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legendary
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So I finally got my long awaited bonus miner a week or two before easter only to find out that it was a PoS. The fans were not strong enough to do very much of anything, but I had the miners in a warehouse at 12 degrees celsius (don't know what that is in fahrenheit or zargons) so they should have been fine. But no, 4 out of 5 cubes overheated and turned off sections. So I was planning to get some new fans, some cooling pads for the power regulators and put some new cooling paste on the chips, but until then I would just run them heavily underclocked.

However during the easter holidays the whole miner just dropped off the grid. When I came to the site all the PSUs were running, so no major power failure like I saw on the Jupiter I have. Eventually I disconnected all the miners from the controller board and the board started flashing its lights at startup. I was hopeful. But the router never found the controller/Neptune. I suspect it might be the beagle (I have never seen such a scruffy beagle in my life, it looks like it had a lobotomy), but I don't know.

Does anyone have any ideas? If it can be fixed, what fans should I get?

When the controller flashes on boot.  Is it 3 short white or 1 longer white?  If it's 3, the controller is bad.  If none, then more likely bbb.  I have been able to use a new bbb on the controller board and it seems to work just fine.  I've also picked up some spare controller boards from folks getting rid of jupiter, saturn & mercury units.

I didn't bring the miner with me. I was in kind of in a hurry when I was at the site. I 'll check next time I'm there. BTW I have a Mercury with a fully functional controller board. Any link to how I can get that to play nice with the Neptune cubes?

Just flash the mercury with the neptune firmware, update to latest firmware and you are set. (except merc propbably only has 4 connections instead of 6.


I went down to the site this weekend and picked up the Mercury and the Neptune controller board. Haven't had time to test it though. Anyhew, it's getting warmer and it's not much point in doing the controller board bit without improving the cooling. The 3000rpm Noctua are a bit much to throw into this money pit so I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about these :

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=366

They are roughly 1/3 the price of the Noctuas, which is much more palatable considering the build quality and reliability of the Neptune thus far.

Depends on which Noctuas you want to compare it to.  You can get Noctuas with 3000 RPM.  So if your comparing to that it does not rank so well. But if it's a 2000 vs 2000 RPM I would think it would be ok.  (I disclose I have not used a silver stone tek fan I'm comparing RPM as that is more what I would worry about.)
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
So I finally got my long awaited bonus miner a week or two before easter only to find out that it was a PoS. The fans were not strong enough to do very much of anything, but I had the miners in a warehouse at 12 degrees celsius (don't know what that is in fahrenheit or zargons) so they should have been fine. But no, 4 out of 5 cubes overheated and turned off sections. So I was planning to get some new fans, some cooling pads for the power regulators and put some new cooling paste on the chips, but until then I would just run them heavily underclocked.

However during the easter holidays the whole miner just dropped off the grid. When I came to the site all the PSUs were running, so no major power failure like I saw on the Jupiter I have. Eventually I disconnected all the miners from the controller board and the board started flashing its lights at startup. I was hopeful. But the router never found the controller/Neptune. I suspect it might be the beagle (I have never seen such a scruffy beagle in my life, it looks like it had a lobotomy), but I don't know.

Does anyone have any ideas? If it can be fixed, what fans should I get?

When the controller flashes on boot.  Is it 3 short white or 1 longer white?  If it's 3, the controller is bad.  If none, then more likely bbb.  I have been able to use a new bbb on the controller board and it seems to work just fine.  I've also picked up some spare controller boards from folks getting rid of jupiter, saturn & mercury units.

I didn't bring the miner with me. I was in kind of in a hurry when I was at the site. I 'll check next time I'm there. BTW I have a Mercury with a fully functional controller board. Any link to how I can get that to play nice with the Neptune cubes?

Just flash the mercury with the neptune firmware, update to latest firmware and you are set. (except merc propbably only has 4 connections instead of 6.


I went down to the site this weekend and picked up the Mercury and the Neptune controller board. Haven't had time to test it though. Anyhew, it's getting warmer and it's not much point in doing the controller board bit without improving the cooling. The 3000rpm Noctua are a bit much to throw into this money pit so I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about these :

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=366

They are roughly 1/3 the price of the Noctuas, which is much more palatable considering the build quality and reliability of the Neptune thus far.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1013
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
So I finally got my long awaited bonus miner a week or two before easter only to find out that it was a PoS. The fans were not strong enough to do very much of anything, but I had the miners in a warehouse at 12 degrees celsius (don't know what that is in fahrenheit or zargons) so they should have been fine. But no, 4 out of 5 cubes overheated and turned off sections. So I was planning to get some new fans, some cooling pads for the power regulators and put some new cooling paste on the chips, but until then I would just run them heavily underclocked.

However during the easter holidays the whole miner just dropped off the grid. When I came to the site all the PSUs were running, so no major power failure like I saw on the Jupiter I have. Eventually I disconnected all the miners from the controller board and the board started flashing its lights at startup. I was hopeful. But the router never found the controller/Neptune. I suspect it might be the beagle (I have never seen such a scruffy beagle in my life, it looks like it had a lobotomy), but I don't know.

Does anyone have any ideas? If it can be fixed, what fans should I get?

You sure there is no plastic cover between the ASIC chip and the heatsink?



nope its not a consumer product.
yoi su[pposed to be tech shavvy.



I haven't opened the miner. There were no instructions with it. Is this an issue?

What the F kind of answer is that (in bold)? And you're moaning about me not being tech savvy when you can't even quote properly in a forum?
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Clueless!


On a side note now that Summer is coming in my part of the world....what is the range of acceptable temps for the Titan 300mh 1st batch
dc/dc individually?

mine range from 79 to 92c (only 1 at 92c) I'd guess the majority are in the 85c range

figure should probably know this at the 72F temp outside for what i need to do to ventilate the basement

thanks ...I've seen no degradation of performance of the miner(s) same as when I ran it in basement this last winter


anyway just looking at a high end temp that I should be concerned with ...again this is individual dc/dc temps not the ave per cube which is quite lower

thanks....the constant quest to stop the slow downward slip of the titan(s) to doorstops...........good to have goals Smiley




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For those curious about KnCMiner's latest chip - AlChip (KnC's steady technology partner) had a big ol' banner up with some specs.  Photographer didn't catch the entire thing:
legendary
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Anyone had luck unsubscribing from a thread? Unwatching doesn't seem to help and I have absolutely no interest watching this thread any longer.

Thanks

This nightmare will hunt you forever.  Cheesy

yep my thinking especially years from now when Sam Cole will tout himself as a founder of the bitcoin backbone when he is old and grey....(should he get his way and KNC controls
40% of all bitcoin mining in 2016 as they have stated as their goal)

shudder ...scared my self........ 'the horror'.......sheesh...

me I'll stick around here forever ..I still yell on BFL forums because I'm p/o'd about them STILL ..and I got a full refund in 1 year and 20 days.....(miracle it was)

not that i hold a grudge mind you ...(er  i may have issues?)
legendary
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Anyone had luck unsubscribing from a thread? Unwatching doesn't seem to help and I have absolutely no interest watching this thread any longer.

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legendary
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Does anyone had take answer from knc
I had sent email 3 days now with no answer from them

Does anyone had take answer Huh?
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I'll update what I last talked about with Joakim Stignert. He is one of the lawyer in the group action.

You more people that will join the group action, the better it is for each of us. The interest are really high, especially by the amount from USA and Charlotte Lin.
Consider that, the risk are really low. They will tell the amount of participators so that each of us can make our own estimates of the risks. BUT the cost of the trial(s) should be "normal", so KnC can't get 10 lawyers and think that we will pay that if they win.
They make an estimate that at least 50 people will join the group action. If KnC loose and appeal and wins in the supreme court (first district court and if they loose and appeal they will go to supreme court). And if we count really high, let say KnC sends an invoice of 400 000 sek our cost per person will be 8000 SEK (400 000/50 = 8000 SEK or in USD $50 000/50 = $1000). And that is worst case.

They can't sue any of us because their name or their brand or any thing like that got poorly treated.
legendary
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Searing... I'm seeing Ebay selling Neppies for a grand still, but okay.... using those calculators...  give the diff an honest KNC 16nm cloud estimate, and then add Spondoolies recent merger with Bitcoinshop who are going "cloud", just like KNC.
Granted, Bitcoin could jump to three grand tomorrow, but it could also dip down to 78 bucks... but one thing is for sure... The difficulty level will be rising wildly again soon.
I thought about running a few during daylight hours on my 8kw solar system, but then the ROI is cut by 66% when doing it that way.(8 hours usable daylight). I don't see how anything short of a miracle could get me to bother with straight Bitcoin mining again.

Oooh... one thing though... Looking at the Titan mining ltc, and trading to btc mining compared to Neptune stats is a bit more tempting... and seeing the difficulty on ltc is lower than when delivered, things are looking to stretch out for Titan...  but then I think about the hellish nightmare I was in when I got miners delivered... both with jupiter and neptune batches...  and the urge goes away. I think I can safely say I won't be needing a 12-step program to get away from mining forever. (grin)
I feel lucky just getting out at 486 and still having a small profit to show. I'd be committing hairy-cary if I had held to two hundred.
I'm feeling safer atm just saving change and buying small amounts of btc to hold now that things are a bit more sable, but not ready for going "all in" again just yet.
cheers
legendary
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Hi folks,

I'm looking for a rackmount solution for a Neptune, anyone ideas?

Thanks,
Micky25

I've been thinking about building something out of aluminum for mine. How much interest would there be from the community for a closed aluminum (or cheaper galvanized) housing?
legendary
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Hi folks,

I'm looking for a rackmount solution for a Neptune, anyone ideas?

Thanks,
Micky25
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Am I reading this right?
People are still buying Neptunes when KNC are at the brink of launching the 16 nanometer cloud and have stopped any & all support of previous products?
Amazing how people will buy machines BEFORE doing any research.
Your only hope is a BTC price hike to thousands of dollars before the diff jumps again. .... Good luck with that.
Worrying about a few Gigahashes is so futile... It's shear insanity!
Do the math... a Neptune purchased now will likely never ROI... ever. Not even with free electric.

Well, you know that no one is paying anywhere near $10,000 for a Neptune rig these days. So I'm not sure how you would know that they'll never ROI.

Lol, I can't believe I'm defending anyone who's still mining with KNC gear! But we shouldn't be surprised that people are continuing to mine with secondhand gear. I bet there are people still farting around with the first Avalons somewhere in the world.


well at $750 usd say with the additonal s shipping to you and free electric (which some users on here have with solar) it would take around 4.5 months to ROI with FREE ELECTRIC
and again if you had the proper PSU's from GPU days sitting about to use w/o that added expense.

using this calculator  www.tradeblock.com

now I think? the Neptune draws at the wall about 2500w using that figure with 3.5TH I get the following and a 0% fee pool

at my rate of 12c per kwh I start losing money on the whole thing at 4.5 months ...goes downhill from there at least at these current prices

now both cases the 12c kwh and the  free electric assumes you have 2 proper sized PSU's sitting about from the GPU days and that is not an extra expense to re-affirm that
likely 400 buck extra expense if you don't have such

so imho even at the free electric scenario .....imho you are better off just buying coin.....and hope for a price rise

and also the point that 16nm from the KNC splash in the mining universe is also likely coming here in the next couple months .....with their vow of wanting to own
40% of all bitcoin mining and transacitions fees as/if that applies by 2016.....well ...there is also that to consider

and again for myself I don't have free electric even if I did the added complication of where I am at I'd have to figure out a way to move that 2500w  of 24/7 heat
and summer is coming........(got that issue with the Titans) a further consideration

nope...the boat has sailed...home mining is done.....but I take the point also that 750 for a used neppie now may be great fun ..and maybe under the right circumstances
you could ROI with free electric and such......but as a 'innovative strategy" for making BTC as of this date May 5th 2015..er no so much

if I get to the point I want to contribute to the BTC infrastructure I'll just run a BTC node for my 'good vibes' at an electric loss at that point in time..should it come.

but hey at least the guy is having fun at less then 1/10th the original price!






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Am I reading this right?
People are still buying Neptunes when KNC are at the brink of launching the 16 nanometer cloud and have stopped any & all support of previous products?
Amazing how people will buy machines BEFORE doing any research.
Your only hope is a BTC price hike to thousands of dollars before the diff jumps again. .... Good luck with that.
Worrying about a few Gigahashes is so futile... It's shear insanity!
Do the math... a Neptune purchased now will likely never ROI... ever. Not even with free electric.

Well, you know that no one is paying anywhere near $10,000 for a Neptune rig these days. So I'm not sure how you would know that they'll never ROI.

Lol, I can't believe I'm defending anyone who's still mining with KNC gear! But we shouldn't be surprised that people are continuing to mine with secondhand gear. I bet there are people still farting around with the first Avalons somewhere in the world.
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Am I reading this right?
People are still buying Neptunes when KNC are at the brink of launching the 16 nanometer cloud and have stopped any & all support of previous products?
Amazing how people will buy machines BEFORE doing any research.
Your only hope is a BTC price hike to thousands of dollars before the diff jumps again. .... Good luck with that.
Worrying about a few Gigahashes is so futile... It's shear insanity!
Do the math... a Neptune purchased now will likely never ROI... ever. Not even with free electric.

If all was true you had a point....
but  http://www.kncminer.com/support works quite well
and the 16 mm cloud well , if you can use your neptubes in iceland where electricity is 100% thermal and water.
you dont care about the KWH price electricity is INCLUDED at no extra charge when you build a new place @ $100.000 +
yes in iceland they have FLAT rate electricity contracts coneected to the parcel you buy!
you can pull 50kwh at 3 phase 400V and they will not complain.
One catch tough you have to be icelandic or married to one Smiley

legendary
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LIR DEV
Am I reading this right?
People are still buying Neptunes when KNC are at the brink of launching the 16 nanometer cloud and have stopped any & all support of previous products?
Amazing how people will buy machines BEFORE doing any research.
Your only hope is a BTC price hike to thousands of dollars before the diff jumps again. .... Good luck with that.
Worrying about a few Gigahashes is so futile... It's shear insanity!
Do the math... a Neptune purchased now will likely never ROI... ever. Not even with free electric.
legendary
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Hello everyone.

I stumbled upon this site after attempting to find answers dealing with the used KNC Neptunes I bought.

I'm seeing now that I probably should have avoided KNC....what drives me insane is that all the knowledge on their forum, THEY JUST DELETED IT!

Okay down to it....I have 5 Neptune rigs, each with dual 1300w EVGA PSUs. I have managed to get 3 up and running, and was having issues with the 4th and 5th ones.

It seemed to come down to the controller cards. I have 2 that were just STOPPED. Flashed RC6 with a microSD card, no change (FYI for those working with these WARNING: RC6 firmware kills the ability to set a static IP, it was just revert back to checking DHCP).

So, I ordered (2) new BBB RevC, and have successfully flashed RC6 onto one, and have replaced one of the RevB BBBs that seemed to be bad. Up and running great.

However, I have the same issue with the second new BBB as well, everything looks like it flashed fine....and now just sits at STOPPED state. WTH?!?!? Also, the ones that are affected by this, the FIND MY MINER option fails to light the LED, I thought that behavior was odd.

Also, what is the flashing process as it is? I downloaded the RC6 firmware, setup the SD card per instructions, load SD card with power OFF and all cables disconnected, wait for flashing green light to show success (in subsequent attempts to flash, I sometimes do not get this green light).

Is it possible to downgrade? What is the process? I have attempted to download the 1.02 and 1.06 .BIN firmware images, but selecting them and hitting UPGRADE from the UI does nothing, I am always on RC6. Is there another method to downgrading? Do I have to cook my own image with the 1.02/1.06 .BIN files and then flash?

Does anyone have any further experience or have any similar stories?

Glad I finally found a group who are using these, almost impossible to find info on running them out there. I like my new S5s wayyyyyyyyy better when it comes to setup and config, a breeze.

First thing:  When you boot up the BBB & Controller Card, is the white light a flash or longer?  If it flashes 3 times, it's a bad controller.
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