The latest several ASIC announcements have one thing in common: They did not show any enthusiasm in bitcoin itself
Look at Dr.Zhang, Friedcat, Josh, they are not only hardware maker, they are interested in bitcoin itself since long time ago. It's difficult to imagine that some people just took opensource code and then they will go make ASICs out of it without understanding how bitcoin works
Without that enthusiasm, they will never get there. And when bitcoin price crashed hard, they will face a risk that no one will buy their machine, if they don't have belief in bitcoin, how dare they setup a project that require at least millions of dollars investment and could possibly end up with nothing?
Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 2121. (Read 3049499 times)
So rich guys who dont care if they loose money will pre order this shit.
And smart guys would WAIT to see a working product before purchasing.
Poor people will loath at these guys.
And smart guys would WAIT to see a working product before purchasing.
Poor people will loath at these guys.
I don't know anybody in the UK who is moderately proficient at using computers and still uses hotmail.co.uk.
LOL how true.Then again he doesn't have to be in anyway proficient if he is the business/money head. Who knows.
I would like to see some concrete evidence something exists though.
I don't know anybody in the UK who is moderately proficient at using computers and still uses hotmail.co.uk.
i will buy something when u have IN STOCK , im tired of all these "soon"
......Meanwhile, Sweden has declared war on Lithuanian.
WHAT
!Very quiet here, outside (in Vilnius, Lithuania)
During the outbreak of WWII, my dad, when a kid, walked from Lithuania to Belgium through Poland and Germany with my grandparents and aunts and uncles--and a wheelbarrow carrying their belongings and a pig's head, of which was replace every couple days, for that's what they mostly ate.
I had some emails with Sam also. I did have my friend [from .se] attempt to call but he got no answer.
Sam told me they were waiting to released details/timelines. It's all a bit odd at the moment. Sadly for this one, only time will tell.
Sam told me they were waiting to released details/timelines. It's all a bit odd at the moment. Sadly for this one, only time will tell.
May be Sam is a person take action more than words hopefully...
Shhh!! Don't give away the plan! 
......Meanwhile, Sweden has declared war on Lithuanian.
WHAT
!Very quiet here, outside (in Vilnius, Lithuania)
To quiet, all according to plan
......Meanwhile, Sweden has declared war on Lithuanian.
WHAT
!Very quiet here, outside (in Vilnius, Lithuania)
I think I discovered the demographics of their customer base on their FaceBook page:
Here's some features that could be removed, for all could be purchased by the end user:
...The fans.
...The power supply.
...The case.
To save on labor, just send the required components in a HeathKit box.
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great please keep me in the loop. I am on lots of forums & currency trading sites if your product is what you say it is (almost certain its not) then I will help you.. bare in mind 20nm & 14nm FPGAS are on the horizon which might see the end of ASIC processors being made for any kind of computer intensive task...
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hey guys, i would like to do a suggestion, could you develep a miner that could run without a computer, just a box that needs a power sock & ehternet and or wifi to work... I don't really need it for home, but i know a lot of people who would like to put a box like that in there work place. for the free energy 
just a suggestion
just a suggestionQuote
Kncminer We support the idea of making our devices as small and user friendly as possible so yes we will take that in to consideration
Having said that time to market is critical for us and we will launch our product as soon as possible. We will be removing features that will push back this deadline.
Having said that time to market is critical for us and we will launch our product as soon as possible. We will be removing features that will push back this deadline.
Here's some features that could be removed, for all could be purchased by the end user:
...The fans.
...The power supply.
...The case.
To save on labor, just send the required components in a HeathKit box.
+1 let the people that can put the square peg into the square hole and use a soldering iron get the first round
Sounds like the home brew computer club from the 70s all over again.
I think I discovered the demographics of their customer base on their FaceBook page:
Here's some features that could be removed, for all could be purchased by the end user:
...The fans.
...The power supply.
...The case.
To save on labor, just send the required components in a HeathKit box.
Quote
great please keep me in the loop. I am on lots of forums & currency trading sites if your product is what you say it is (almost certain its not) then I will help you.. bare in mind 20nm & 14nm FPGAS are on the horizon which might see the end of ASIC processors being made for any kind of computer intensive task...
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hey guys, i would like to do a suggestion, could you develep a miner that could run without a computer, just a box that needs a power sock & ehternet and or wifi to work... I don't really need it for home, but i know a lot of people who would like to put a box like that in there work place. for the free energy just a suggestion
just a suggestionQuote
Kncminer We support the idea of making our devices as small and user friendly as possible so yes we will take that in to consideration
Having said that time to market is critical for us and we will launch our product as soon as possible. We will be removing features that will push back this deadline.
Having said that time to market is critical for us and we will launch our product as soon as possible. We will be removing features that will push back this deadline.
Here's some features that could be removed, for all could be purchased by the end user:
...The fans.
...The power supply.
...The case.
To save on labor, just send the required components in a HeathKit box.
+1 let the people that can put the square peg into the square hole and use a soldering iron get the first round
I think I discovered the demographics of their customer base on their FaceBook page:
Here's some features that could be removed, for all could be purchased by the end user:
...The fans.
...The power supply.
...The case.
To save on labor, just send the required components in a HeathKit box.
Quote
great please keep me in the loop. I am on lots of forums & currency trading sites if your product is what you say it is (almost certain its not) then I will help you.. bare in mind 20nm & 14nm FPGAS are on the horizon which might see the end of ASIC processors being made for any kind of computer intensive task...
Quote
hey guys, i would like to do a suggestion, could you develep a miner that could run without a computer, just a box that needs a power sock & ehternet and or wifi to work... I don't really need it for home, but i know a lot of people who would like to put a box like that in there work place. for the free energy just a suggestion
just a suggestionQuote
Kncminer We support the idea of making our devices as small and user friendly as possible so yes we will take that in to consideration
Having said that time to market is critical for us and we will launch our product as soon as possible. We will be removing features that will push back this deadline.
Having said that time to market is critical for us and we will launch our product as soon as possible. We will be removing features that will push back this deadline.
Here's some features that could be removed, for all could be purchased by the end user:
...The fans.
...The power supply.
...The case.
To save on labor, just send the required components in a HeathKit box.
FWIW, I talked to these guys via email and they said more details would be released soon.
Waiting for more details from Sam..
While we wait, I have a few more questions.
Why would you hang a shingle littered with grammatical errors for the whole world to see?
http://www.linkedin.com/company/kennemarandcole-ab?trk=top_nav_home
It only consist of four sentences. Andreas may be Swedish, therefore it would be up to his partner whose versed in the King's English to make sure such simple errors don't stay published. The verbiage on the website is pretty damn tight, thus no excuses. What use is a well-written site if your potential customer base opted not to visit after reading the garbage I've shown above?
If one can't take the time to make sure four simple sentences are as tight as possible, how can we be assured that the same folks won't put in the same effort in building bitcoin miners? I'm not a coder, but I'm pretty sure there's no room for error in the coding of filmware.
Next question: Since you two been mining for a while, why do you not have a Bitcoin-Accepted-Here button on your website?
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I have a couple more questions, but I wanted to get the above links/quotes published first so that they can be easily referenced.
FWIW, I talked to these guys via email and they said more details would be released soon.
Waiting for more details from Sam..
I've certainly not heard anything from them
I guess that leaves Luke.
Meanwhile, Sweden has declared war on Lithuanian.
FWIW, I talked to these guys via email and they said more details would be released soon.
Weren't they suppose to post the spec already? 
The nature of difficulty goes against mass production of ASICs. People always say they will create them for he benefit of the network and sell them. At the end of the day, if you can hash more quickly than everyone else you are not going to want to lose that edge. There is no point in ramping up the difficulty quicker.
Well this would be a good argument for all BTC ASICs being scams, except that BTC is so horribly volatile, as well as the startup costs for ASIC design is so high. Even if the company is run by true belivers, the investors and banks that give them money to pay for their costs won't accept that risk. ASICMINER is a special case in that they spent time gathering investors that believed in BTC, or who hedged for a rise in BTC; that venture capital has probably been vacuumed up by ASICMINER so I think a second market entrant of the same type won't be successful.That's why I think unless you're ASICMINER or are able to get investors from the BTCliebers, the only sensible business case right now is to sell the units as you'd sell shovels to gold rush miners, and do so quickly. You can't fund the design and startup costs with preorder money either, even if you might have gotten away with that in the past.
My guess is that they already have an ASIC design, perhaps Avalon's or ones of their own design, and that they have some funding standing by in case there is sufficient interest in the product. I don't know if they'll be able to deliver on time, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they start shipping before BFL does.
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