Topic: Street Selfie? Why all these crazy requirements in the name of KYC verification? - page 2. (Read 1186 times)

I really don't get why so many people are just okay with anything they ask. What's next, a dick pic in front of a street sign?
It's not as if there aren't countless other websites you can use to gamble/exchange without outrageous requirements, and they only get away with it because apparently many of their users let them. Don't let them!

Even if a bank asks me for a selfie, I close my account. They only ask this because it's cheaper than having someone visit their office to show their passport, and it doesn't even prove you didn't buy the selfie/address/passport/picture/anything from someone else.
It's fake security for bad people, and a serious threat to their privacy for honest people.

D*mn, so they really still doing this kind of sh*t.

Applying bank accounts in person at the counter is always been easy in any bank at least in my place 1-2 ID is enough, unlike making an account online where lots of requirement is needed probably because digital files can be forged.

Yes, cloudbet will decline your selfie. I live in a condo and there is no street sign on the street with the name and I sent them selfie from my balcony with newspaper and today date and ID, and still they declined. Cloudbet is simply joke, and all that for funny amount of money to be mentioned

The first time I read about this street selfie, I'd done selfies on some legal and reputable sites and even on my national ID card and my local exchange, but never a street selfie if it's being asked to check if the site is not a scam because there is no reputable site that will ask for more except selfie with code and address I don't know what's the logic of the street selfie when selfie with a code is just enough to prove that you are real and the same person on your information if you're living in a condominium or remote area that has no street sign, will they decline your selfie.

Open your own topic in services, it's unlikely someone will come to this old topic with the exact thing you need.
With that being said I would warn everyone against trying to facilitate a KYC for a total stranger on the internet, you simply have no idea what you might get dragged into, it might be a harmful thing of someone who is from a banned country or some far more illegal.
Plus, again, what are you going to do if they ask fro this proof one year later and you can't get hold of the one that did the video the first time?


I've never been asked by a bank to provide more than my ID at the counter and I haven't heard of anything other than a video call if you can convince them you're unable to go to a local branch, never selfie, pictures with paper, or anything like that, I doubt they are even legal in the EU!

The casinos that ask the customer for these strange verifications, it is clear that they want the customer to refrain from sending these documents or to fail to pass the KYC in order to issue and freeze his funds, and they are definitely scam casinos, because banks or companies now either ask the customer to send them an audio recording, passport, identity card, or driver's license, or for one of them to hold and take a selfie, or to write a paper that contains today's date, name, and the rest of the details, and holding it, and then take a selfie, but for the customer to take a selfie outside the building or street sign and showing his face while holding the government document, this is a strange thing that I have not seen before.

It sounds more like a review than a KYC. They should pay users for doing such publicity. I believe in Crypto services should be as anonymous as possible.

If anyone can solve video selfie verification for bet365 please let's contact me.

I see some logic there, probably someone may do KYC verification, risk and launder money if he can protect his IP address via Tor, VPN and other methods but when it comes to KYC procedure in the street, then it's a very risky move cause you are leaking your location.
I think that if Criminal X risks and still does KYC at his home in a safe environment, he won't do it in public.

Yes, we definitely need it. I still don't understand why the leaders of countries think that it's okay for online business to operate and ask KYC to anyone they wish. TikTok, Meta and other popular platforms collect tons of data and process them in their countries, this can be a serious threat for any nation except 1-2.
Hope we will have progress in protecting of privacy in Europe, this gives me some hope: Meta warns it may shut Facebook in Europe but EU leaders say life would be 'very good' without it.

And just about any other site that holds your funds. I think it's going to get worse and worse since people seem to be jumping though whatever they ask for. We see it as insane KYC they see it as CYA (Cover Your Ass) let's face it. If someone was doing something wrong and they come back and say, we have a copy of his ID with him standing under a street sign and the address is within the geo-location of the IP that he connected with. They have a better case then saying, yeah he said his name was Bob and we believed him.

I can also see some small country somewhere taking advantage of this and opening up their borders for online casinos and such. Just so they get their cut.

Until other countries complain and we do the loop again.

-Dave

Because at that time they were asking for those just to cover their asses on some laws nobody bothered about when it came to crypto casinos, not that they actually cared if those IDs are fake or real, they were happy with having the minimum AML requirement checked and that's that, now that things have changed and everyone is aware you can get those for 10-20$ they've ramped up a bit the requirements and although even those can still be passed the main reason behind it is to make it costly and far riskier for both the one selling your services to pass KYC and the customer.

I'm just thinking of this scenario, you have paid a guy on Fiverr to verify your account, and they suddenly ask you for one more picture 3 months later, and you call the guy again since obviously it's his face there, he sees you have 20k locked there,  and suddenly he asks you for 10k instead of 100 and it's your choice lose 50% or 100% of the money. Would you still risk it?

Kind of ironic that even opening an account on gambling websites has become a gamble on its own.

But according to your post history, it seems to me you are having issues with Playbetr and not Cloudbet. When did this issue come up and why didn't you make a scam accusation after you failed to get your money?

I just check the Cloudbet thread and I have just seen another user post a length KYC requirement 
I am glad I don't use casinos. Gone are the days when they just ask for the front and back side of your Government issued ID and KYC verification was complete.

I was asked to do the same, I provide them one photo and they refused it and ask for another. Even if you provide them what they ask for they can just reject reject and reject, and good bye money. It is CLOUDBET that we are speaking about

Because banks actually do the verification of the numbers on that ID and they have the network in place to do it.
The moment you go to a bank and present a fake ID you can be sure that you're going to get in trouble, we have updated our system for example last year, it takes only 10 minutes from the moment a bank operator to nserts your ID details and they know already who is in front of them, how much he makes, what's his real updated address with the authorities that might not be on older ID cars and your banking history, besides banks have the possibility of scanning your actual ID, not a photo.

Using a fake ID in a bank will land you up to 5 years in jail, how much are you risking by sending a shady online casino a fake picture? 


No surprise, after all the major flaw in this garbage is that you can't verify the authenticity of the document in the picture, even if it bypasses the criteria it still might be bogus information. Banking account verification are probably the easiest, just as how 1$ temporary card charges to prove you own it, combine that with the security implemented by banks for 2FPA authorizations and you can trim down the mountain.

But no casino will go this way as they want to stay away from banks and police and other authorities themselves.
 

Yeah, no wonder KYC is getting gamed because it's insecure as s***.
I don't want to know how much KYC data is circulating on the Darknet getting abused by criminals. 

Just recently, some German hackers from CCC (Chaos Computer Club) have exposed (once again) how insecure the video-ident process is and demanded the German government to ban video-ident. (original article in German).
In addition, the hackers demanded to establish a commision to prove that a technology is really safe. And video-ident is not safe, it's highly insecure.
The funny thing: some German government experts have recommended banning video-ident too, but nothing has changed, video-ident is still allowed (but it's getting reviewed now).

It could be so easy to issue a simple transaction from a verified bank account to authorize an account (for example exchange) and such a system is currently reviewed in Germany, called bank-ident. We need experts to build and review it.
Protecting privacy should be of high priority and luckily, some people like from CCC (Chaos Computer Club) are doing a very good job here.

Definitely wired, I mean what is the need for specifically asking for a street or outside the building type of selfie, is it to track the user down with the footage and whatever is in the background?
Any platform that will require such as a requirement for KYC will immediately loss me as a potential user, it is bad enough to want to got through KYC and now you have to do it in the open with the details of your surroundings in it! No way am doing that crap.

The agents who is setting all these criteria don't even think about from their customers view, even if they are living in a country where all these things are exist but to do such kind of selfie in a public place with much details and accuracy is way awkward and annoying, I will never use them again if I get such feelings once.

Holy cow. I wonder if they also sell the selfies to other companies to train their AI. Not saying they did, but assuming I've found some gigs like this in the past, it is not out of the picture. Hopefully, it won't be the trend, if it does happen I won't torture myself for something like this.

Perhaps it's away of keeping the customer's money hostage since what they ask for is close to impossible. Imagine if the customer is from one of those 3rd world countries where residential places have no marked buildings or even well demarcated streets. What does the customer do then in order to pass the KYC requirements?

Not even the banks I have used before ask for this kind of verification 

Asking for selfie is acceptable or if they want serious verification if they found something is not good then just ask for the video call verification which is more convenient and credible than holding a selfie and writing something on the paper because in the todays technology any kind of editing is possible just from the simple android apps.