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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 04:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

Not totally and not all the time I think. There plenty of people in this world who work their heart out each and everyday of their life but cannot escape poverty due to the corruption existing in the government. Farmers work harder than a person in the office but can you see how unfair it is when it comes to their salary? If you have all the chances to earn lots of money and you've let it slip out of your hands, then indeed, you are stupid and you are closer to poverty.

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Stupid does not mean close to poverty, if the person is stupid in thinking he can still use energy or limbs to get income.
so not all fools become poor, unlike those who are lazy or just keep quiet and do not want to think or do not want to try because their lives depend on others and there is a possibility they will become poor.

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Quote from: jmigdlc99 on October 08, 2019, 10:30:15 AM

Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 04:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

I strongly disagree.

There have been lots of cases where people have proven your statement wrong. I'm sure you've heard the common story of dirt poor individuals who become rich entrepreneurs through perseverance, hard work, and even a bit of luck. It is just ignorant to say that poor people are stupid.

What OP means about "stupidity" are those people who are barking without any knowledge about the certain topic or situation, like in bitcoin, there are so many people who are judging it based on what they hear and read on the social medias even though they don't know what is going on, they are blowing the torch out of their stupidity.

Though I get what you meant, those people that you were saying are those people who lives in the street, they are not stupid, they are uneducated and there is a difference. Stupid people could be those people who have degrees yet stupid and loud while uneducated people are those who have big hearts that appreciates every little things and persevering people, no wonder some of them are now billionaires.

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Poverty is not a choice mate so I don't agree with your phrase. Stupidity however can be a choice sometimes if you don't want to educate yourself and inform yourself about all the important things as later in your life those decisions will reflect in your life. However when we talk about poverty , do you think people when they born they choose to be poor ? Or as they grow most of them don't fight to overtake their poverty ? Think again.

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 04:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

I strongly disagree.

There have been lots of cases where people have proven your statement wrong. I'm sure you've heard the common story of dirt poor individuals who become rich entrepreneurs through perseverance, hard work, and even a bit of luck. It is just ignorant to say that poor people are stupid.

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In my own point of view, we cannot blame those people who have been experiencing poverty that they are poor, and we should not call them stupid because stupidity is lack of common sense which poor people still have their common sense. I think the reason why people are experiencing poverty because of laziness, corruption, discrimination, and etc, so stupidity don't have any connection for making a person poor.

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 04:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

Stupidity is not the main factor why people are close to poverty, because there are people who are stupid still they are rich. The main factor is the laziness and lacking of will to stop the poverty that they are experiencing. Most of the people think that if they are poor they will die poor, but if they do their job and study very well I think they can stop poverty on themselves.
Every people have their own weaknesses just like laziness and lossing the will to live.

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 04:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

Yes, but poor people are not involved here we speak about the stupid people. Stupid will make us poverty because stupidity is just making nonsense and un approachable behavior that will make people a bad image that will make his life down.

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 01, 2019, 02:15:45 AM

This is something that you shouldn't say if you are not in the same shoes as them. .
I have seen poor people trying too hard but not achieving whatever they want , the money and jobs when it comes to people they actually have a hard time achieving it when they don't have any connections .
Do you think they don't want to make money ?
Maybe they didn't achieve any education or maybe situations aren't going according to them.
They need guidance and education .

Education is what they need the most, no doubt about that. And I agree with you that in some countries you can't get a good job without right connections even if you are skilled and educated. But this situation is changing with time, day by day. Firstly, there are more and more opportunities of finding a good job via the Internet. Secondly, no economy can survive for a long time without fair competition, so those governments are basically doomed.

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Quote from: sehoon on August 26, 2019, 06:04:03 AM

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There are a lot of people wanting to be rich but they are not doing anything. These days you can do a lot of things and it can help you raise your status, just help since all of it will depend on how you will be using your skills and knowledge. They said that being poor is a choice, I think it is just being lazy and not using your skills.

Like the kind of person being dependent at its finest? Or like the one who already forgot the reality and just stucked on daydreaming? Yes! They do exist and usually the first type. I have a relative of mine who is blessed compare to other but choose to ruin it. His educational expenses was covered by my grandfather, his food and shelter is no longer a problem too but you know what he did? He choose his peers over all of tbis blessings (which are bad influencers) and end up as a factory worker. How funny to think that he is now aiming to become rich but wasted such once in a lifetime chance to cultivate yourself amd become a successful professional Roll Eyes

. What a shame.

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Not necessarily, we don't know what they have been through. People who are born poor is a disadvantage in terms of learning but still it depends on the person or in the situation on how are they be able to change it. Some of them gets the opportunity to go to school and some of them weren't able to since they need to work in order to survive rather than to learn. Life is really unfair, we can't deny that. Thus, let's not judge a person by what his state in life.

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That is absolutely right. With modern technology, things are being upgraded very quickly and those who do not grasp the trend will soon be poor.
Therefore, we need to learn and cultivate more to be able to benefit the society and become richer.

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This is something that you shouldn't say if you are not in the same shoes as them. .
I have seen poor people trying too hard but not achieving whatever they want , the money and jobs when it comes to people they actually have a hard time achieving it when they don't have any connections .
Do you think they don't want to make money ?
Maybe they didn't achieve any education or maybe situations aren't going according to them.
They need guidance and education .

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Quote from: sehoon on August 26, 2019, 06:04:03 AM

No, if you are a poor person, that does not mean you are stupid or something. There are people who were able to finish their degrees but still does not get a good pay because of greedy people and there are people that does not get any opportunities to have a job. People in the upper bracket should change that way of thinking.

That is true but if you want to stay poor, then that is stupidity.

There are a lot of people wanting to be rich but they are not doing anything. These days you can do a lot of things and it can help you raise your status, just help since all of it will depend on how you will be using your skills and knowledge. They said that being poor is a choice, I think it is just being lazy and not using your skills.

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Quote from: Finestream on August 26, 2019, 06:12:54 AM

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Depending on which country you live, if the government is corrupt, it's expected the poverty rate is high, and usually those who are smart will benefit on this as they can use the situation to monopolize employment by giving people a poor salary and these poor people due to big competition has no choice but to accept the offer even if they know they are underpaid.

They benefit not because they are smart, but because they belong to the corrupt government or related to it. In such countries if you are a smart businessman, you go to jail because of a fabricated case against you. That's why it's unfair to call someone from such a country stupid when he/she is not successful in business. Living in a country with corrupt government, you basically have two options, either stay poor or go to jail. So, I wouldn't call stupid those who have opted for the former.

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Quote from: Distinctin on August 26, 2019, 12:11:35 AM

it's easy to get out in poverty as long as we have a sustainable job that could give us employment consistently and we can rely on it for our future, this is actually the government's responsibility since people will definitely work when there's an available job, the government responsibility is to create jobs.

Some people are already contented with having a job so they can buy the needs of their family in a daily basis.
Not everyone are ambitious to be financially free as most of us think that we can't achieve that kind of ultimate success.

Depending on which country you live, if the government is corrupt, it's expected the poverty rate is high, and usually those who are smart will benefit on this as they can use the situation to monopolize employment by giving people a poor salary and these poor people due to big competition has no choice but to accept the offer even if they know they are underpaid.

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Quote from: buternasek on July 10, 2018, 04:49:02 AM

stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion. Grin

No, if you are a poor person, that does not mean you are stupid or something. There are people who were able to finish their degrees but still does not get a good pay because of greedy people and there are people that does not get any opportunities to have a job. People in the upper bracket should change that way of thinking.

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Quote from: Angi on August 24, 2019, 02:12:19 AM

Stupidity is not the basis of being poverty. You are just a fool if you do not make a way to succeed. stupidity is just a habit. everyone has that habit. but it depends on where you use it. you just don't use that to enrich and crush people.

Then what is the meaning of stupidity for you? Ever search it? Stupid is different from being a fool but they are close to each other and stupidity is the highest of them all. Stupid means you lack of intelligence or common sense, how would you even succeed in life if you lack those two? A habit? Are you kidding me? A stupid person will always be a stupid person.

ignorance is the beginning of poverty, and therefore the government allocates large funds to fight ignorance. we cannot do much with ignorance, and tend to be easily fooled. at least we must have one skill that can be sold, so that it becomes our provision to make money. for example an athlete, he can make money from his expertise, even though he is not good at anything else

Your skills will give the opportunities to be compensated, it's true that stupidity will lead you to nothing so you needed to bring something good out from your own if you able to find the best thing inside you the chance is very big to make your life easier might not be too wealthy but you'll not stuck to poverty instead you can build good directions and live a life with better financial stability.

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Quote from: ceyhun4270 on August 25, 2019, 06:49:06 AM

maybe, actually if you are stupid and don't have a job or have a job that's 9 to 5. You can be called stupid IMO because you don't have the freeedom. You ain't financial free.

You depend on the paycheck you get every month. If you have a bad job where you earn 20k a year and don't raise your skills well you ain't smart IMO.

That's depending a person, for me, I want to work in a job where I also enjoy and I earn well, I believe that's the dream of every employees.

However, as we work for years, we realize that working alone will not make us financially free, that's why we try to get out of our comfort zone and start a business or venture that we ourselves are managing it, but being financially free and just getting out in poverty is too different, it's easy to get out in poverty as long as we have a sustainable job that could give us employment consistently and we can rely on it for our future, this is actually the government's responsibility since people will definitely work when there's an available job, the government responsibility is to create jobs.

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Quote from: Angi on August 24, 2019, 02:12:19 AM

Stupidity is not the basis of being poverty. You are just a fool if you do not make a way to succeed. stupidity is just a habit. everyone has that habit. but it depends on where you use it. you just don't use that to enrich and crush people.

Then what is the meaning of stupidity for you? Ever search it? Stupid is different from being a fool but they are close to each other and stupidity is the highest of them all. Stupid means you lack of intelligence or common sense, how would you even succeed in life if you lack those two? A habit? Are you kidding me? A stupid person will always be a stupid person.

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