stupidity is so close to poverty - page 11.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 22, 2019, 05:32:32 PM

~ I have some educated people who are poor too, why? Because they couldn't use their education, you have to be a little bit flexible.

I do know such people as well, and, yes, what the lack is flexibility. They stick to their old knowledge refusing to learn something new in order to get much better salary in some of the developing fields. It's a pity that knowing so much already, they don't want to learn a bit more to fit in some highly paid positions. Like it or not, we are no longer in times when the education you received in young age can be enough for the rest of your life.

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maybe, actually if you are stupid and don't have a job or have a job that's 9 to 5. You can be called stupid IMO because you don't have the freeedom. You ain't financial free.

You depend on the paycheck you get every month. If you have a bad job where you earn 20k a year and don't raise your skills well you ain't smart IMO.

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Just found this thread, it's old but I'm gonna reply anyway. Stupidity may cause poverty but being smart doesn't automatically mean you won't be poor. It's multiple factors like your spending habits (how much you get to keep from your paycheck) and financial literacy (whether you know how to make more money without necessarily working more). I see a lot of educated people in debt or can barely pay bills.

If you've ever read Robert Kiyosaki you'd know his "poor dad" is a professional with a Master's while his "rich dad" seemed to have only got to high-school.

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Quote from: Angi on August 24, 2019, 03:12:19 AM

Stupidity is not the basis of being poverty. You are just a fool if you do not make a way to succeed. stupidity is just a habit. everyone has that habit. but it depends on where you use it. you just don't use that to enrich and crush people.

There are a lot of stupid rich people and stupid successful people, it's not confined to being poor, stupidity for me is doing the wrong move when it is so obvious that what you are going to do is wrong in everybody's eyes, it's like being selfish.

this is mean stupidity not always rellated with knowledge in any field.in my around there are many people that have no good education in formal school could be rich man.if we rellated stupidity with education in my opinion its totally wrong.but if like you said above i think its true.many educate people but make basic mistake although obviously they know this is wrong/ mistakes.

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Quote from: Angi on August 24, 2019, 03:12:19 AM

Stupidity is not the basis of being poverty. You are just a fool if you do not make a way to succeed.

Yes, indeed. When it comes to money issues, then being stupid do play a huge factor. But, generally, in life, it does not necessarily mean that if you are stupid, you are poor, or vice versa. Because, at some point, we all have our stupid moments. It's better to say that the lack of determination and strategy is what causes poverty.

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Quote from: Angi on August 24, 2019, 03:12:19 AM

Stupidity is not the basis of being poverty. You are just a fool if you do not make a way to succeed. stupidity is just a habit. everyone has that habit. but it depends on where you use it. you just don't use that to enrich and crush people.

There are a lot of stupid rich people and stupid successful people, it's not confined to being poor, stupidity for me is doing the wrong move when it is so obvious that what you are going to do is wrong in everybody's eyes, it's like being selfish.

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Stupidity is not the basis of being poverty. You are just a fool if you do not make a way to succeed. stupidity is just a habit. everyone has that habit. but it depends on where you use it. you just don't use that to enrich and crush people.

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perhaps more precisely the lack of knowledge is very close to poverty. indeed, most of the poor are very low in economy, but there are also some rich people who are stupid because they do not have extensive knowledge

If there happens to be some rich guy who is stupid, then he'll not remain rich for very long. Even in order to protect your wealth, you need a certain amount of intelligence. I can give you hundreds of example where stupid people became rich, either through inheritance or just because of their luck. But almost all of them became poor pretty soon. One example here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Whittaker_(lottery_winner)

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Quote from: spike420211 on August 21, 2019, 12:30:29 PM

You are partly right. In modern society with the current level of technology, the smarter you are, the more successful and wealthier you are, which means the higher your standard of living.
However, not everyone is ready to spend efforts on the development of their intellect, because this is an integrated approach requiring large time and energy costs.

However, I am deeply convinced that the game is worth the candle.

At the same time being smart is a talent too because not everyone is capable of learning something quickly, not everyone can focus on things and etc. Also everything hugely depends on what kind of person you are, bad situation leaves some people in even worse while it's great stimulus for others to escape from that bad and develop further.
I'm sorry but OP's right, poor people have very, very low education. I have some educated people who are poor too, why? Because they couldn't use their education, you have to be a little bit flexible.

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perhaps more precisely the lack of knowledge is very close to poverty. indeed, most of the poor are very low in economy, but there are also some rich people who are stupid because they do not have extensive knowledge

In this 21st century, lack of modern knowledge such as computer literacy, digital competence, technical skills etc is bad for an individual.
The whole world is evolving into a digitalized shpere and it becomes very important for all to acquire that needed knowledge to be able to thrive in our world today.

The poor people today are mostly those who lack the basic knowledge that is needed to increase ones chances of succeeding in this modern/competitive and digital world of ours

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Quote from: spike420211 on August 21, 2019, 12:30:29 PM

However, not everyone is ready to spend efforts on the development of their intellect, because this is an integrated approach requiring large time and energy costs.

Well, actually this would not be hard if that eagerness is coming from inside, when you want a change because you want a better life, you'll surely do everything to improve. It started with your plan, and willingness to initiate it, without it, you'll only stop in the planning phase and no action will be taken.

People does not want to be stupid, some are just deprive with an opportunity, and not everyone have the same high level of knowledge, some are just think poorly or they are just satisfied with what they achieved now because they are afraid of taking risk.

The best way to solve poverty is not to look for a job only, we have to learn how to invest on ourselves and be confident we will succeed.

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You are partly right. In modern society with the current level of technology, the smarter you are, the more successful and wealthier you are, which means the higher your standard of living.
However, not everyone is ready to spend efforts on the development of their intellect, because this is an integrated approach requiring large time and energy costs.

However, I am deeply convinced that the game is worth the candle.

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Quote from: Netnox on November 24, 2018, 12:21:03 AM

There are a few observations that I made:

1. Stupid people tend to have too many children (up to a dozen), thus worsening their poverty levels.
2. Stupid people never care about learning skills, so remain poor forever.
3. Stupid people don't care about savings.

#1 is the most important, IMO. In my country, most of the couples have just one child and having two is a rarity. But I have visited third world nations such as India and Bangladesh. India in particular fares really bad. In the two largest provinces (Uttar Pradesh and Bihar), it is very common to find couples having 7-8 children each. And the worst part is that the political power of these states have increased as a result of the rising population.

It is a never ending cycle. Illiterate and stupid people tend to have dozens of children each. And due to this large number, none of them gets proper education and skills that are required to land a job. However, since the population is large the political parties will shower them with more and more freebies, in order to win their votes. This in turn encourage these people to have even more children.

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Quote from: pinkpanther03 on August 21, 2019, 06:41:14 AM

Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 05:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

You are wrong with your understanding, not all poor are fools.
If you're born poor its not your fault but if you die poor its your fault.
Now, if you made stupidity it means the result would be not good and for sure
you won't like it in the end.

Can't believe you would say something so idiot. If you die poor it can be from a multitude of reasons. I've seen people with serious health issues having to spend hundreds of thousands if not millions on their healthcare. Next time to see a poor person don't just assume they are stupid or lazy.

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Quote from: Schirer on August 21, 2019, 07:27:50 AM

Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 05:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

I would say that this statement as a whole is stupid. Pour people in general are not stupid, they have to survive on small amount of cash so they are wise and know how to ration and make things work with what they got.

There is some truth if you rephrase the statement - pour does not have the same opportunities as others, inmost cases they have to go to hardest route just because they do not have the means or information, again because they are busy with working and surviving.

Whats pour? You mean poor ? . you got a point on your post though but there were also poor people because they arent wise enough to handle thier budget .

there are some have given an oppurtunity to earn or to learn but those people seem to be lazy and ignore those oppurtunity that knocks on them .

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 05:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

I would say that this statement as a whole is stupid. Pour people in general are not stupid, they have to survive on small amount of cash so they are wise and know how to ration and make things work with what they got.

There is some truth if you rephrase the statement - pour does not have the same opportunities as others, inmost cases they have to go to hardest route just because they do not have the means or information, again because they are busy with working and surviving.

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 05:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

You are wrong with your understanding, not all poor are fools.
If you're born poor its not your fault but if you die poor its your fault.
Now, if you made stupidity it means the result would be not good and for sure
you won't like it in the end.

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Quote from: BennyK on August 20, 2019, 11:15:32 PM

Stupidity can result to poverty but this is not a strait jacket principle. Sometimes poverty can hit someone without the person's fault. What matters most is the ability to realize the past mistakes, seek counsel from experts, correct the mistakes and make positive developments to change the current status (poverty).

There are two types of stupid people, there are those who when financial opportunity comes for them to make money, they see the opportunity and they refuse to act on it and thus miss out on making money and there are those who with lack of financial knowledge don't even have the sense of seeing the opportunity when it's staring at the them in the face. The former may not make the same mistake again and make an opprtunity pass them by but with the latter he is going to doomed to go through this process unless someone enlightens him.

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Quote from: kumala_abi on August 20, 2019, 08:41:42 AM

~there is no more reason why people still be a dumb and make it as main reason for their poverty.internet provide much resources to learn everything.and maybe there are many thing that no provided in regular education we could found it there.as long as we have strong will to changes our fate we have many ways to realize our hope in future.no matter at this moment we still be stupid this day but we still have long time to change it.

That's right, since lately there are no excuses for uneducated people. You can find any information you need on the Internet, plus various free courses etc. But I wouldn't blame older people for their ignorance though. They could spend their youth earning a living while rich kids were getting their education, and there were no Internet, so poor people couldn't educate themselves on their own. It's really good that those times are gone forever.

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 05:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

no. I do not think that. There are very smart people, great artists but they don't love money. they love things that give them a positive spirit.
money is not the measure of each person's IQ, it's just a tool exchange.

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