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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1176. (Read 3049528 times)

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@_vjy
October 31, 2013, 05:10:50 AM

Say for equal GHashes,

  Gen1 price is 200 BTC
  Gen2 price is 100 BTC

Basically KNC, and every asic manufacturer should,

1. Ship all gen1 asics
2. Make sure all gen1 asics shipped, started hashing, and last-shipped gen1 asic mined the price difference worth of BTC (200 - 100 = 100 BTC)
3. Start shiping gen2 asics

Right?? Or, whatever. Sad
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BitcoinEvo [$XBTE]
October 31, 2013, 04:50:33 AM
Lol no way the 2nd will have min 1Thas or in jupiter case 5Thas=1350€ Bills Smiley or they just cut the jupiter price to 1000$ when the diff rise to 1000mil in January  Kiss
legendary
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October 31, 2013, 04:35:24 AM

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?

I beg to differ. 1 Jupiter costs about 135€ in power per month. That is at present pretty much 1 btc. If next gen miners can lessen that by 30% that would mean a LOT more money in the long run. Of course, if you are in a country where you don't have to pay more than 13 cents per kwh you obviously don't have to fret over power consumption...
sr. member
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October 31, 2013, 04:26:51 AM

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?
sr. member
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October 31, 2013, 04:03:16 AM
My Mercury is sitting at 106Gh/s and roughly the same on the server. I'm on .89, can't seem to get it to stay any higher. I'd like 110, 120 at least. I've seen it go to 126, that would be nice constantly, but it's not doing it hmmm...

about what mine is doing.

Hmm, I need to log in and check cgminer errors. Not at all familiar with that stuff...
hero member
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Mining for the hell of it.
October 31, 2013, 04:01:18 AM
My Mercury is sitting at 106Gh/s and roughly the same on the server. I'm on .89, can't seem to get it to stay any higher. I'd like 110, 120 at least. I've seen it go to 126, that would be nice constantly, but it's not doing it hmmm...

about what mine is doing.
sr. member
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October 31, 2013, 04:00:43 AM
My Mercury is sitting at 106Gh/s and roughly the same on the server. I'm on .89, can't seem to get it to stay any higher. I'd like 110, 120 at least. I've seen it go to 126, that would be nice constantly, but it's not doing it hmmm...
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October 31, 2013, 04:00:11 AM
I think you need restart the miner - it stops mining

yup, that fixed it, thanks a bunch!
newbie
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October 31, 2013, 03:59:01 AM
hi guys, so earlier i changed my networking settings on my miner so that i would have a static ip for the miner.
when i try to SSH through putty and follow the usual steps: 1. log in as root 2. enter password and 3. screen -r
but now after i enter screen -r this comes up:

"theres a screen on:
1771.cgminer (attached)
there is no screen to be resumed."

how do i get my cgminer to display again?

thanks!

use screen -d (detaches other attached screens) and then screen -r

or

use screen -x (attaches to already attached screen)
sr. member
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BitcoinEvo [$XBTE]
October 31, 2013, 03:56:27 AM
I think you need restart the miner - it stops mining
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October 31, 2013, 03:54:38 AM
Jupiter

Rolled mine back to 0.95 from 0.98.  Noticed a Drop in hash rate after 36 Hours (from 550 to 520) at the pool. Also I get the occasional core disabled and re-enabled in 0.98, don't get them in 0.95.

Also get 80+ Watts back at the wall, temps down 5 Degrees.

HW rate down from 1.5% to 0.5%.

So 0.95 seems to be the Sweetest FW for my Jupiter.
member
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October 31, 2013, 03:51:23 AM
hi guys, so earlier i changed my networking settings on my miner so that i would have a static ip for the miner.
when i try to SSH through putty and follow the usual steps: 1. log in as root 2. enter password and 3. screen -r
but now after i enter screen -r this comes up:

"theres a screen on:
1771.cgminer (attached)
there is no screen to be resumed."

how do i get my cgminer to display again?

thanks!
hero member
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Merit: 500
October 31, 2013, 03:43:32 AM
I think, November miner deliveries has already been shipped and they reach customers today.

Customers can start hashing from tomorrow, 00:00.  Shocked


ack hope this is not true and they don't ship till nov 15th as they said..if not what are we looking at every 10 days a 50% difficulty increase? hard to ROI back that way!
They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

I have heard from a forum member that his $5000 "November" order shipped on 30/10
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Clueless!
October 31, 2013, 03:42:35 AM
When you order the miner?
Heck i dont remember now. But case in point being IS they said they will have ALL miners DELIVERED by the 15th of october.

yeah I got my Jupiter shipped on oct 15th...got it on oct 18th...imho if you did get it shipped after the 15th you probably should get some kinda compensation

Also I seem to remember knc saying they want to give the 1st order/batch of customers "PREFERENTIAL" treatment towards their next purchase of KNC equipment....does anyone have any more details on that?

Not sure the way stuff is working out if I'll ever buy another miner..with difficulty going nuts and bfl still having 1/2 of its hash to move ...april bitcoin hit mainstream.bfl sold a lot of stuff with their scam from then on.....bfl imho still has a lot of crap to trickle out...(I will get my bfl 7gh jally $388 w/ship on thurs this week went to www.dustcoin.com and I'd make more on PPcoin then bitcoin using that unit ..it was ordered in april (before knc became a company!..by next difficulty it will basically be a brick...my other orders upgraded to 900gh of monarchs...don' t laugh you'll choke...yeah it was a lame punt..but hope is all I have left....misplaced thou it no doubt is...a brick now a brick later same diff..out 8k)

anyway more details on 2nd gen stuff...if knc is really gonna hold off on stuff like that till feb/march (prob wise imho) and the preferential treatment for 1st batch customers thingy stated in the past....if anyone has any more info (of course they also said you could upgrade your Saturn and mercury with modules but I heard on here that is off the table)...

anyway ..... my 2c worth

Searing
hero member
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Mining for the hell of it.
October 31, 2013, 03:04:43 AM
When you order the miner?
Heck i dont remember now. But case in point being IS they said they will have ALL miners DELIVERED by the 15th of october.
legendary
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October 31, 2013, 02:59:24 AM
When you order the miner?
hero member
Activity: 574
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Mining for the hell of it.
October 31, 2013, 02:27:35 AM
Whats sad is there is no compensation for thoes that are 15 days past due.. yes i got my miner yesterday wednesday(30th) but that is 15 days LATE. I will NEVER see anywhere then maybe HALF of total amount i paid for my miner.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
October 31, 2013, 02:20:34 AM
I think, November miner deliveries has already been shipped and they reach customers today.

Customers can start hashing from tomorrow, 00:00.  Shocked


ack hope this is not true and they don't ship till nov 15th as they said..if not what are we looking at every 10 days a 50% difficulty increase? hard to ROI back that way!
They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
October 31, 2013, 02:04:42 AM
I think, November miner deliveries has already been shipped and they reach customers today.

Customers can start hashing from tomorrow, 00:00.  Shocked


ack hope this is not true and they don't ship till nov 15th as they said..if not what are we looking at every 10 days a 50% difficulty increase? hard to ROI back that way!
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
October 31, 2013, 01:52:58 AM
Mine has been sitting at 564-565 for over 24 hours,  as long as I keep it warm its all good, mine likes 50 - 60c anything below it starts  picking up more errors and hash rate drops, my error rate was between around 9 percent before cgminer upgrade, after I got around 5 percent, then after .98 it's been around 2.5
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