to load all children with information that they do not want, especially about cryptocurrencies. But among them there are unique people who will easily understand the essence of the blockchain. Such children have been and will be, but there are few of them.

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Quote from: so98nn on July 02, 2023, 12:25:32 PM

I think bitcoin should only be taught through educational system. What I mean is, a technical lesson should be included in the syllabus so that it can create technical base on their minds and thus in the future it would be their own decision whether to go for the bitcoin adoption or not. The lessons could be anything from Satoshi white paper, how blockchain operates, basic intro to how crypto space works and rest. This will ensure we are not stressing them but we are just giving them knowledge about different type of computing language. Nonetheless blockchain is not just limited to the crypto currency anymore but its application are wide spread in variety of sectors where enormous data is generated and that needs to be protected. So yeah we can do that without hampering them.

Well said. It's also worth noting that there's a fraction of kids that are naturally endowed and gifted with the ability to understand complex topics or subjects regardless of their age. If we are able to spot these kinds of children, then not teaching them would only be limiting their potential because, it's a known fact that Crypto, Blockchain (and its other applications to other industries) and Artificial Intelligence would be the next frontier for technology in the future. Getting them involved now will provide a path for them to learn and grow as they get older.

Again, if some kids just want to follow the standard educational route, they should. The decision should be a matter of choice and not one that is forced down.

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We need to know what age is to be cared about as well as understand exactly when it comes to bitcoin. Because of their age, children are still very vague about this specialized knowledge. Even as adults like us, it is very difficult when we first learn about bitcoin knowledge, let alone just simple lessons for children. It is true that children are naturally curious, but there is no point in taking advantage of it. Because anyway, bitcoin can be for many people, but if we are too popular about it, it can make it misleading in the eyes of people.

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I think bitcoin should only be taught through educational system. What I mean is, a technical lesson should be included in the syllabus so that it can create technical base on their minds and thus in the future it would be their own decision whether to go for the bitcoin adoption or not. The lessons could be anything from Satoshi white paper, how blockchain operates, basic intro to how crypto space works and rest. This will ensure we are not stressing them but we are just giving them knowledge about different type of computing language. Nonetheless blockchain is not just limited to the crypto currency anymore but its application are wide spread in variety of sectors where enormous data is generated and that needs to be protected. So yeah we can do that without hampering them.

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I agree with you. No need to stress children with complicated stressful stuff. Let them live childhood peacefully. Blockchain is a complicated subject for adults.

Even if you are right, but come on, in this case we are only introducing, not imposing our will. Don't pretend that introducing bitcoin to children is a mistake because in this case we are also required to direct children to better things and introducing bitcoin can be a good option for the future.

We as parents only introduce bitcoin, not forcing children to understand bitcoin better because of course in the end all decisions are in the hands of children.
Regardless of the word difficult or not, it all depends on perspective because everyone has their own absorption ability, whether it is indeed difficult or not depends on each other's abilities, regardless of gender or the words of children or adults.

There is nothing wrong with introducing bitcoin instead of forcing children, but introducing bitcoin when they are too young will work or will be a waste of both of their time? Because kids will only do what they like, they will never listen to anyone unless you use your parental authority to teach them, and that's called coercion. Furthermore, introducing things that are not age appropriate will guarantee your child's future. Have you ever wondered why the education industry never included financial and economic education in the curriculum at the primary and secondary levels?

We know the limitations of course in this case, we also know what we can do for children because in conditions like this, giving something new must also be in the right portion and time. We can introduce bitcoin, it doesn't mean we introduce children as early as possible, of course we know the limits so we don't exploit children.
In this case, as parents, we know what the child's condition is like and when it can be done, introducing it is the right thing. As I said earlier, we introduce, not impose, so it is necessary to look at several situations where children are able or not to digest what we provide as their reference.

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I like the message!

There is so much unnecessary pressure that we put on the little ones without considering what they really want! Though some will appreciate the push to get the interest into crypto with the help of a guardian or parent!
But ideally trying to push the crypto message on the little ones is meant to help them prepare for the future as the digital age is here.

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Quote from: Bitstar_coin on June 14, 2023, 02:57:46 PM

It is upto each individual to do what they feel is right for their kids but for me personally I think it is not necessary to stress out kids with btc teachings. They will surely come to understand and know all about it as they grow, better to let them do what is important to them at their tender age.

same opinion as you. We should not cram too much knowledge about BTC for children, that is not necessary at this time. Investment is needed when you definitely want it, not forced

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Quote from: Mauser on July 01, 2023, 02:32:23 AM

Quote from: Obari on June 14, 2023, 02:08:40 PM

I will suggest that, rather than bore them with the history of bitcoin, why not get a portfolio for them and keep investing in it and watch it grow with them and when they're of age, then you can practically show them the needful.

I want to know if there are people who also share same opinion with me and please lets just discuss rather than argue

I fully agree with you, it makes no real sense to try and push our children to become crypto investors in their teens. As teenagers you want to have fun and enjoy your time with friends outside. School is already enough learning that is forced upon your kids and most children struggle with finding the right interest in life that leads to a good career. Just because we as parents want our kids to be active crypto investors doesn't mean it's going to happen. We shouldn't also forget that almost any child will have a rebel phase where it doesn't want to do what the parents tell him to do. During such a phase it seems nearly impossible to get our kids to become crypto investors. In my opinion it's much better to make a small portfolio for them and transfer some coins into it. If they are interest in it then teach them, if not then it's okay too. It can be that the interest only comes later after high school and having already a portfolio in their name can make their start much easier.

If you're referring to teenagers, those kids are still lucky. I have even seen some people try to teach 5 and 7 year olds about bitcoin, and they think that teaching them about bitcoin early will help them become investors or become rich when they grow up. I really don't understand what those people are thinking trying to teach bitcoin to 7 year old kids who can't even do basic math. They are just like us in the old days, needing to have fun, have a good childhood, and not try to cram everything and think it will be good for them.

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Quote from: Obari on June 14, 2023, 02:08:40 PM

I will suggest that, rather than bore them with the history of bitcoin, why not get a portfolio for them and keep investing in it and watch it grow with them and when they're of age, then you can practically show them the needful.

I want to know if there are people who also share same opinion with me and please lets just discuss rather than argue

I fully agree with you, it makes no real sense to try and push our children to become crypto investors in their teens. As teenagers you want to have fun and enjoy your time with friends outside. School is already enough learning that is forced upon your kids and most children struggle with finding the right interest in life that leads to a good career. Just because we as parents want our kids to be active crypto investors doesn't mean it's going to happen. We shouldn't also forget that almost any child will have a rebel phase where it doesn't want to do what the parents tell him to do. During such a phase it seems nearly impossible to get our kids to become crypto investors. In my opinion it's much better to make a small portfolio for them and transfer some coins into it. If they are interest in it then teach them, if not then it's okay too. It can be that the interest only comes later after high school and having already a portfolio in their name can make their start much easier.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on June 29, 2023, 03:37:31 AM

As for giving them Bitcoin investments, it can be seen as a nudge, not a shove. We're giving them an open book - they can either dive deep into it or skim it as per their interest. Its like giving them a peek into the future and saying, "Here's your piece of the pie. Learn how to bake it, or choose another recipe."

Now that you have mentioned it, this makes more sense. rather than telling them this is their one and only choice, we can give them additional options. In the future, bitcoin will not be the only option from my understanding. We will get lots of options to choose from. So saving in Bitcoin for our children's future is not a bad thing I learned from this.

This has totally changed my perspective. Giving them Bitcoin learning as an option and addition to that having something for them in Bitcoin savings will increase their interest. So if they get really interested in the concept of Bitcoin and wish to learn about it, they will get more excited to have such things in their hand. If they don't choose it, they will always have the choice to use that Bitcoin to convert to something else entirely. This is really good. Thanks for sharing such valuable lesson.

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I agree with you. No need to stress children with complicated stressful stuff. Let them live childhood peacefully. Blockchain is a complicated subject for adults.

Even if you are right, but come on, in this case we are only introducing, not imposing our will. Don't pretend that introducing bitcoin to children is a mistake because in this case we are also required to direct children to better things and introducing bitcoin can be a good option for the future.

What do you mean by "even if you are right" ? He is right. Even though kids brain is like a sponge and remembers all the info, if they find it boring (and I bet they will) they will just listen and forget about it. As a kid, if they can use it or see IRL example, they will forget about it. Kids learn from their surrounding. We dont need to teach them, we need to use it ourselves, and if this becomes interesting for them, they will learn everything themselves, especially if their friends will talk about it.

Kids learn only what is cool and modern, but not what we teach them. We need to teach teenagers and students (even though they are also kids in my eyes). If they find cryptocurrency interesting, then crypto will become "cool" and kids (does not matter their age, 4 or 12 years old will wont to be in trend identically) gonna learn it themselves.

As I said, the point in this case is introducing, not teaching, because no matter how hard we say teaching, in the end, children are still children, and it will be more difficult for them if they feel pressured.
We can't do that but we can still introduce and in this case maybe if they are more interested then facilitate.
I took a good word from what you said because the child will definitely learn on his own what he finds in the surrounding environment so that when indeed his environment already has bitcoins or at least several people (including their parents) are there, indirectly this will create more stimulus for children so that when introducing from the beginning (not teaching) then this can also be a thing that becomes more memorable, the child's brain can digest a lot of information and maybe can remember more than us as parents.

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Quote from: Raflesia on June 29, 2023, 03:31:36 AM

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I agree with you. No need to stress children with complicated stressful stuff. Let them live childhood peacefully. Blockchain is a complicated subject for adults.

Even if you are right, but come on, in this case we are only introducing, not imposing our will. Don't pretend that introducing bitcoin to children is a mistake because in this case we are also required to direct children to better things and introducing bitcoin can be a good option for the future.

We as parents only introduce bitcoin, not forcing children to understand bitcoin better because of course in the end all decisions are in the hands of children.
Regardless of the word difficult or not, it all depends on perspective because everyone has their own absorption ability, whether it is indeed difficult or not depends on each other's abilities, regardless of gender or the words of children or adults.

There is nothing wrong with introducing bitcoin instead of forcing children, but introducing bitcoin when they are too young will work or will be a waste of both of their time? Because kids will only do what they like, they will never listen to anyone unless you use your parental authority to teach them, and that's called coercion. Furthermore, introducing things that are not age appropriate will guarantee your child's future. Have you ever wondered why the education industry never included financial and economic education in the curriculum at the primary and secondary levels?

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Quote from: Raflesia on June 29, 2023, 03:31:36 AM

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I agree with you. No need to stress children with complicated stressful stuff. Let them live childhood peacefully. Blockchain is a complicated subject for adults.

Even if you are right, but come on, in this case we are only introducing, not imposing our will. Don't pretend that introducing bitcoin to children is a mistake because in this case we are also required to direct children to better things and introducing bitcoin can be a good option for the future.

What do you mean by "even if you are right" ? He is right. Even though kids brain is like a sponge and remembers all the info, if they find it boring (and I bet they will) they will just listen and forget about it. As a kid, if they can use it or see IRL example, they will forget about it. Kids learn from their surrounding. We dont need to teach them, we need to use it ourselves, and if this becomes interesting for them, they will learn everything themselves, especially if their friends will talk about it.

Kids learn only what is cool and modern, but not what we teach them. We need to teach teenagers and students (even though they are also kids in my eyes). If they find cryptocurrency interesting, then crypto will become "cool" and kids (does not matter their age, 4 or 12 years old will wont to be in trend identically) gonna learn it themselves.

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on June 28, 2023, 03:57:45 PM

This is interesting, because bitcoin learning should never be forced upon children. It's a wrong thing to do. As mentioned in the OP, I also have seen several threads about this topic. They are so eager to teach their kids. Teaching is something else and forcing is something else. If you teach them the concept rather than teaching them the complex full knowledge of Bitcoin, then that could change the whole picture. With everything else in our life, Bitcoin should also be an opportunity or choice from many! Not just one and only, and not something that has been forced upon someone.

And making a portfolio for them by investing in bitcoin is also kinda points towards the same direction. The scenario is something like this. Here's your money, but in order to use it, you need to learn about Bitcoin. One way or the other, they are getting forced to learn about it and use it. Make it a choice, let them choose on their own when the time is right.

Love your perspective about giving children the choice to learn about Bitcoin! The beauty of knowledge is that it's most fruitful when sought, not imposed.

The world of Bitcoin and blockchain is fascinating, but it can be overwhelming if not introduced properly. Instead of presenting it as a monolithic subject, we could break it down into digestible parts. Talk about digital currencies when teaching them about money, or mention blockchain when discussing the internet and online privacy.

As for giving them Bitcoin investments, it can be seen as a nudge, not a shove. We're giving them an open book - they can either dive deep into it or skim it as per their interest. Its like giving them a peek into the future and saying, "Here's your piece of the pie. Learn how to bake it, or choose another recipe."

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I agree with you. No need to stress children with complicated stressful stuff. Let them live childhood peacefully. Blockchain is a complicated subject for adults.

Even if you are right, but come on, in this case we are only introducing, not imposing our will. Don't pretend that introducing bitcoin to children is a mistake because in this case we are also required to direct children to better things and introducing bitcoin can be a good option for the future.

We as parents only introduce bitcoin, not forcing children to understand bitcoin better because of course in the end all decisions are in the hands of children.
Regardless of the word difficult or not, it all depends on perspective because everyone has their own absorption ability, whether it is indeed difficult or not depends on each other's abilities, regardless of gender or the words of children or adults.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 23, 2023, 04:58:29 PM

That’s the best we can do as parents. If we will place ourselves to our kids shoes, then we also don’t want to be taught with things that are never interested at a young age. Let’s just let them enjoy their childhood days and provide them those things that will value more their childhood days. After all, once they grow and mature, for sure they will start taking serious things that will make their life worthwhile. And this is the perfect timing to introduce bitcoin to them. But forcing them to live with bitcoin is already beyond our control since they’re responsible enough to manage their life according to their set rules and norms.

The question some parents need to ask themselves is what do they think little children Would Learn from Bitcoin, even some grown-up people it is not even easy with them to understand Bitcoin because they do not have that time to put their all to get understanding to know what they are supposed to know about Bitcoin. what most grown people are so much interested about Beacon is for them to just make the profit and not really to take their time to understand bitcoin very well.

if grown people are not discipline to learn is now going to be easy for young kids to put interest to learn?.

Quote from: Forever101 on June 23, 2023, 03:35:23 PM

The topic got me laughing. What you said is nothing but the truth, if it is difficult for people of age to grasp this concept how much more younger age. Those who take such steps to teach children such a complicated phenomena, I referred to them as Bitcoin extremist. Let's take life gently with them even if you have the money to sponsor their bitcoins investment. The pressure and volatility of bitcoins can have an adverse effect on the child irrespective of your explanation. Give to them what they can assimilate and bear.

This is the same thing I am even talking about, it will be so difficult for children to understand bitcoin and I promise you they cant even understand anything about bitcoin. Even some of the things they are supposed to know at their level it is so hard for them to understand it. Bitcoin is not something people are supposed to be forced to learn, bitcoin is something one must have interest for first and without pushed by anyone, parents who are trying to force their children to learn bitcoin are doing things the wrong way.

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This thread is very exceptional, it is important to know that human beings easily store things in their brains at a tender age, anything they are been taught they learn easily at this stage. In the aspect of teaching children Bitcoin, it is very good to teach children Bitcoin because no knowledge is a waste their parents might not have money to invest presently but this child may grow to be part of this great technology, don't force them but any one of them that finds bitcoin interesting when you are telling them how bitcoin operates, teach them because everybody must not invest immediately that's why awareness of how this currency and it's technology work is the key to the acceptance and adoption. So don't stop doing the needful.

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I like this post, I have stressed similar points on what the right time frame is for when they should start to actually learn how to use Bitcoin in the practice (I said around 12-14), but also I did note that I think it is important for them to at least know what it is. I give my nephews some novelty coins in a package recently and they loved it, one of them called me and asked a little further and the main thing we talked about was just the price of one bitcoin, and he was blown away haha. Loved it. So fun amping them up on it, don't bore them with random facts and stats, hype them about how awesome it is, thats what I do with kids on bitcoin and it works very well.

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This is interesting, because bitcoin learning should never be forced upon children. It's a wrong thing to do. As mentioned in the OP, I also have seen several threads about this topic. They are so eager to teach their kids. Teaching is something else and forcing is something else. If you teach them the concept rather than teaching them the complex full knowledge of Bitcoin, then that could change the whole picture. With everything else in our life, Bitcoin should also be an opportunity or choice from many! Not just one and only, and not something that has been forced upon someone.

And making a portfolio for them by investing in bitcoin is also kinda points towards the same direction. The scenario is something like this. Here's your money, but in order to use it, you need to learn about Bitcoin. One way or the other, they are getting forced to learn about it and use it. Make it a choice, let them choose on their own when the time is right.

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Quote from: Forever101 on June 23, 2023, 03:35:23 PM

The topic got me laughing. What you said is nothing but the truth, if it is difficult for people of age to grasp this concept how much more younger age. Those who take such steps to teach children such a complicated phenomena, I referred to them as Bitcoin extremist. Let's take life gently with them even if you have the money to sponsor their bitcoins investment. The pressure and volatility of bitcoins can have an adverse effect on the child irrespective of your explanation. Give to them what they can assimilate and bear.

I think it's true that don't give too young children who are happy to play with very complicated situations regarding bitcoin, where bitcoin is not very easy / difficult to describe for them. agree with you, the emphasis on bitcoin for young people [who are happy to play] will clearly have a bad impact on the development of these children, let it be when the time comes, they can find out and ask themselves about bitcoin in time, without any pressure. It must be remembered that children of their age, quickly learn about technological developments, who obviously will also know about what bitcoin is and if they need an explanation, they will definitely ask questions, at that time it is permissible to provide the right and best information about bitcoin.

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