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February 03, 2018, 11:43:30 AM
What value have BCA already?
February 03, 2018, 10:46:59 AM
BCA Person out there-
Do you have a timeline so this doesn't look like a high school project? Soon doesn't work.
Do you have a timeline so this doesn't look like a high school project? Soon doesn't work.
February 03, 2018, 08:22:03 AM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
Do you think BCA could be succesful?What would be a usecase which is not already there ten times. Maybe there will be a pump sometime bit I don't gamble.
I will sell as soon there is a mainnet, if ever.
Swaps are nice but why would I swap into this. I stick with Bitcoin that tech I can believe in they try to copy.
I alone could start a coin like this trust come through development and adoption, this has 0.
Coming from a guy who has some DOGE (because it is cool to have it)
Guess what I will buy from potentially selling this. 
February 03, 2018, 08:15:38 AM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
Do you think BCA could be succesful? February 03, 2018, 06:30:30 AM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
Do you think BCA could be succesful? February 03, 2018, 06:16:04 AM
Here's my issue: One, if you didn't have the code already working, why would you not then DELAY the fork? That part, you can get from a dozen github repos, the most currently famous being BCH.
Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?
And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.
What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.
BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.
OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???
As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.
The more I look into this the more it screams scam IMO. To top it all off the only exchange this is listed on is Yobit which looks like a scam exchange itself based off hundreds of complaints.Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?
And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.
What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.
BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.
OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???
As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.
Does Yobit let you withdraw BTC yet or is there a contract deadline date? If they do can anyone confirm they have withdrawn their BTC?
It smells the very same than Bitcoin Interest, which is definitely a big scam, please see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29489124 and following post
See also how the "team" answered bulls to my questions post after post, thinking that people could swallow this
Then I ask again the very same question to Atom but I don't expect to get any answer
Go away from this one too
February 02, 2018, 07:28:08 PM
Here's my issue: One, if you didn't have the code already working, why would you not then DELAY the fork? That part, you can get from a dozen github repos, the most currently famous being BCH.
Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?
And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.
What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.
BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.
OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???
As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.
The more I look into this the more it screams scam IMO. To top it all off the only exchange this is listed on is Yobit which looks like a scam exchange itself based off hundreds of complaints.Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?
And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.
What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.
BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.
OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???
As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.
Does Yobit let you withdraw BTC yet or is there a contract deadline date? If they do can anyone confirm they have withdrawn their BTC?
February 02, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
do you think this token will success?We certainly hope it will be a success - working hard on it.
https://medium.com/the-litecoin-school-of-crypto/the-case-for-litecoin-via-atomic-swaps-e825b0ec078
I'd value it at about $ 15-20 like Bitcore fork. Now I don't even trust their claims and still no source.
February 02, 2018, 01:54:03 PM
Here's my issue: One, if you didn't have the code already working, why would you not then DELAY the fork? That part, you can get from a dozen github repos, the most currently famous being BCH.
Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?
And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.
What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.
BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.
OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???
As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.
Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?
And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.
What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.
BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.
OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???
As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.
February 02, 2018, 01:43:57 PM
No full node wallet yet??
Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29331612
February 02, 2018, 01:33:29 PM
No full node wallet yet??
Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29331612
Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later
Of course we tested, and continuing to test, and will release all of the source code soon - it's extremely difficult to do what we did, as it's not just some fork, it's basically an exchange built into the protocol level of bitcoin - nobody has ever attempted such a thing before, it is very technologically difficult.
February 02, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
do you think this token will success?We certainly hope it will be a success - working hard on it.
February 02, 2018, 01:18:14 PM
No full node wallet yet??
Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29331612
Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later
Of course we tested, and continuing to test, and will release all of the source code soon - it's extremely difficult to do what we did, as it's not just some fork, it's basically an exchange built into the protocol level of bitcoin - nobody has ever attempted such a thing before, it is very technologically difficult.
Can you explain what you mean by 'exchange built in' I don't know what you mean by exchange
Please read the first post in this thread, regarding Atomic Swaps.
February 02, 2018, 01:17:44 PM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
do you think this token will success? February 02, 2018, 01:10:12 PM
No full node wallet yet??
Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29331612
Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later
Of course we tested, and continuing to test, and will release all of the source code soon - it's extremely difficult to do what we did, as it's not just some fork, it's basically an exchange built into the protocol level of bitcoin - nobody has ever attempted such a thing before, it is very technologically difficult.
Can you explain what you mean by 'exchange built in' I don't know what you mean by exchange
February 02, 2018, 01:08:53 PM
LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.
February 02, 2018, 01:03:53 PM
No full node wallet yet??
Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29331612
Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later
Of course we tested, and continuing to test, and will release all of the source code soon - it's extremely difficult to do what we did, as it's not just some fork, it's basically an exchange built into the protocol level of bitcoin - nobody has ever attempted such a thing before, it is very technologically difficult.
February 02, 2018, 12:32:11 PM
No full node wallet yet??
Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29331612
Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later
February 02, 2018, 11:05:40 AM
i can buy tokens in YObit but by the moment i can't use them is that what are you saying?
They're not tokens.
They're futures contracts.
They are a promise to deliver x number of BCA at Y price when/if the coins become available.
Crypto is a sketchy IMO. Lots of bullshit. Why the hell would someone pay for a future contract on an unreleased item with no product info. The price is based on conjecture in message boards and our disappointment.
February 02, 2018, 08:51:26 AM
i can buy tokens in YObit but by the moment i can't use them is that what are you saying?
They're not tokens.
They're futures contracts.
They are a promise to deliver x number of BCA at Y price when/if the coins become available.
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