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Smart contracts have not been confirmed for Stratis.  Secondly Ethereum can be used with any language, so C# is not necessarily an advantage.  Again, how is this any different from Lisk - there are more JavaScript developers than even C#, why shouldn't Lisk beat Ethereum?


The reason lisk isn't higher is because their implementation and code output is weak. In other words, they have a weak team which takes too long to bring things out, and the market has reacted accordingly.

Stratis delivers what it says it will do quickly and efficiently, with a clear roadmap that they're actually sticking to. They are also based in central London which is arguably the most productive place in the world (and I know because Ive lived there)

This is one of the things that sets Stratis apart from so many other techs. They are a solid team that delivers quick results, on time, with none of the faffing about that a lot of other cryptos have (like lisk). They are super productive and are in the right environment to deliver quick results.

They are also in the banking capital of the world with rapid access to so many financial institutions, literally next door to them. Something that a lot of cryptos dont have.

Stratis can also be used with any language. The C# is used as the link for the existing enterprise code which already exists.

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I'm not saying it shouldn't go up, I'm saying it's overvalued right now because they don't have anything in production.  The wallet is just a fork and reskin.  I looked on github, the Stratis project is a fork of Novacoin.  How much is Novacoin worth?  Novacoin only has a supply of 1.7M and it's worth $4.28:

Sorry but this is complete and total bullshit. Novacoin has absolutely NOTHING to do with this

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Why should Stratis be valued so much higher when it leverages significantly from Novacoin?  What makes it so different?  Please show me where the Stratis whitepaper talks about smart contracts.  What page was that?

This Novacoin BS means you've lost your credibility. Smart contracts is also written very clearly in their roadmap



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C# is not a big deal - Lisk is JavaScript dapps and essentially the same argument.  There is a reason Ethereum is #2, smart contracts run on the main chain, not side chains only, which is what Stratis plans to do.  They don't even have smart contracts built-in yet.  And I'm asking you to find where it say s that they already have it - they don't.  So for these reasons, there are plenty of alternatives to Ethereum that should be much higher valued.

Again, your forgetting that its not ideas and concepts that matter. Lisk might be a good idea in practice, but their implementation sucks, their team sucks, their location sucks.

- Its implementation and ability to deliver results that matter (Stratis is delivering what it says it will do, and super quickly).
- Its location, access to corporations that matter (Stratis is based in central London, the banking capital of the world)
- Its team that matters (Stratis is a team with its experience in Enterprise IT)

The CEO of Stratis Chris Trew has been in Enterprise IT based in central London, the banking capital of the world. He sees how corporations have structured their IT infrastructure and he has seen that its C# and .NET which is common throughout their infrastructure. This programming language and infrastructure is used as THE LINK to allow their blockchain technology to develop.

The reason side chains exist is so Stratis can run multiple blockchain languages in one core technology. Stratis is like a blockchain hub where multiple technologies can run together at the same time.

Again, it honestly seems you dont know what your talking about

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Dash and Monero both have anonymous transactions already existing today.  Ethereum, and plenty of others already have smart contracts.

I think the coin market is getting filled with trash.  They're filling hype, not real need.

Do Dash and Monero make Bitcoin transactions and coins anonymous?

Smart contracts are not a big deal like your making them out to be. What is a big deal is getting an easy to use solution that corporations can use to implement different blockchain technologies, by respecting their existing IT infrastructure.

What your failing to understand is that corporations cant just jump ship with all their code and start using ethereum or any other crypto. They have an existing legacy code that needs to be maintained and respected, especially when it comes to banks which basically are continually building on top of their existing code and software without actually deleting or changing anything.

By Stratis using C# and having an indepth understanding of how corporate IT works, they are respecting the REALITY of corporations. The C# is used to link into the existing legacy code on the .NET framework

As for Ethereum, corporations are ripping off ethereum left and right. Look at Corda for instance...banks implementing their own smart contracts by looking at how ethereum works and then making their own system.

You are seeming to think that smart contracts is some magical thing, when it isn't.
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 Is it really as good as the others in the top 10?  Is it really comparable to Dash at this point?  
I don't think Dash is a good comparison. the controversy surrounding Dash's early days could be a big impediment to powers that be accepting it.
That's the only point I'd make. Dash will always have that uncertainty overshadowing it.

One thing about Stratis is that the team seems trustworthy. They deliver on time or ahead of time and do what they say. Now they are certainly not the only team doing that, but it does help
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when is breezewallet out?
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It is wasting time to discuss with butthurt trolls, Stratis is the best one. Ignore trolls.
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people are selling Eth to buy more cheap stratis . So you can see now eth going down and stratis up . Cheesy

I doubt it's possible for START to keep this pace. It's extreme parabolic now - hard dumps can start any time


I don't think hard dumping, only price correction.

Well, it's more than 50x in 3 months - this pace is unrealistic long term.

I used to suffer from this "it's unrealistic, can't keep going up, I'm afraid to buy more" mentality.  I bought ETH at $3 and sold at $11.  I got in BTC at $360 and sold at $1200.  I even passed on STRAT multiple times until finally getting in at $8.  The crypto markets are not realistic.  There is no realistic.  History is being made every day in this space.  We're in a new territory, forget what you think is real.  

I even sold DGB too early and WAVES too early.  Had I simply held onto all the coins I bought and not sold too early because they were going up "too unrealistically" ... I'd be a millionaire (in USD) right now.  
You're just butthurt you sold Eth and Waves too early and didn't buy Strat for under 10k sat when you did have the chance. And you admit selling BTC too early. That's the only reason for your FUD. Kind of sad really.. like you said you sold everything too quick and didn't take the opportunity when you had the chance to buy and hold STRAT and now you come cry here about the current price. Coinbiz doesnt know how to so business obviously, quite pathetic you just want cheaper coins.

They're getting cheaper. 

Consolidation period before the next leg up,

You my freind are not in the business of coins if you don't recognise this chart pattern.

Stratis tech is waaaay undervalued.

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people are selling Eth to buy more cheap stratis . So you can see now eth going down and stratis up . Cheesy

I doubt it's possible for START to keep this pace. It's extreme parabolic now - hard dumps can start any time


I don't think hard dumping, only price correction.

Well, it's more than 50x in 3 months - this pace is unrealistic long term.

I used to suffer from this "it's unrealistic, can't keep going up, I'm afraid to buy more" mentality.  I bought ETH at $3 and sold at $11.  I got in BTC at $360 and sold at $1200.  I even passed on STRAT multiple times until finally getting in at $8.  The crypto markets are not realistic.  There is no realistic.  History is being made every day in this space.  We're in a new territory, forget what you think is real.  

I even sold DGB too early and WAVES too early.  Had I simply held onto all the coins I bought and not sold too early because they were going up "too unrealistically" ... I'd be a millionaire (in USD) right now.  
You're just butthurt you sold Eth and Waves too early and didn't buy STRAT for under 10k sat when you did have the chance. And you admit selling BTC too early. That's the only reason for your FUD. Kind of sad really.. like you said you sold everything too quick and didn't take the opportunity when you had the chance to buy and hold STRAT and now you come cry here about the current price. Coinbiz doesnt know how to do business obviously, quite pathetic you just want cheaper coins.
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Thanks for adding substance to the discussion.

Why would i give you a hint and you stated that the breeze wallet is only a gui redesigned this shows that you dont have a clue hahaha

Did ethereum built everything within less a year you donk? Did dash/darkcoin achieved most of its target less than a year?
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This logo is similar to LBRY, I think dev should discuss this further.
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If Lisk follows Stratis, then it has a long way up. Any other ethereum clones that have not taken off yet?
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Waves is also very similar, not quite a clone, but you'll notice Waves rising with Ethereum.  In general, I see Waves, Ethereum, and Stratis as the 3 major business/finance coins.

This is what you said a week ago.

Coinbiz is a retard. A weak hand didnt do the proper research. We dont give a fuck for people like him. His aim is for a quick buck hahaha
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If Lisk follows Stratis, then it has a long way up. Any other ethereum clones that have not taken off yet?
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Waves is also very similar, not quite a clone, but you'll notice Waves rising with Ethereum.  In general, I see Waves, Ethereum, and Stratis as the 3 major business/finance coins.

This is what you said a week ago.
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Here is a C# implementation of Ethereum, already existing 3 years ago:
https://github.com/etherchain/cs-ethereum

Here is a C#/.NET Ethereum client from 2 years ago:
https://github.com/CiaranJones/Ethereum.NET 

Also Microsoft provides a plugin for Solidity smart contract development in the Visual Studio IDE:
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ConsenSys.Solidity

Here's yet another github repo that provides an integration into Ethereum with C#/.Net
https://github.com/Nethereum/Nethereum


What makes Stratis so special again?  Those smart contracts and anonymity that it doesn't even have yet?  Hype hype all you want.  But price is too high right now.  Good luck trading with no knowledge.  Trust me, I already tripled my money on Stratis, but for now I won't buy until I see something real come out.

If you've made money on Stratis, why bad mouth it :-). You should respect things which has given you a bread, that's 1st point
Secondly, there's only ethereum right now doing the smart contracts and if there's one more competitor that gets built in the field, whats the problem?

Let's not speculate as to what is good (or) bad, lets wait for the official announcement of stratis and then we'll see how to go from there.

My 2 words.
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I hope the Breeze wallet will be releasing in this month, wait for the huge pump.

waiting for this good news
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How many people here truly understand the technical difference of Stratis vs. Ethereum?  How many of you speculating actually have a technical software development background?  

Personally, I made a good profit short-term on this, but I'm not sure if I want to re-enter, maybe only for the hype around the breeze wallet.  Looking at the wallet code, it is just a UI re-design.  I don't see a technical underlying improvement over what this has been forked from.  I see a lot of hype by people who have no clue what they're talking about.  It's like Lisk, where Lisk was JS for Ethereum, and this is just C#/.Net.  

The price is declining in correlation with people cashing out and many also realizing what this really is.  Is it really as good as the others in the top 10?  Is it really comparable to Dash at this point?  The value is way overhyped, and the market is starting to realize this.

Also, with Poloniex disabling their chat, it seems the overhype on some of these is dying down.  

Still, I don't know if it will go up/down, just saying it's not that great.  Yes, it's great if you bought during the ICO or shortly after, but I don't know about buying at these prices, given the current tech they have put out.  The valuation at the current rate is overblown.
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Coin biz is clearly not in the business of coins.

Stratis belongs in the top 3.
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1.   Bitcoin Bitcoin   $37,277,627,263   ------ Stratis is faster, Doesn't use POW, More Use cases, Startis will be helping out BTC throgh Breeze wwallet
2   Ethereum    $16,576,462,180   -------------Stratis is better, Smart contracts in C#, dapps in C, C has 1000x more developers than solidity
3   Ripple Ripple   $12,846,247,296   ------Stratis is better, XRP shouldn;t even be considered a crypto. Goes everything Crypto standss for
4   NEM NEM   $2,239,515,000   -------------- Comeonnnnnn,,,,Stratis is better
5   Litecoin Litecoin   $1,584,559,093   -------Just a cheap fork of BTC, Stratis is better(no competition)
6   Ethereum Classic Ethereum Classic   $999,737,901   - ----Cheap fork of Ethereum (or eth is a fork of TC) In any case, Stratis is better
7   Dash Dash   $963,952,737   $131.80   7,313,532 DASH - Dash is pretty good for anon. Apart from that, Strat is better
8   Bytecoin Bytecoin   $723,001,025   ------- Another Anon coin, really ? Strat is better. just use Strat breezewallet and bitcoin for anon
9   Monero Monero   $629,126,517   $43.36   ----- Anddddd another anon coin, 3 anon coins in the top ten..... Strat is better
10   Stellar Lumens Stellar Lumens   $550,436,264   ------- A copy of XRP, Strat is definately better than this Sh**
11   Dogecoin   $433,236,420   ------ ANother clone of BTC..... STRAT IS BETTER

TO SUM UP

The top ten consists of 3 Anonymous coins. 2 Ethereum protocols which do the same thing. 2 forks of Bitcoin. Bitcoin an outdated energy intensive dinosauar, and 2 bank centric cryptos & NEM.


Is it just me, or does anyone else think it is INSANE. 

STRAT should be TOP 3!!!!
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Where is Khilone7? He normally posts reassuring posts during times of turmoil. A reassuring post would help now as it was almost enough coins for a masternode that was dumped a few hours ago.

You are overreacting a little bit . Stratis remains strong and there is absolutely in control as far as development is concern. So chill and watch over your stratis with a beer or something and relax.
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How many people here truly understand the technical difference of Stratis vs. Ethereum?  How many of you speculating actually have a technical software development background?  

Personally, I made a good profit short-term on this, but I'm not sure if I want to re-enter, maybe only for the hype around the breeze wallet.  Looking at the wallet code, it is just a UI re-design.  I don't see a technical underlying improvement over what this has been forked from.  I see a lot of hype by people who have no clue what they're talking about.  It's like Lisk, where Lisk was JS for Ethereum, and this is just C#/.Net.  

The price is declining in correlation with people cashing out and many also realizing what this really is.  Is it really as good as the others in the top 10?  Is it really comparable to Dash at this point?  The value is way overhyped, and the market is starting to realize this.

Also, with Poloniex disabling their chat, it seems the overhype on some of these is dying down.  

Still, I don't know if it will go up/down, just saying it's not that great.  Yes, it's great if you bought during the ICO or shortly after, but I don't know about buying at these prices, given the current tech they have put out.  The valuation at the current rate is overblown.
Value overhyped? You have no idea what you are talking about. This is bitcoin in C# with smart contracts like Ethereum in sidechains. There are millions of coders worldwide who have access to an easy to use platform, on which you can code and create dapps in blockchain. Also tumblebit technology will attract many bitcoin enthusiasts.

Chris Trew who came with this idea quit his well paid job to work on this fulltime. He approached Nicolas Dorrier, who rejected the project at first as he gets a lot of offers. Then one day Nicolas decided to work on it along with Chris. Why would a well known genious bitcoin developer do that?

What is being build here is revolutionary tech and there are a lot of big strong hands still holding since ico. There is a reason for that. It was way undervalued for a long time and Stratis is getting the recognition it deserves. Also it will also be an anonymous coin like Dash and Monero. Besides that after such a rise a correction is inevitable.
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Where is Khilone7? He normally posts reassuring posts during times of turmoil. A reassuring post would help now as it was almost enough coins for a masternode that was dumped a few hours ago.
Well for now there is plenty of sell pressure on the sell side pushing it down, so all we can do is be patient and hold and not feed the STRATS to the whales, or wait for the rich Whales to offload and buy at the next bottom. We bought some yesterday at 35k sats but I think at the present way the order books are going, I see it going down further for the interim and then maybe when some big news hits, suddenly people will want to fill more bags.. I will lock my few strats I have away and not think about them for a year or so. Of course I only own 300 so it's not worth my downloading a wallet as I will never be able to stake anything but I can wait a year.  Smiley
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This sounds like an interesting project. Have to delve more into it, but can someone summarize why is it developed for businesses?

What is the thing that sets it apart that makes it suitable for business use?

Also I saw the use cases on the website, sounds a lot similar to Factom as it does:

  • Medical Research: Transparency of scientific publications
  • Provenance: Product tracking and verification
  • Internet of Things: Data recording and management
  • Fintech: Identity management

Is it basically a time stamping and record keeping blockchain?

How does it differ from Factom?

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Where is Khilone7? He normally posts reassuring posts during times of turmoil. A reassuring post would help now as it was almost enough coins for a masternode that was dumped a few hours ago.
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I hope the Breeze wallet will be releasing in this month, wait for the huge pump.
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