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October 27, 2019, 10:13:44 AM
#25
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Many registrars offering free whois privacy, it does not mean much.

I was making fun of something else.
Yeah, many registrars do, but only for the first domain bought, just like godaddy does that 80% of the first sale.

The funny part is that he activated the whois for the first but didn't buy one for the .org and for this last one, leaving clear traces to connect the dots. Well, he did use the same user for both ANN but, just saying...
Sidenote I find whois privacy stupid for ICOs, you're supposed to put on the pictures and names of your team members along with all their profiles, what is the reason to use it, other than ...you're using fake names and addresses!

Anyhow, this is simply another crappy project with empty promises..dunno if it's tag worthy, no DT member has done it yet either.


I think that we should wait for the further development of events, and even then it will be possible to observe what exactly this project will turn out to be.  As in most cases it happens, first something should already happen as an indisputable fact, and only then will everyone begin to react.  unequivocally the first to start shouting are members of the Bounty companies who do not receive their tens of thousands of dollars.    Cheesy
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
October 23, 2019, 02:10:09 AM
#24
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Many registrars offering free whois privacy, it does not mean much.

I was making fun of something else.
Yeah, many registrars do, but only for the first domain bought, just like godaddy does that 80% of the first sale.

The funny part is that he activated the whois for the first but didn't buy one for the .org and for this last one, leaving clear traces to connect the dots. Well, he did use the same user for both ANN but, just saying...
Sidenote I find whois privacy stupid for ICOs, you're supposed to put on the pictures and names of your team members along with all their profiles, what is the reason to use it, other than ...you're using fake names and addresses!

Anyhow, this is simply another crappy project with empty promises..dunno if it's tag worthy, no DT member has done it yet either.

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October 22, 2019, 10:08:45 AM
#23
And if you follow the site link and pay attention to its design, then its appearance resembles the last century and confirms that no one tried to invest at least a little money in this resource.  

It's just a free script from https://www.humhub.org/en with the default theme.
All they changed was the logo and the name/description of the website.
Checking the nameservers it seems it's hosted on some cheap vps with a thousand other websites.

Oh, and they didn't have money for whois privacy:
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Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Danny Argent
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: FCT Abuja
Registrant City: Abuja
Registrant State/Province: FCT
Registrant Postal Code: 00234
Registrant Country: NG
Registrant Phone: +234.7061512097
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

And the OP previous project seems to be dead
[ANN][FIN] Finatch Decentralized Crypto exchange | $FIN PoW/PoS Blockchain

but finatch.org....is also now a Swirge clone.






I believe that people who promote this project should respond to all the reviews that are written about their project, but nevertheless there is no reaction to date.  I know that many times in personal messages they even turned to the manager, but still there are no adequate explanations.  I believe that after a while we will be convinced of the fidelity of our beliefs.
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
October 21, 2019, 04:52:43 AM
#22


Oh, and they didn't have money for whois privacy:
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Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Danny Argent
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: FCT Abuja
Registrant City: Abuja
Registrant State/Province: FCT
Registrant Postal Code: 00234
Registrant Country: NG
Registrant Phone: +234.7061512097
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Many registrars offering free whois privacy, it does not mean much.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
October 21, 2019, 02:58:57 AM
#21
And if you follow the site link and pay attention to its design, then its appearance resembles the last century and confirms that no one tried to invest at least a little money in this resource.  

It's just a free script from https://www.humhub.org/en with the default theme.
All they changed was the logo and the name/description of the website.
Checking the nameservers it seems it's hosted on some cheap vps with a thousand other websites.

Oh, and they didn't have money for whois privacy:
Quote
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Danny Argent
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: FCT Abuja
Registrant City: Abuja
Registrant State/Province: FCT
Registrant Postal Code: 00234
Registrant Country: NG
Registrant Phone: +234.7061512097
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

And the OP previous project seems to be dead
[ANN][FIN] Finatch Decentralized Crypto exchange | $FIN PoW/PoS Blockchain

but finatch.org....is also now a Swirge clone.





legendary
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Merit: 1272
Heisenberg
October 20, 2019, 03:59:27 AM
#20
In this case, the Bounty company has already come up with to offer not only its tokens for the work done, but also the minimum amount of Bitcoin in order to attract more participants..
Lol, i also saw the new bounty thread earlier on. The amount of bitcoins offered is not even worth a normal bitcoin transaction fee. Any bounty hunter who joins this campaign would be so gullible.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
October 20, 2019, 01:20:59 AM
#19
I think that they added BTC as reward to be able to post their bounty in Service section, with all those other BTC campaigns. But the amount of BTC they offer is ridiculous, for a Steemit article with 500+ upvotes they offer 0.00001000 BTC and 1000  OKU. No one in their right mind will even bother to do that, it might only attract someone to wrote some useless c/p.

They are a bit too aggressive and it might backfire.
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October 20, 2019, 12:11:20 AM
#18
I understand that the guys are not going to give up and are starting to offer more and more dubious offers for bitcointalk users.  
October 19  placed another topic in the Marketplace: Service:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52813419.
 In this case, the Bounty company has already come up with to offer not only its tokens for the work done, but also the minimum amount of Bitcoin in order to attract more participants.  But in my opinion this is another manipulation, because their actions aimed at making the Bounty company offer similar to the most popular bounty companies on bitcointalk, which pay rewards in Bitcoin.  Definitely, such a Bounty company will attract only stupid participants, because no one will believe in their promise.  This whole company will fly out very suspiciously, because if professionals worked on this project, then they would analyze the market and understand that such a high price of the token is unrealistic for them.  And to promise such an overly unnatural reward for the participants is another manipulation.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
October 19, 2019, 01:11:10 PM
#17
...Seems like you underestimated level of greed and lack of judgment of an average bounty hunter. Despite all those red flags, almost 50 people already joined signature campaign...
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I have not seen so many participants in this campaign signature. Spreadsheet reveals that only 6 members joined Signature Campaign Swirge. We wish them good luck)

Ah you are right, i stand corrected,thank you. What i actually saw was Facebook part of the campaign with that many participants. I shouldn't write early in the morning before i had my coffee Tongue
legendary
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To the Moon
October 19, 2019, 12:40:47 PM
#16
...Seems like you underestimated level of greed and lack of judgment of an average bounty hunter. Despite all those red flags, almost 50 people already joined signature campaign...
...
I have not seen so many participants in this campaign signature. Spreadsheet reveals that only 6 members joined Signature Campaign Swirge. We wish them good luck)
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October 19, 2019, 10:45:31 AM
#15
I understand what you are hinting at, but I believe that not only the hunter, but also the bounty team of the company must fulfill all the conditions of the transaction.  In my case, the spreadsheet has not been updated for four weeks now and no one answers questions.  Each of us must value our work.  If not us, then who?  Wink
Like what i said, make your own DD.

First of all, you want to talk about what? The distribution token for the bounty campaign or the bounty update spreadsheet, you started the thread topic and discuss about how the reward distribution, not the bounty update.

About the bounty spreadsheet is the duty of "Bounty Manager", you should ask him. Since the team hiring a non-popular BM without some portfolio don't hope too much from the BM for the progress of bounty.

I’m sorry, friend, apparently I really didn’t understand you, because we are talking about the corresponding bounty company, and I took the answer to my account.  I apologize.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1262
October 19, 2019, 10:03:35 AM
#14
I understand what you are hinting at, but I believe that not only the hunter, but also the bounty team of the company must fulfill all the conditions of the transaction.  In my case, the spreadsheet has not been updated for four weeks now and no one answers questions.  Each of us must value our work.  If not us, then who?  Wink
Like what i said, make your own DD.

First of all, you want to talk about what? The distribution token for the bounty campaign or the bounty update spreadsheet, you started the thread topic and discuss about how the reward distribution, not the bounty update.

About the bounty spreadsheet is the duty of "Bounty Manager", you should ask him. Since the team hiring a non-popular BM without some portfolio don't hope too much from the BM for the progress of bounty.
legendary
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Merit: 5937
October 19, 2019, 01:17:24 AM
#13

Regardless of what they offer, the end value is a token and likely will be worth a fraction of what they are advertising so it's likely that less than 20 users will even join the campaign.




Seems like you underestimated level of greed and lack of judgment of an average bounty hunter. Despite all those red flags, almost 50 people already joined signature campaign...

What is even worse, after bounty is over  they will expect that those tokens will worth all those thousands of dollars as promised, but of course that won't be the case. And then some of them will come here and cry how they have been scammed and whatnot.

In so many cases bounty hunters are as much as responsible as those that create these kind of bounty campaigns. If bounty hunters do their own due diligence and choose projects wisely, there would be way less shitty bounty campaigns.
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October 18, 2019, 11:28:07 PM
#12
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Seem like you already know how to make due-diligence for some bounty. Then just use your own DD, if you feel the bounty not really realistic based on your survey/review then avoid. A good user always makes their own DD no just using a popularity BM Name, except for a bounty who just rushed went new bounty was born.
I understand what you are hinting at, but I believe that not only the hunter, but also the bounty team of the company must fulfill all the conditions of the transaction.  In my case, the spreadsheet has not been updated for four weeks now and no one answers questions.  Each of us must value our work.  If not us, then who?  Wink
legendary
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October 18, 2019, 10:20:53 PM
#11
Yeah, high reward, but also don't forget at the end of bounty you will get of this :

  • Cut Reward by Developer
  • Introduce KYC System went at the beginning they said we don't need to do a KYC (Classic Reason: To avoid cheating/fraud)
  • Delay Payment
  • Another Promise

Since the payment using a token, I'm not really surprised this it's not the first time i see a bounty with high estimation payment using a token. I have my own DD, this kind of bounty i will skip it cause the economy token prize will be destroyed with bounty hunter and just wasting my work.

-snip-
Seem like you already know how to make due-diligence for some bounty. Then just use your own DD, if you feel the bounty not really realistic based on your survey/review then avoid. A good user always makes their own DD no just using a popularity BM Name, except for a bounty who just rushed went new bounty was born.
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October 18, 2019, 01:23:20 PM
#10
Out of all the bounties that have been advertised on this forum, how many paid tokens that were actually worth something? I'm sure that number is under 10%. Out of all the bounties launched on this forum, how many were worth the value advertised in the bounty? I'll bet the answer to that is less than 1%.

Regardless of what they offer, the end value is a token and likely will be worth a fraction of what they are advertising so it's likely that less than 20 users will even join the campaign.



Many more people people will join this , not because they are paying high in tokens but because the duration of the campaign is only 4 weeks. I have seen people working for bounties 4 to 6 months and gets nothing is return. Short duration bounties are better and many will give it a try.
Greed is another factor which will make this campaign successful too  Cheesy
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October 18, 2019, 12:11:00 PM
#9
Out of all the bounties that have been advertised on this forum, how many paid tokens that were actually worth something? I'm sure that number is under 10%. Out of all the bounties launched on this forum, how many were worth the value advertised in the bounty? I'll bet the answer to that is less than 1%.

Regardless of what they offer, the end value is a token and likely will be worth a fraction of what they are advertising so it's likely that less than 20 users will even join the campaign.


dear yahoo62278, I know you as a truly professional and honest Bounty manager who thoroughly knows how this whole system works.  I completely agree with your opinion that most of the Bounty companies that operate today do not even fulfill a tenth of what they promised for hunters.  Nevertheless, I’m sure that you, as a Bounty manager, always control the quality of the work done by the Bounty Hunters, but in this case I doubt that the unknown person who controls the Swirge Bounty company will do it as well as you  .
20 Posts / 250 tokens = 5000 tokens per day,
5000 x $ 0.2 = $ 1000
"To promise does not mean to marry")
But the promise of large payouts for the bounty can be attributed to fraud. The ICO team must understand that it will not be able to pay $ 30,000 per month per participant. Nevertheless, she promises such payments. I think ICOs like Swirge will not be able to collect anything at all.
I want to draw your attention to the fact that the team stated that it was not going to conduct any ico.  This is another question that remains unanswered, where are they going to take that kind of money.
The reward is really very oily, even though most bounty companies do not pay what they promise.  Nevertheless, if a crowd of hunters gathers, because there are no restrictions, the work will be done enormously and completely for nothing.  20 posts a day is cool.  Grin
I am sure that because of this Bounty company, many forum participants will still suffer who will not delve into the essence of the problem and who will definitely be accused of spam.
legendary
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Heisenberg
October 18, 2019, 10:26:54 AM
#8
And again we calculate that:
 20 Posts / 250 tokens = 5000 tokens per day,
 5000 x $ 0.2 = $ 1000
How you calculated that price? even tokens not yet listed on any exchange?
The creators of the token just woke up one day and said "Hey, our token is worth $0.2"
This does not mean that when it hits the market it will sell at $0.2. People forget that market value of something is driven by demand and supply.

So what I am looking at is someone making 20 posts per day for 5000 tokens which will be worth $0.000001 per token when they get listed on exchanges. Literary someone could get $0.05 for every 20 posts. People should open eyes. This is not 2017 where ICO have hype and people are stupid to buy useless tokens from exchanges.
legendary
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To the Moon
October 18, 2019, 06:07:17 AM
#7
20 Posts / 250 tokens = 5000 tokens per day,
5000 x $ 0.2 = $ 1000
"To promise does not mean to marry")
But the promise of large payouts for the bounty can be attributed to fraud. The ICO team must understand that it will not be able to pay $ 30,000 per month per participant. Nevertheless, she promises such payments. I think ICOs like Swirge will not be able to collect anything at all.
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October 18, 2019, 03:43:59 AM
#6
The reward is really very oily, even though most bounty companies do not pay what they promise.  Nevertheless, if a crowd of hunters gathers, because there are no restrictions, the work will be done enormously and completely for nothing.  20 posts a day is cool.  Grin
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