Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 543. (Read 3050075 times)

Quote from: The Avenger on April 05, 2014, 07:37:33 PM

"When we receive the chips" and "Shipping Q1/Q2" seem to be two totally different timelines.

work on full mask of a 20nm chip is at least 130 days, as I have previously stated, so why can't Kurt allow us some more transparency on the schedule?
IF; KnC were "On Schedule" why does the 'on schedule' that we have been informed differ so much from the 'on schedule' that they clearly know about.

demand Plan B, demand it now.

They are making half a million dollars a day self mining their DC - they aren't going to give that away to customers they don't give a crap about just because the customers they don't give a crap about demand it Grin

As I've said many times before, knc have nothing but contempt for their customers. They just see them as annoying idiots/imbeciles with wallets to take advantage of. We'll see this play out again for sure.

it's ludicrous. announcing a safety net option, then letting you hang just long enough till the netting rots that when you do fall, you go crashing to the floor in a great big thump of negative ROI. Even if the Neptune is 5TH, it's going to be so close to rollout of 16nm (171 days mask time) rigs that it's only going to viable for a very short space of time, and will never return what it cost. I'd love to be wrong but it's not looking good, not looking good whatsoever.
As the poster above, i want you to be profitable and by the best will in the world, I wish you all the luck possible.

You do realize mask is before tapeout, right?

Youre probably right about that tho

Tapeout...
"the design phase is completed and you are ready to send out the GDSII to the fab for production."
http://anysilicon.com/understanding-maskset-type-mpw-mlm-mlr-single-maskset/

yes. i'll be keen to see a working protoype of a Neptune at the end of March then. - oh, what you mean, it's April already? my bad.

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Quote from: The Avenger on April 05, 2014, 07:37:33 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 06, 2014, 11:07:56 AM

"When we receive the chips" and "Shipping Q1/Q2" seem to be two totally different timelines.

work on full mask of a 20nm chip is at least 130 days, as I have previously stated, so why can't Kurt allow us some more transparency on the schedule?
IF; KnC were "On Schedule" why does the 'on schedule' that we have been informed differ so much from the 'on schedule' that they clearly know about.

demand Plan B, demand it now.

They are making half a million dollars a day self mining their DC - they aren't going to give that away to customers they don't give a crap about just because the customers they don't give a crap about demand it Grin

As I've said many times before, knc have nothing but contempt for their customers. They just see them as annoying idiots/imbeciles with wallets to take advantage of. We'll see this play out again for sure.

it's ludicrous. announcing a safety net option, then letting you hang just long enough till the netting rots that when you do fall, you go crashing to the floor in a great big thump of negative ROI. Even if the Neptune is 5TH, it's going to be so close to rollout of 16nm (171 days mask time) rigs that it's only going to viable for a very short space of time, and will never return what it cost. I'd love to be wrong but it's not looking good, not looking good whatsoever.
As the poster above, i want you to be profitable and by the best will in the world, I wish you all the luck possible.

You do realize mask is before tapeout, right?

Youre probably right about that tho.... it makes your timeline even more plausible.
I did read tho, that TSMC didn't expect 16nm to be ready before Jan even tho the first 16nm's have been taped-out already.

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13%???!

http://organofcorti.blogspot.co.il/2014/04/april-6th-2014-weekly-hashrate.html

What did you expect from a 10MW DC? It seems that it's only half deployed(my own estimate was 8PH, but if they downclock the Jupiters they might squeeze more) so it will grow bigger. Don't wet yourself.

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13%???!

http://organofcorti.blogspot.co.il/2014/04/april-6th-2014-weekly-hashrate.html

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Quote from: Ridicuss on April 06, 2014, 08:40:12 AM

Quote from: The Avenger on April 05, 2014, 07:37:33 PM

"When we receive the chips" and "Shipping Q1/Q2" seem to be two totally different timelines.

work on full mask of a 20nm chip is at least 130 days, as I have previously stated, so why can't Kurt allow us some more transparency on the schedule?
IF; KnC were "On Schedule" why does the 'on schedule' that we have been informed differ so much from the 'on schedule' that they clearly know about.

demand Plan B, demand it now.

They are making half a million dollars a day self mining their DC - they aren't going to give that away to customers they don't give a crap about just because the customers they don't give a crap about demand it Grin

As I've said many times before, knc have nothing but contempt for their customers. They just see them as annoying idiots/imbeciles with wallets to take advantage of. We'll see this play out again for sure.

it's ludicrous. announcing a safety net option, then letting you hang just long enough till the netting rots that when you do fall, you go crashing to the floor in a great big thump of negative ROI. Even if the Neptune is 5TH, it's going to be so close to rollout of 16nm (171 days mask time) rigs that it's only going to viable for a very short space of time, and will never return what it cost. I'd love to be wrong but it's not looking good, not looking good whatsoever.
As the poster above, i want you to be profitable and by the best will in the world, I wish you all the luck possible.

As you, I also wish all who have held their orders to make as mush profit as possible. For you I hope the price of BTC skyrockets as I think that will be the only way to make it. I have been mining with my jupiter/ant farm at 2.6TH/s and at this point I am scratching out about .2 BTC a day. Its not really looking good for me anymore. Watch the goods for sale or the auction section. I will have Jupiters over there soon. Scratch the .2, Last 24 hours .15.. Yes the luck on the guild has been sucking.
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have you tried a DGM pool? I am also currently a smaller miner and I find a do a lot better on DGM than on any other pool. Currently mining at Ozco.in.

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Quote from: The Avenger on April 05, 2014, 07:37:33 PM

Quote from: thomashrev89 on April 05, 2014, 11:02:50 PM

"When we receive the chips" and "Shipping Q1/Q2" seem to be two totally different timelines.

work on full mask of a 20nm chip is at least 130 days, as I have previously stated, so why can't Kurt allow us some more transparency on the schedule?
IF; KnC were "On Schedule" why does the 'on schedule' that we have been informed differ so much from the 'on schedule' that they clearly know about.

demand Plan B, demand it now.

They are making half a million dollars a day self mining their DC - they aren't going to give that away to customers they don't give a crap about just because the customers they don't give a crap about demand it Grin

As I've said many times before, knc have nothing but contempt for their customers. They just see them as annoying idiots/imbeciles with wallets to take advantage of. We'll see this play out again for sure.

it's ludicrous. announcing a safety net option, then letting you hang just long enough till the netting rots that when you do fall, you go crashing to the floor in a great big thump of negative ROI. Even if the Neptune is 5TH, it's going to be so close to rollout of 16nm (171 days mask time) rigs that it's only going to viable for a very short space of time, and will never return what it cost. I'd love to be wrong but it's not looking good, not looking good whatsoever.
As the poster above, i want you to be profitable and by the best will in the world, I wish you all the luck possible.

As you, I also wish all who have held their orders to make as mush profit as possible. For you I hope the price of BTC skyrockets as I think that will be the only way to make it. I have been mining with my jupiter/ant farm at 2.6TH/s and at this point I am scratching out about .2 BTC a day. Its not really looking good for me anymore. Watch the goods for sale or the auction section. I will have Jupiters over there soon. Scratch the .2, Last 24 hours .15.. Yes the luck on the guild has been sucking.

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Quote from: mo_mo on April 05, 2014, 10:53:19 PM

Quote from: thomashrev89 on April 05, 2014, 10:48:29 PM

Quote from: one4many on April 05, 2014, 10:43:53 PM

Quote from: The Avenger on April 05, 2014, 07:37:33 PM

Anyone received a btc refund?

There are no BTC refunds ... you get the USD's back you paid (or exchanged your BTC's for on the fly)

I got BTC refund for all the orders I paid in BTC.

was this recently?

Around a month ago.

interesting ... I actually want fiat instead of btc ... this way have a nearly 100 % win without mining a single second on my (canceled) neptune.

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Quote from: mo_mo on April 05, 2014, 10:53:19 PM

"When we receive the chips" and "Shipping Q1/Q2" seem to be two totally different timelines.

work on full mask of a 20nm chip is at least 130 days, as I have previously stated, so why can't Kurt allow us some more transparency on the schedule?
IF; KnC were "On Schedule" why does the 'on schedule' that we have been informed differ so much from the 'on schedule' that they clearly know about.

demand Plan B, demand it now.

They are making half a million dollars a day self mining their DC - they aren't going to give that away to customers they don't give a crap about just because the customers they don't give a crap about demand it Grin

As I've said many times before, knc have nothing but contempt for their customers. They just see them as annoying idiots/imbeciles with wallets to take advantage of. We'll see this play out again for sure.

it's ludicrous. announcing a safety net option, then letting you hang just long enough till the netting rots that when you do fall, you go crashing to the floor in a great big thump of negative ROI. Even if the Neptune is 5TH, it's going to be so close to rollout of 16nm (171 days mask time) rigs that it's only going to viable for a very short space of time, and will never return what it cost. I'd love to be wrong but it's not looking good, not looking good whatsoever.
As the poster above, i want you to be profitable and by the best will in the world, I wish you all the luck possible.

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Quote from: thomashrev89 on April 05, 2014, 10:48:29 PM

Quote from: one4many on April 05, 2014, 10:43:53 PM

Quote from: thomashrev89 on April 05, 2014, 10:48:29 PM

Anyone received a btc refund?

There are no BTC refunds ... you get the USD's back you paid (or exchanged your BTC's for on the fly)

I got BTC refund for all the orders I paid in BTC.

was this recently?

Around a month ago.

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Quote from: one4many on April 05, 2014, 10:43:53 PM

Quote from: one4many on April 05, 2014, 10:43:53 PM

Anyone received a btc refund?

There are no BTC refunds ... you get the USD's back you paid (or exchanged your BTC's for on the fly)

I got BTC refund for all the orders I paid in BTC.

was this recently?

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Anyone received a btc refund?

There are no BTC refunds ... you get the USD's back you paid (or exchanged your BTC's for on the fly)

I got BTC refund for all the orders I paid in BTC.

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Quote from: matthewh3 on April 05, 2014, 09:11:38 AM

Anyone received a btc refund?

There are no BTC refunds ... you get the USD's back you paid (or exchanged your BTC's for on the fly)

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Anyone received a btc refund?

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gotta let a coin be a coin

This is the KNCminer thread can everyone please take their off topic posts to other more suitable threads or start your own thread. This thread is garbage now and the only KNC talk is by haters who probably don't even have a KNC device or pre-order.

This thread has been shyte for months. Btw, almost all of us are or were customers, so we speak from personal experience. Wish you the best and hope you do actually get a piece of equipment one day.

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