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Topic: Suggestion: Raise merit requirements at the lower and highest ranks (@theymos) (Read 1335 times)

member
Activity: 280
Merit: 62

I do think that the merit requirements for ranks through Member through Sr. Member are currently optimal.  To rise in rank at the level permitted by activity currently requires earning merit at an average rate of just over +1/day.  I think that’s a reasonable expectation for an ordinary intelligent person who spends a moderate amount of time engaging in generally pleasant forum discussions.

But “Hero” and “Legendary” are such strong words; and the substance of successful ranking systems always holds the highest ranks to standards which not only increase, but accelerate.

Proud, unapologetic elitist though I am, I do not for one moment imagine that I be a superman.  If I can merit zero to Hero in four weeks, then surely any person who wishes to bear a rank and title of honour should be able to earn much more than a measly one merit per day.


Don’t simply be proud of these titles:  Make them signify an achievement to be proud of!



Ohhhh man, by reading the OP and the first pages of the thread I've understood that you have a kind perfectionism. But I want to tell you - you can already be proud of yourself and your merit amount! Because merit in my native language is also translated as honored. You are the only who is able to achieve this enormous amount of merits in a short time. By the 2019 you will get more than 5k merits, but you still won't be satisfied, I'm almost sure. Just enjoy that every top ranked member knows you by nickname, so you are already honored member of this forum.
As for me guys with merits are more honored than guys that were just registered couple years ago without earning any merit, so if your purpose is not earning money with your rank, just dont mind about it, and enjoy the forum atmosphere.
newbie
Activity: 179
Merit: 0
The majority of people here use this forum to gain knowledge about the crypto world and make money from either trading or mining or why not, both. Once you get to Full Member or Sr. Member status and you can use all the features of this forum like adding an avatar, linking the signature etc. you should be all set and you shouldn't care about gaining merit or activity anymore.
sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 350
Betting Championship betking.io/sports-leaderboard
@nullius

I would like to start by saying that maybe you should read (this thread), where I expressed my thoughts about the new merit system. This way you should have a clear view on what I think about the system.

As for your suggestion, I don't really have anything against it, because as you will understand after reading the above mentioned thread, I'm not concerned about my rank anymore, and I think this system is a good thing. The only thing I don't agree after reading your post, is when you say that getting merit is easy, and for that reason the merit requirements should increase.

I don't have access to statistics, but if from all hero members when this system started, 50% or more already got the requirements to get to Legendary, then I would agree with you, but if the % is bellow 10% or 5%, then I would say that the requirements are fine. If you don't have access to that information, then maybe you can't say it's easy to rank.

This is me speculating now, but I do believe that if there were any statistics showing the % of users that were able to cross from hero to legendary, they would be quite low. This probably means that you are the exception to this system and not the rule, so the requirements are probably fine.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514


So.. why not add a rank or two?  Seriously, who does it hurt?


Nullius is really unique member by the speed of Merit making, but I doubt the forum is going to be changed just for him  Cheesy
But the point about new rank is still open. The only change that we really need is "Banned" rank or some mark in profiles of those users who have temporary or permanent ban. This topic was discussed for several times already and I think this change would improve work of the forum indeed.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 16
Some user agree with the OP and some are not. but i notice that some user here agreed that create a level above legendary.  But what about make the higher rank like HERO and Legendary like this.  add another system to that specific rank  like adding  a "Premium merit" that only the mods and theymos can give them. because being a hero and legendary is a proof that your performance is beyond to other user's and your experience is well enough to say that your position is suit to you.  I think the OP wants to say that show and prove the other user that  your worthy enough to that position..

But i think its not necessary and i do believe the main reason of this merit is to reduce spammer,alt accounts or to slow them down. to become more informative forum and to grow more in the future do you imagine when you browse this forum  and you want know something about bitcoin or search for specific topic. make some clicks then you got it. so easy to get info, so many recommendations you dont need to ask for it, to become like GOOGLE or YAHOO but for bitcoin and altcoins only. if that happen i think no spam and no alt accounts.  even your a junior member and you join a campaign the rate is fairly enough or much higher than today. because any or what kind of rank you have it doesn't matter as long as you contribute a quality informative post. unlike today even your a member rank in a campaign its not enough because even some high rank is spammers and have  alt accounts.
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2504
Spear the bees
when refreshing/reloading one's browser after sending the merit - doing this tends to send our more merit even without the benefactor's knowledge.
src: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32316923

"One way you can prevent this problem is by limiting "merit send" requests for a given post to 1 per 5 minutes (or some arbitrary time). That would prevent most of the problems, kind of similar to the anti-spam posting/PM/report/feedback restrictions." - actmyname
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1208
Once a man, twice a child!
A little deviation since Theymos can easily be reached here. Please don't see it as a complete off track.

I think there should be a deviced way the sMerit can be reversed (undone) if given in error. Let's say double clicked or sent twice without realizing it actually went through the first time or when refreshing/reloading one's browser after sending the merit - doing this tends to send our more merit even without the benefactor's knowledge. Can Theymos please fix this?

I am not sure anyone has brought this issue up but I don't want to pile up on the Merit system this and that by starting a thread on this.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 326
Politeness: 1227: - 0 / +1
I didn't read the entire content of the thread since I understand you main intention. You want to raised the required merits of Hero to Legendary members and even Jr. Members and Members rank. I understand what goal you are willing to achieve but it will not be that easy. I fully disagree to this one. I think you can just say such things because you are extraordinary, unlike other members  you can get merits per day and as a result, your merits describes that you deserved to be a Hero member now. Gaining merits are very difficult for other members (like me) , we need to give our full effort to conduct research about our desired Topic before we make topics/threads, and that is very difficult for non-crypto-professionals like us, Unlike you with a crypto professionalism.

All I'm trying to say is, It is unfair for lower members and also for Sr. Members and Hero to implement this proposal/idea of yours. We all know that gaining merits is not as easy as gaining likes from facebook and twitter. This is somehow making hard to harder. You are lucky that you are now famous here because of your big contributions to this forum and it is easy for you to get merits. You are already making good suggestions and proposals for the improvement of the forum and seems like looking now for power but sometimes, not being content can lead to bad/negative result.  Please don't make it harder for other members to rank if they really deserve it. Please learn to satisfied to Mr. Theymos's rules about Merits . I know there are still some issues in the forum which we need to improve but. I highly doubt that this one is not included.
legendary
Activity: 3710
Merit: 10196
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
theymos is a genius. He covertly created the most precious forum currency ever. I wonder how much time it would take for merit to get pegged to the Bitcoin value. Inb4 we get a thriving merit market Grin Wooooohooooo guys remember I said it first  Grin

QFT(lack thereof)


I will try to remember that you are coming off as a deceptive exaggeration of an idiot who wants to proclaim doom and gloom while hoping to be correction and failing to recognize value.

Nice Pajeet's level of grammar skills dude  Grin Suits you very well!  Wink

Before I typed my above response to your nonsensical earlier post, I quickly glanced at your post history, and I kind of anticipated that you would have the capabilities of a reptile in your non-sequitur...

Oh gosh, my prediction skills are getting better and better.

legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036
theymos is a genius. He covertly created the most precious forum currency ever. I wonder how much time it would take for merit to get pegged to the Bitcoin value. Inb4 we get a thriving merit market Grin Wooooohooooo guys remember I said it first  Grin

QFT(lack thereof)


I will try to remember that you are coming off as a deceptive exaggeration of an idiot who wants to proclaim doom and gloom while hoping to be correction and failing to recognize value.

Nice Pajeet's level of grammar skills dude  Grin Suits you very well!  Wink
legendary
Activity: 3710
Merit: 10196
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
theymos is a genius. He covertly created the most precious forum currency ever. I wonder how much time it would take for merit to get pegged to the Bitcoin value. Inb4 we get a thriving merit market Grin Wooooohooooo guys remember I said it first  Grin

QFT(lack thereof)


I will try to remember that you are coming off as a deceptive exaggeration of an idiot who wants to proclaim doom and gloom while hoping to be correction and failing to recognize value.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do
I agree there should be a change, I don't personally care what it goes to as I don't struggle to gain merits as I am rather controversial in my posts.. others who don't have a niche IE - controversial, great poster or generally popular people may struggle to get to the levels you have suggested.

Even raising the required merits by 20% would be enough to fuck every pajeet shitposter in the arse.. no need to go further than that - 100 extra for hero and 200 for legendary would 100% turn Pajeets into full on monkey spaz merit hate.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036
theymos is a genius. He covertly created the most precious forum currency ever. I wonder how much time it would take for merit to get pegged to the Bitcoin value. Inb4 we get a thriving merit market Grin Wooooohooooo guys remember I said it first  Grin
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 171
I've seen more than about 20+ complains about the merit feature, saying that it's too difficult to receive one even thou He/she make a very constructive and quality post, HAHA, what i do, when I want their eyes to be open, is i explain that this merit is for the benefit of the forum and it's members, I challenge them to Search about Nullius, if they Do post Like nullius then complaining is worth of. Maybe they'll get shocked, OH WHAT THE F, Nullius a member before and now a full member and is ripe to be  a senior and  a Hero. HAHA
copper member
Activity: 434
Merit: 278
Offering Escrow 0.5 % fee
For Christ sake the thread was leading nowhere now.
Open a new thread for signature campaign and posting quality this is not the purpose of this thread.

Signature ad is not a problem in meta section holly molly, at the end of the day we all still talk about getting paid in posting and camp manager is incompetent there's no way it is a problem of this community.

but actmyname is correct they shouldn't be paid for a job they can't suffice/handle.
member
Activity: 168
Merit: 14
I am not against in merit system created by theymos and for me it is already fair enough and as we can see many members are struggling to gain merit me also, honestly i am not too good in english that is my main reason but for @nullius since he/she is one of the best poster in this forum he/she can get merit easily and not all people are like him/her and i am not agree for the suggestion to increase the required merit to rank up.
jr. member
Activity: 109
Merit: 1
Complete transparency on your charitable donations
In my part, there is nothing wrong with the merit calculation of Mr. Theymos but one thing that concern me is the part where we can have merits, if there's events for newbies to Jr. Member to join wherein we can earn them as rewards or something for winning or for the hardwork.
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 4
Hello,

I was just reading this thread... and I was wondering if what you're saying is true? Can someone really get 1 merit per day easily? It seems like a rather difficult goal.

I've perviewed many threads on here and rarely do I see the green italics above a post denoting someone was merited.

The system has only been in place for 44 days and there are hundreds of members that have received more than 44 merits so obviously, that is true.


I am sure that even 10 of these will not be members or below. I just remember one member doing this and he got lucky with one of his posts where merits were poured for praising the merit system when it was introduced. At time other members were complaining about the merit system and got negative replies from other members. That new member did the exact opposite and it worked. That pistt was not helpful to anyone , it was merited because senior members agreed to what he was saying.
member
Activity: 364
Merit: 46
The Idea of increasing the requirement merit for Jr. Member and Member rank is too good to benefit the forum, it can eliminate those farmers that stacked on Jr. Member and Newbies but in the other side I think there's no need in crease the merit requirement for those hero and legendary its useless now because those rank's will just get an additional merit, It can only cause lack of merit supply because of those high merit requirements.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 5531
Self-proclaimed Genius
January 25, 2018
Meta Board: (Merit Threads)
  • Members: This sucks, I'm 5-days away to rank up.
  • Legendaries: Live with it, it's for the benefit of the forum.
  • Members: Okay Undecided
  • Spammers: Hell no, merit is not working Cry

March 13, 2018
Meta Board: Raise merit requirements at the lower and highest ranks (@theymos)
  • Legendaries: Ranks don't matter (Please don't)

hahah, I see what you did there.

I agree to increase the Merit requirement for the lower ranks but the higher ranks are partly debatable.
Once I said:
Perhaps, since spam has been being brought by bounties, and 0 merit to become a Jr Member to be able to join Altcoin bounties can be achieved by spamming, +5 merit should be required for newbies to become Jr and increase the Member merit requirement.
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