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Really good to see that the companies related to Roger Ver are re-evaluating their privacy and security policies after he broke his privacy policy. Blockchain and Bitinstant in particular are such important and innovative businesses, it would be a shame to see them tainted by this mistake. I don't have time to read this entire thread, so I'm not sure if it has been mentioned before, but it would be nice if these companies had their privacy policies verified with trustE or a similar service.
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Your sharedKey was contained within the information posted. This key gives someone the ability to authenticate themselves with blockchain.info as the owner of that wallet, including the ability to overwrite it.

WHAT?

Could you explain this process how that happened?

I understood earlier from explanations from both Roger and blockchain.info representatives that the information available to admins from looking up the information based on an address does not give information that would allow the admin to authenticate to blockchain.info posing as the wallet owner. Now that has happened? The impossible thing?

Have the explanations from representatives of blockchain.info about the capabilities what could be done with the information available by this admin panel lookup have they been entirely truthful?

What information you have about WHO has authenticated into blockchain.info posing as as nethead?

What did blockchain.info do in order to protect the user whose information was widely known to be publicly available and so likely target of abuses?

I see this issue potentially as the one biggest concern over anything else in this whole saga, so please explain.
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Maybe Nethead you should change your name to DICKHEAD.
It's really simple you fucked up he fucked up but your denying you fucked up so your a dickhead.

This isn't that hard is it ?

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Ok mofo im a dickhead, but for what?
Also if you change yours to "videos4dick" or "dick4btc" first, i will try to change mine, promise.-

Notice how his point still stands do you admit you done anything wrong?
Just ignore Nethead aka Dickhead he's a troll .


Yeah right, now im a troll... But you are another victim of Roger's marketing/advertising attempt.

Nethead, it's possible that you have people leaning toward your way of thinking, but as you continue the current route you're taking, those same people will start abandoning their new found position.

Case in point, I stand fully behind Roger, albeit possibly not as close as prior to this episode thanks to you. This is not meant as a diss toward you or Roger, but by choosing your words more carefully, you'll be able retain those in your camp. Likewise, by becoming silent, possibly retains the same amount of people. But continue the diatribe, you'll have a massive campfire, but not many around to enjoy it.

To be clear, I'm not trying to silence you. I'm merely saying to state your facts in a softer tone. Remember the adage: You get more with honey than with vinegar.

~Bruno K~
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Maybe Nethead you should change your name to DICKHEAD.
It's really simple you fucked up he fucked up but your denying you fucked up so your a dickhead.

This isn't that hard is it ?

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Ok mofo im a dickhead, but for what?
Also if you change yours to "videos4dick" or "dick4btc" first, i will try to change mine, promise.-

Notice how his point still stands do you admit you done anything wrong?
Just ignore Nethead aka Dickhead he's a troll .


Yeah right, now im a troll... But you are another victim of Roger's marketing/advertising attempt.
legendary
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Maybe Nethead you should change your name to DICKHEAD.
It's really simple you fucked up he fucked up but your denying you fucked up so your a dickhead.

This isn't that hard is it ?

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Ok mofo im a dickhead, but for what?
Also if you change yours to "videos4dick" or "dick4btc" first, i will try to change mine, promise.-

Notice how his point still stands do you admit you done anything wrong?
Just ignore Nethead aka Dickhead he's a troll .
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BUT removed the two factor validator for me (yes the good guy piuk) and changed my password, AS i cannot login to the message of something like "invalid password" or "this wallet could not be decrypted, try again".

Your sharedKey was contained within the information posted. This key gives someone the ability to authenticate themselves with blockchain.info as the owner of that wallet, including the ability to overwrite it.

The coins will be safe though. I have emailed you 6 recent backups of the wallet. They can either be imported into Multibit (http://multibit.org) or imported into a new wallet at https://blockchain.info/wallet/import-wallet. You are welcome to continue using blockchain.info if you desire.
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Meanwhile, NetHead has published his own personal information and continues to keep the BTC that were accidentally sent to him.
He never gave them back?  Shocked
Nope.
nope? you are a total retard . . .
No, but it looks like you may be, otherwise you would see that my post was made 31 hours before this post of yours:

. . . He got his money back after all this happened . . .

You expect me to see into the future and know what you are going to post in 31 hours?


I take that word back but he has got "his" monies back BEFORE this thread and you mislead others
legendary
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WTF. You don't demand apologies, you let people decide for themselves if they wish to give them, and let everyone else judge the outcome. An apology from nethead would only have improved his standing in the community, not Roger's, and now that we know that one was publicly demanded, that option to possibly clear up his reputation was stolen from nethead.
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Meanwhile, NetHead has published his own personal information and continues to keep the BTC that were accidentally sent to him.
He never gave them back?  Shocked
Nope.
nope? you are a total retard . . .
No, but it looks like you may be, otherwise you would see that my post was made 31 hours before this post of yours:

. . . He got his money back after all this happened . . .

You expect me to see into the future and know what you are going to post in 31 hours?
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
I’ve quietly watched quite a few major players here self destruct over the past couple of years. Bruce Wagner, Peter Lambert, Zhou Tong, Matthew Wright, Chaang Noi, Trendon Shavers, James McCarthy, Vladimir Marchenko were all accepted as champions of Bitcoin as some point in its short history. For all I’ve seen and for as long as I’ve been following this dog and pony show I felt nothing could shock me anymore. I was wrong. I would never have expected this kind of behavior from Roger Ver!

Roger isn’t just one of the normal zit-faced kids that come here screaming, “look at me – look at me – I’m running a business.” This guy has a brick-and-mortar store where “regular people” walk in and buy goods. What do you think would happen Roger if you released personal info on someone in San Jose that used a check to buy something at your Santa Clara store? Should I put this thread on Yelp so that California knows how you do business? Very sad my friend, very sad.
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This whole situation has convinced me not to consider ever purchasing from bitcoinstore, and to discourage any others I know from purchasing from there either.
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What blows my mind more than anything about all this vindictive drama is that it concerned such a petty amount. The same thing happened when bitinstant released all that info on Zhou Tong. I'm shocked that we didn't learn anything from that mistake.

I won't be boycotting any companies, but this has been a major disappointment to me. IMHO, it's also not wise to ask the admins to "please delete" the original thread. Some, though not I, would perceive that as a dishonest motion.
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Maybe Nethead you should change your name to DICKHEAD.

It's really simple you fucked up he fucked up but your denying you fucked up so your a dickhead.

This isn't that hard is it ?

Ok mofo im a dickhead, but for what?
Also if you change yours to "videos4dick" or "dick4btc" first, i will try to change mine, promise.-

-----videos4btc reply ends here -----

Things that happened:

1. I tried to order from that DAMNED store, and i PAID (hmm i see the scam here somewhere eh???)

2. They obviously didnt want to mark as "gift" thats what i was asking for, and yes that was for tax purposes. Call me a scammer for that, let me tell you that bitcoin is indeed a scam coin, do you pay TAXES with your bitcois? ARE your bitcoins TAXED? How do you pay a tax with bitcoin? Oh, the 0.0005 fee, right.. (keep #2 as i will speak later more about it)

3. I asked for a refund that was actually given to me, plus a 4.5 btc the next day (the ultra-super-duper-retarded dude who worked on that got my payment address in his fucking site (if we believe that a customer paid to that address, but that wasnt even proven, one time he says "Bit*" paid, then says "oh noes, it wasnt him, it was another customer" SO WHOS MONEY WAS THAT REALLY? (mine at that point, and call me a dick)

4. He elevated my privacy to over 100.000 persons (73000 members only here as someone else mentions), and i am a fucking scam? His bussiness is a total scam.

As i have post earlier i wouldnt go on with this kind of posts here, and i would have given an end. BUT NO.

He still pm's me threats, so i will still hate on him as much as i can



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#2*: I am a fucking CRIMINAL for asking him if he could mark it as gift? And afterwards accepting his answer, refunded (with a plus)?
You are a fucking ignorant with absolutely no knowledge on the word criminal. Or now you care about goverments taxations?? Come on we will pay with bitcoins..
Criminal related things: guns, drugs, murder, #4, burglar an many many more, also accepting what you call money (bitcoins), GPU-generated numbers that only use they have is FRAUD itself

ok for that last i maybe am.

I am a SCAMMER? In what way did i scam? By accepting funds? Or lie==scam? My mistakes where many but none of them is that i didnt have given back the 4 fucking btc
I am a THIEF? So did i hack into his systems, or broke into his house? Or into his bussiness? Thats the fucking nature of bitcoin, you send money, the other party accepts, if you done that by mistake, well go cry somewhere else, but without private info that someone trusted you to hadle.

The uber frustrating thing of all of them together is that after what he caused and got "his" money back, still came online to threat me of getting my info online again if i do not apologize.

For the fatfucks/nolifers that seek "legal" view on bitcoins, give me one government paper that states about them, they simply do not exist. Show me some legal info about those. SOME not much. I like the idea of free market and support bitcoin but some of you guys are total idiots, IRL I could involve goverments/police/legalshit, Roger could not, no matter how you see it. All the morals and other shit i read on hear are pure b/s.

The other fatfucks/nolifers that said the fuckin awesome "we do not need you in bitcoin community" OMG!! I better go cry, I have done nothing wrong and Im pretty sure that are 10000% worse persons than me, You just all found a person to tell your inner worlds problems.  And "WE" who we? all i saw was people arguing for unexistant morals (and i was one of them), "community", my ass... Im here 2-3 days, and all i see is hate, you all hate each other for what communitty we talk about?

12 year olds who say "ok now i know that i shouldnt do bussiness with nethead", yes indeed, put your coins in your butt, and if you need more i can send mine. WHO THE FUCK CARES WHO YOU SHOULD DO BUSSINESS WITH OR NOT?

Imagine the fucking thing happened to you, as anybody could have ordered from there. The only dishonest man is Roger, not me. As some posts pointed me to his past, all the money he has is (maybe) "fraudulent", and you cared about 4.5 btc, BUT NOT for 30 which i got scammed by bitexchange on another thread, MORALS YOU SAY? I SAY ROGER   (by "you" i mean members of this forum)

I do not care who he is, and why some respect him so much but what he did was wrong, and if you say the opposite, i know you know that deeply inside you. So i do not care what you say about "nethead".
After his fucking message that continues threats im fucking disgusted of this person, AND I REALLY, I MEAN REALLY, I am glad that all this happened and he showed who he is, even if that makes me an ashole x2.


more about BLOCKCHAIN.INFO

How the fuck do you dare to say something is FIXED, that it obviously not, well not completely. As i explain in previous post my account is still in exist (if it got banned i would understand that, but even that does not have a reason), BUT removed the two factor validator for me (yes the good guy piuk) and changed my password, AS i cannot login to the message of something like "invalid password" or "this wallet could not be decrypted, try again". (Dont have my word on it, becouse i may be wrong on this subject and would like a piuk-reply here, maybe something else happened to it... and would be interesting to hear about.)

Yea it is safe, go put your btc there, and hope you never get locked out of your account.

Subnote: Things that i have done: 1. Recieved bitcoins 2. Lied about them for the wierd guy he was 3. REFUNDED THEM 4. Ask him nicely to remove any post regarding me, and promise to remove any post about it. 5. Got the reply above (threat)

 

 enough for today
 
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Maybe Nethead you should change your name to DICKHEAD.

It's really simple you fucked up he fucked up but your denying you fucked up so your a dickhead.

This isn't that hard is it ?
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SERIOUS UPDATE:[/size]

He got his money back after all this happened(there was only one thread, and that locked when he recieved the payment, but im not really sure on that, anyway it was at about that time), after admiting it was his fault, and after i had no serious reason to give them back to him. NOW he sends me a pm telling me that:

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Sorry for the slow reply.

Please post in these two threads:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/summary-of-the-events-last-night-and-an-apology-131678
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/memorydealerscom-founder-roger-ver-abuses-admin-access-at-blockchaininfo-131608

Something along the lines of

I publicly apologize for lying to Roger Ver of MemoryDealers and Bitcoinstore and for denying that I even had his money.
In fact,  I did have it,  and have now returned it.
What I did was wrong, and I'm sorry for the trouble that I have caused for everyone.
I will work to be a more honest person in the future,

Nethead  (Your real name here if you wish)

Once you post that,  I will gladly remove the rest of your information from the forum.

My reply:

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You arent going to ask for more to remove what you shouldnt have ever posted right? Are you?
Havent seen if you did removed the private info, and messaged members who have quoted that info in their posts to do so, but you have to.

If you keep asking me to do what you say your messages will go to the mods. Who do you think you are to tell me what to write? I did nothing wrong, my hands are clear AND you got FULL of what you sent me by your mistake.

So go on, its your turn now to contact mods to remove any info from the locked thread (they told so) and some members on the unlocked one to remove my info from quote in their posts, this is your responsibility

(i have just waken, so i will not be around for sme hours, i will come back later)

And his final reply here:

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You are the one who lied, tried to steal from me,  and caused all the trouble.
If you continue to refuse to own up to it,  I will put your information back online for the trouble maker and liar that you are.

It is up to you,

Roger



Is this real world? What the fuck did i did to deserve this fucking thing, even after paying him back, which i did because i wanted to (ok, also wanted my info to be removed)
NOW he threatens to put it back? REALLY?

If one has to apologize for anything, is a thing that he will do alone, noone has to tell him to do so (to promote others bussiness)
After all you have to recover my reputation, not me yours.


requoting for retards who cannot read threads
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Meanwhile, NetHead has published his own personal information and continues to keep the BTC that were accidentally sent to him.

He never gave them back?  Shocked
Nope.
nope? you are a total retard.
most of you here are (sorry for random posts, just reading thread random)


dude, at least you could have given it back. Don't be an idiot and think you are some saint.
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Meanwhile, NetHead has published his own personal information and continues to keep the BTC that were accidentally sent to him.

He never gave them back?  Shocked
Nope.
nope? you are a total retard.
most of you here are (sorry for random posts, just reading thread random)
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A very nice apology followed up with threats...
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