I appreciate your suggestions it holds a bit of sense.
But the trust rating is not only associated with escrow, bitcoin or money.
Some member has been giving red trust for trolling would that also be added.
Topic: Suggestion: Display risked bitcoin amount on profile. (Read 439 times)
There is 21 million "Risked BTC amount" at the DefaultTrust profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=122551
Yes, you can put that in for anybody/anything. That's just another of many reasons this idea is trashed already. Someone lock this thread and put it death with fire already.... 🔥
There is 21 million "Risked BTC amount" at the DefaultTrust profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=122551
Maybe it's not very bad suggestion, but I just don't see how it would be beneficial. Not everyone wants to show how much BTC they sold, bought or escrowed. Many people don't write amount risked and leaving feedback without these numbers.
The idea behind this suggestion was to help fight false comment and btc risked feedbacks. As of current the risk btc feedbacks doesn't affect your account that much so people tend to leave false feedbacks there but with this my suggestion it'll force users especially DT members to leave accurate figure or risk been blacklisted and red tagged too. The option to disable it from showing on some board could be enabled for privacy reasons but it'll always show on your profile. Not saying the idea is that great but i am seeing some positive outcome.
No. This will not work - I do trades and deals and I have zero willingness to put in the "proper" amounts. When You buy something at the store, do you put it on your facebook profile?
Forget about it and just lock the thread. Nobody is going to make this work, it's just a waste of time.....
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Maybe it's not very bad suggestion, but I just don't see how it would be beneficial. Not everyone wants to show how much BTC they sold, bought or escrowed. Many people don't write amount risked and leaving feedback without these numbers.
The idea behind this suggestion was to help fight false comment and btc risked feedbacks. As of current the risk btc feedbacks doesn't affect your account that much so people tend to leave false feedbacks there but with this my suggestion it'll force users especially DT members to leave accurate figure or risk been blacklisted and red tagged too. The option to disable it from showing on some board could be enabled for privacy reasons but it'll always show on your profile. Not saying the idea is that great but i am seeing some positive outcome.
Maybe it's not very bad suggestion, but I just don't see how it would be beneficial. Not everyone wants to show how much BTC they sold, bought or escrowed. Many people don't write amount risked and leaving feedback without these numbers. So, these numbers next to trust score wouldn't be accurate. And such stats wouldn't help. Before dealing with someone for the first time you always have to open trust page to get image about user by checking feedbacks. You don't start deal just after seeing green trust in profile. If there amount risked would be shown, you still would need to open trust page to check all feedbacks.
Disagree - Many people don't want deal amounts disclosed for privacy. This is just a dumb idea, sorry.
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I am not going to trust the escrow that escrowed 100 BTC when BTC price is like $2. I will trust the escrow who has escrowed 1 BTC when it is above 10K. Now see how adding BTC in trust rating skew the whole ratings in favor of old escrows that might be no longer active also.
The more trades you publicize, the bigger target you become. I wouldn't mind this but it would generally not show the whole picture.
I'd argue the more experience a user shows with actual handling of BTC, the less likely a scammer is to try and target them, as they're obviously not going to fall for stupid scam tricks. Publicizing such things does make you a target for petty jealousy though, which leads to forum drama.
The more trades you publicize, the bigger target you become. I wouldn't mind this but it would generally not show the whole picture.
I'd argue the more experience a user shows with actual handling of BTC, the less likely a scammer is to try and target them, as they're obviously not going to fall for stupid scam tricks. Publicizing such things does make you a target for petty jealousy though, which leads to forum drama.
The more trades you publicize, the bigger target you become. I wouldn't mind this but it would generally not show the whole picture.
I wouldn't see this as useful at all. For one definitely if you want this risked amount to be displayed even on members who don't have DT feedbacks everyone can inflate their rating just to make their account attractive, other than that people will always prefer the member who has the highest score as they think that these people are the ones to be trusted the most. You will just simply be worsening the trust system if you want this added feature you introduced to be included.
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Trust has its own meaning in the bitcointalk forum class in Bitcoin transactions or nouns so that trust can state the name of a person, place, or all objects and everything that.
Here is clearly a difference of opinion:
There are two different things,
(green): Meaning, Belief assumption or that something that is trusted is true or real and belief (will be honesty, kindness, and so on).
(Red): meaning, belief in presumption or no belief in the sense of guilt.
so it could be wrong if given like this symbolic BTC.
Here is clearly a difference of opinion:
There are two different things,
(green): Meaning, Belief assumption or that something that is trusted is true or real and belief (will be honesty, kindness, and so on).
(Red): meaning, belief in presumption or no belief in the sense of guilt.
so it could be wrong if given like this symbolic BTC.
Lol this is the funniest post i have read today, what are you even saying?. After reading everyone replies i believe the suggestion isn't welcome by majority although this user below gets it.
It's a good idea its just hard to implement at all...
Yeah maybe a better explanation is what the nay sayers need to understand better. If it can be implemented and managed properly it'll add more value to the trust system
Still need escrow service provides to drop there view though.
People can lie. Trust is not monitored or audited. I believe that the best thing to do in this case is to ask for an address that has moved large values and to observe the ANN created by the Escrow. The list of Escrow that are still active in the forum is not that big. And if it's a high value, you can try to use a multi-escrow with 2/3.
Disagree - Many people don't want deal amounts disclosed for privacy. This is just a dumb idea, sorry.
You have an interesting idea. But will it lead to an increase in fraudsters?
I think that the system of trust in the form which it is now makes it difficult to find users with a good reputation in commerce. It would be good if the existing system were divided into two components:
- a system of trust for abuse
- a system of trust in commercial matters.
I have some ideas about it.I think that the system of trust in the form which it is now makes it difficult to find users with a good reputation in commerce. It would be good if the existing system were divided into two components:
- a system of trust for abuse
- a system of trust in commercial matters.
First, it is too complicated to manage the risks of manipulations/ abusements.
Secondly, if there will be two trust system (one of abusements, and another one for commercial matters - as you sugggested), it will raise the need on other systems.
Why?
In the forum, there are so many kinds of services run, and Escrow service is just only one of them.
In my opinion, to get trust from forum community, Escrow service providers should create their CV spreadsheet on all done-Escrows, and might let the link in their profile page (in signature, in website, etc.)
Of course, forum users should be responsible by doing their own research/ search on potential Escrow service providers they interested to hire.
To sum up, I disagreed with the OP's ideas.
Disagree, just like all the others... If this proposal would make it to production, and the *sshat that gave me -ve ever makes it to DT, i would show as having risked about 1 million BTC. I doubt anybody that wanted to do business with me would bother to check out his link and find out it's completely a completely offtopic, wrong and insane feedback from an a-level troll disguised as an honerable member.
There is no way to factcheck these inputs and avoid abusers to enter massive amounts without any proof...
I don't see how this is an argument really. An *invalid* rating is an invalid rating, regardless of the amount of bitcoin wagered.There is no way to factcheck these inputs and avoid abusers to enter massive amounts without any proof...
You could make your argument against the entire trust system..?
- Which would be weird, because the chances of a troll who is leaving fake ratings to get on DT2/DT1 seems extremely small?
You have an interesting idea. But will it lead to an increase in fraudsters?
I think that the system of trust in the form which it is now makes it difficult to find users with a good reputation in commerce. It would be good if the existing system were divided into two components:
- a system of trust for abuse
- a system of trust in commercial matters.
It will probably most definitely increase the amount of unnecessary loans/trades people make with users on DT1 just so they can up their % bitcoin risked, for whatever purpose they may have.I think that the system of trust in the form which it is now makes it difficult to find users with a good reputation in commerce. It would be good if the existing system were divided into two components:
- a system of trust for abuse
- a system of trust in commercial matters.
Also, as jack mentioned, this system would only work one way -> For "Positive deals".
Trust has its own meaning in the bitcointalk forum class in Bitcoin transactions or nouns so that trust can state the name of a person, place, or all objects and everything that.
Here is clearly a difference of opinion:
There are two different things,
(green): Meaning, Belief assumption or that something that is trusted is true or real and belief (will be honesty, kindness, and so on).
(Red): meaning, belief in presumption or no belief in the sense of guilt.
so it could be wrong if given like this symbolic BTC.
Here is clearly a difference of opinion:
There are two different things,
(green): Meaning, Belief assumption or that something that is trusted is true or real and belief (will be honesty, kindness, and so on).
(Red): meaning, belief in presumption or no belief in the sense of guilt.
so it could be wrong if given like this symbolic BTC.
Example;
Positive= Trust: 150: -0 / +20 BTC: 250
Negative=Trust: 50: -5 / +0 BTC: 0.5
Positive= Trust: 150: -0 / +20 BTC: 250
Negative=Trust: 50: -5 / +0 BTC: 0.5
You have an interesting idea. But will it lead to an increase in fraudsters?
I think that the system of trust in the form which it is now makes it difficult to find users with a good reputation in commerce. It would be good if the existing system were divided into two components:
- a system of trust for abuse
- a system of trust in commercial matters.
I think that the system of trust in the form which it is now makes it difficult to find users with a good reputation in commerce. It would be good if the existing system were divided into two components:
- a system of trust for abuse
- a system of trust in commercial matters.
Multiple tagged from the same scam won't count toward risked btc value
We'd need to reprogram hilariousandco to do that with some fancy ai stuff. It's just not feasible.
If someone posts a bitcoin talk reference link and one posts an archive.is link for example. Or one posts a different risked btc. Maybe a user thought the scammer got away with 5btc and one thought it was 10?
It's a good idea its just hard to implement at all...
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i respect all your decisions.
Note: For risk amount to show on your profile it has to be from a DT member not just any forum user and if DT member are caught giving false risked bitcoin amount they'll be blacklist from DT and get red tagged by other DT members. Multiple tagged from the same scam won't count toward risked btc value
These might help reduce the level of false feedback from DT members and those tagged can alway appeal their cases if the risked btc value is a false one.
Note: For risk amount to show on your profile it has to be from a DT member not just any forum user and if DT member are caught giving false risked bitcoin amount they'll be blacklist from DT and get red tagged by other DT members. Multiple tagged from the same scam won't count toward risked btc value
These might help reduce the level of false feedback from DT members and those tagged can alway appeal their cases if the risked btc value is a false one.
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