Stop Using Banks, Paypal And Credit Cards! Let's Integrate Bitcoin Everywhere! - page 2.

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Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 01:33:45 AM

Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?
Why do you you pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?
Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?

Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?

Vito, we all want to get rid of banks, but the governments will not allow for that to happen. They are in bed with these banks and they control the

flow of money into and out of their country. We want mainstream adoption, and some of us are actively promoting Bitcoin to the public with

different methods. { We have weekly meetups in my city, and we invite guests to these meetups to get them interested. }

We hate the situation with the scaling problems and the spam attacks, but unfortunately this is the way it works and if you want to make a

difference, then you should run a node and "vote" for the best solution that you may think, will take us forward. Roll Eyes

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Bitcoin has no chance of becoming the dominant currency in any contry. What it can become is the significant parallel currency in many major countries. imho, that is what we should be striving to achieve.

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Quote from: Xester on February 07, 2017, 02:12:14 AM

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 01:33:45 AM

Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?
Why do you you pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?
Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?

Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?

I can feel your passion for bitcoin but sad to say that we cannot let go of banks since we need banks at this moment. We can let go of PayPal but notof banks. Remember that bitcoin is backed up by fiat currency and fiat currency is produced by the Central Bank. Without the fiat currency backing up bitcoins then bitcoin will lost its value. Without banks there are no fiat currency, without fiat currency bitcoin will have no value.

Yes, exactly, we should not forget that we are still using this money or fiat now, bitcoin is useful on making money because we converted it to fiat that we use in our daily life. One day, when bitcoin will be widely used, then we do not need to convert it in Cash as we can perform direct bitcoin to bitcoin transactions.

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Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 01:33:45 AM

Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?

None of really do have a choice in that if we want to use money every day(which we do) we need to go through a bank.

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 01:33:45 AM

Why do you ~~you~~ pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?

Paying tax is not entirely bad why do people think paying tax is always a bad thing, the government needs the money to function what the money is used for is not something that we can control.

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 01:33:45 AM

Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?

Well, this is a bitcoin forum so that question is stupid, everyone here uses bitcoin. What "thing" do you want to create? All that needs to be done for buying everything with bitcoin is convincing merchants to accept bitcoin like they do visa or other electronic payment. And lastly, no one here cries about unconfirmed txes.

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Quote from: ReLieD on February 08, 2017, 09:22:05 AM

Taking into consideration the whole world , very few people know about bitcoin.
It is not known by people in many countries.
Also not all countries accept bitcoin.
Whereas PayPal and credit cards are used my most of the population.
Bitcoin can never replace them , but can also become a way of making transactions.

Yes, I think it's hard to make people stop using banks, paypal and the like. Then told to switch to bitcoin, maybe for some people this is already happening. But the number was not proportional to the number of people who do not want to use bitcoin even if the person already knows bitcoin. Unlike the banks that already existed long ago and of course people will have more confidence to save their assets there. But it can be done if there is such a movement joint around the world to introduce the bitcoin. Thank you

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Is this an official protest to begin like the major movements that Trump has started in the past few weeks?
Whenever things come to a boiling point people will protest about what they believe in that is right.
And this is an issue that affects everyone so many people will rally behind it to do away with all this fuss and muss that is seriously not needed. Bitcoin takes care of everything we need in a global currency and more! Grin

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Taking into consideration the whole world , very few people know about bitcoin.
It is not known by people in many countries.
Also not all countries accept bitcoin.
Whereas PayPal and credit cards are used my most of the population.
Bitcoin can never replace them , but can also become a way of making transactions.

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Quote from: Amph on February 08, 2017, 01:59:24 AM

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 02:07:53 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 07, 2017, 01:53:43 AM

i still need to use both because something like foods can not be bought with bitcoin and you need a bank account for that, hopefully i have no fee with my bank

i don't cry about unconfirmed transaction, but unless you are a miners you can't support anything, running a node will not add to the vote for activating segwit or any hardfork

We need to be more stubborn and hate banks, paypal, credit cards with all our soul.
I never use them.
I personally buy almost everything with bitcoin and if there's any reason to pay in cash then i find people locally who can exchange.

how can you buy foods with bitcoin? in many place it's not ccepted, if at least some supermarket consider it we may get something

but as today i never heard of any supermarket accepting bitcoin

i think the important question is about whether you will be open to spending your bitcoin if a supermarket started accepting bitcoin today? and the answer may surprise you when most people say no to spending their coins since it is just an investment that they are waiting to make them rich.

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Quote from: Amph on February 08, 2017, 01:59:24 AM

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 02:07:53 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 07, 2017, 01:53:43 AM

i still need to use both because something like foods can not be bought with bitcoin and you need a bank account for that, hopefully i have no fee with my bank

i don't cry about unconfirmed transaction, but unless you are a miners you can't support anything, running a node will not add to the vote for activating segwit or any hardfork

We need to be more stubborn and hate banks, paypal, credit cards with all our soul.
I never use them.
I personally buy almost everything with bitcoin and if there's any reason to pay in cash then i find people locally who can exchange.

how can you buy foods with bitcoin? in many place it's not ccepted, if at least some supermarket consider it we may get something

but as today i never heard of any supermarket accepting bitcoin

Bitcoin getting acceptance similar to our fiat is simply hard to take place in a short to make everyone use bitcoin directly for their needs. As quoted above Super Market accepting bitcoin can never be seen soon. Recent days Japan have been getting more stores with bitcoin acceptance.

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Quote from: slapper on February 08, 2017, 05:03:00 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 08, 2017, 01:59:24 AM

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 02:07:53 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 07, 2017, 01:53:43 AM

i still need to use both because something like foods can not be bought with bitcoin and you need a bank account for that, hopefully i have no fee with my bank

i don't cry about unconfirmed transaction, but unless you are a miners you can't support anything, running a node will not add to the vote for activating segwit or any hardfork

We need to be more stubborn and hate banks, paypal, credit cards with all our soul.
I never use them.
I personally buy almost everything with bitcoin and if there's any reason to pay in cash then i find people locally who can exchange.

how can you buy foods with bitcoin? in many place it's not ccepted, if at least some supermarket consider it we may get something

but as today i never heard of any supermarket accepting bitcoin

Indeed. There is no shop which accepts Bitcoin in my country and you will be desperate if you live here. Bitcoin is not as popular as most of you guys think and we need to wait for a long time for Bitcoin to be recognized and utilized widely on this planet. Therefore, I would prefer holding bitcoin than using Bitcoin

I'm storing and earning bitcoin like you. I mean I dont use much because there are not many place that provide bitcoin services around my house. Almost my bitcoin transactions are done via network like facebook, seller,... I'm looking for the shop that accept bitcoin and try to use it for the first time.

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Quote from: Amph on February 08, 2017, 01:59:24 AM

Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 02:07:53 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 07, 2017, 01:53:43 AM

i still need to use both because something like foods can not be bought with bitcoin and you need a bank account for that, hopefully i have no fee with my bank

i don't cry about unconfirmed transaction, but unless you are a miners you can't support anything, running a node will not add to the vote for activating segwit or any hardfork

We need to be more stubborn and hate banks, paypal, credit cards with all our soul.
I never use them.
I personally buy almost everything with bitcoin and if there's any reason to pay in cash then i find people locally who can exchange.

how can you buy foods with bitcoin? in many place it's not ccepted, if at least some supermarket consider it we may get something

but as today i never heard of any supermarket accepting bitcoin

Indeed. There is no shop which accepts Bitcoin in my country and you will be desperate if you live here. Bitcoin is not as popular as most of you guys think and we need to wait for a long time for Bitcoin to be recognized and utilized widely on this planet. Therefore, I would prefer holding bitcoin than using Bitcoin

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Quote from: Vito Corleone on February 07, 2017, 02:07:53 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 07, 2017, 01:53:43 AM

i still need to use both because something like foods can not be bought with bitcoin and you need a bank account for that, hopefully i have no fee with my bank

i don't cry about unconfirmed transaction, but unless you are a miners you can't support anything, running a node will not add to the vote for activating segwit or any hardfork

We need to be more stubborn and hate banks, paypal, credit cards with all our soul.
I never use them.
I personally buy almost everything with bitcoin and if there's any reason to pay in cash then i find people locally who can exchange.

how can you buy foods with bitcoin? in many place it's not ccepted, if at least some supermarket consider it we may get something

but as today i never heard of any supermarket accepting bitcoin

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Quote from: xuan87 on February 07, 2017, 06:47:27 PM

we still need more time for everybody to know bitcoin and give them time to adopt bitcoin payment, not all the people in the world know bitcoin and accepting bitcoin, and most of the country only got few shop that accepting bitcoin, so we still unable to purchase daily basis need using bitcoin

That's right, it will take time, I think everyone noticed how over the last two years has made Bitcoin decent leap forward and this trend will continue. Every year more and more services, shops and the like will accept Bitcoin.

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This idea was really hard to implement knowing that we traditionally use cash as a payment for daily basis(for most of the people). I'm not saying that it's not possible but unless someone initiates to do it on just a smaller scale and undergone test and experiments, and successfully implement on that set of subjects.It's just the same with someone suggesting "Let's use Papypal as a way of payment on our daily expenses.

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Its will take times to get people belived in bitcoin, you can not just spend all of your money to buy bitcoin and then use it for your daily need. Agree that there are many system accept cryptocurrency transfer nowadays. But its still not enough for you, not enough for your life. I mean what would you do if you have a meal in a store which just accept cash and that time all your cash was changed to bitcoin?
Strongly agree that bitcoin are more common and convenience day by day but we still need cash, need banks, credit cards because those things are very familiar with everyone for long time. We just can change that fact slowly and effectively

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We cant just withdraw our funds on bank and buy bitcoins. We need banks for safety of our money. Besides, we cant buy anything with bitcoin like cash can. So we need banks to be able to make it cash. We dont have much options because bitcoin has limitations. One more thing. What if you buy bitcoin and the price falls? Maybe if all people around the world adapts bitcoin. We can do it. But right now, its not the right time.

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we still need more time for everybody to know bitcoin and give them time to adopt bitcoin payment, not all the people in the world know bitcoin and accepting bitcoin, and most of the country only got few shop that accepting bitcoin, so we still unable to purchase daily basis need using bitcoin

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It's still impossible for mostly of us to live without bank account, Paypal and other similar things. We can't do our daily stuff by having only bitcoins. And bitcoin isn't a perfect currency to become it accepted everywhere. It's long and difficult road to make bitcoin used by everyone is ahead us.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on February 07, 2017, 02:05:04 AM

I support this, but in fact we as well as the user would have an important role to introduce bitcoin to everyone, at least the need to introduce it to some restaurateurs and others for using the payment bitcoin making it easier for customers to get used to using bitcoin to buy and pay for something and it also was the stage of the process, let's look at the future

I agree the problem with the bitcoin today is that it needs more advertising so people will know more about it and become popular and get the attention of the investors and the big companies, I mean PayPal was not popular at first but with time it become used everywhere, bitcoin is sti new so give it some time.

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Valid questions but that is what our social structure is. So that is not going to happen even in future. It can only be done in dreams. However, on a serious note, if this happens, the world economy will fall apart and a huge madness between the people will erupt.

Government keeps us safe because we pay them the tax in various ways. Directly or indirectly. If we don't have government, then everything will shatter. So it is not at all a good idea to stop disclosing anything to government. Government is necessary for out well being. Without a government in each countries, our humanity will be destroyed.

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