Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 813.

Phoenix1969

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LIR DEV

WTF?
KNC owes NOBODY an apology over the doggone code. I's called "development." Especially since you got MORE hashrate than u paid for.
Would you like to wait for your miner 'till the code is done being tweaked?
O'rama don't sweat them... Peeps with half a noodle in their head know, and appreciate....

Wink

Thank you for showing us that!

The Avenger

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Quote from: RoadStress on December 22, 2013, 12:01:58 PM

Quote from: helmax on December 22, 2013, 11:52:37 AM

i have to agree with @Avenger
is past many time users report this situation and @orama say only yesterday enginnear start working patch

we pay lot of money for see slow support?

You paid for 400GH or maybe less and you got 550GH or 680GH(depending on your batch) and you are crying for 10-20GH? whiners will always whine!

Slow support? I get e-mail replies the same day. No idea what slow support are you talking about.

Do you even have a miner? wizkid was being very generous saying it was "at least" 10-20GH. I know in my case it's more like 30-40GH. And now obama reports 14%! That's about 80GH - is that inconsequential you fool? People are voiding their warranty oc'ing their miners to get much less than 80GH extra out of them. People are paying thousands to buy devices that produce as much as we are losing due to poor knc coding. That's not whining buddy, that a very legitimate complaint. And I see this as another f-up that a certain company won't take responsibility for, to try to maintain their "flawless" record!!! Haha, flawless. It would be flawless if it was left to people like you to joke off 80GH like it was nothing.

Bitcoinorama

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Quote from: kria on December 22, 2013, 12:40:06 PM

Quote from: helmax on December 22, 2013, 12:27:38 PM

and i am not crying about GHash
iam crying about cores and errors and beagleboards

Did you try switching pools? I had over 10% hardware errors (as reported by bertmod) and many cores disabling. After I switched from Eligius it went down to 1.2% with no cores disabling. Many people have reported similar findings.

That was the entire point the HW errors were known to be on Eligius. They weren't present on other pools like BTCGuild. We used the miner I had taken to the states and pointed them at both. We had ~14% on Eligius, and ~1.5% on BTCGuild with the same device. Whizzkid had known about this and was trying to solve the issue, we sent him a box to do so, in the end one of our software engineers had an idea he wanted to try and did so over the weekend.

kria

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Quote from: helmax on December 22, 2013, 12:27:38 PM

and i am not crying about GHash
iam crying about cores and errors and beagleboards

Did you try switching pools? I had over 10% hardware errors (as reported by bertmod) and many cores disabling. After I switched from Eligius it went down to 1.2% with no cores disabling. Many people have reported similar findings.

RoadStress

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Quote from: helmax on December 22, 2013, 12:27:38 PM

@RoadStress you beleive in that you are saying?

is marketing man

and i am not crying about GHash
iam crying about cores and errors and beagleboards

Maybe you cash is easy to win

but to me it is not easy and complain with respect because I also have rights to complain when I see that things are bad

Tried to RMA?

helmax

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@RoadStress you beleive in that you are saying?

is marketing man

and i am not crying about GHash
iam crying about cores and errors and beagleboards

Maybe you cash is easy to win

but to me it is not easy and complain with respect because I also have rights to complain when I see that things are bad

Bargraphics

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Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.

Quote from: r1senfa17h on December 22, 2013, 11:40:28 AM

[Paraphrased]:

Quote from: The Avenger on December 22, 2013, 10:19:39 AM

I'm a deeply unhappy individual who believes the world owes me because I'm an entitled brat...

Would you please explain exactly what the root of your discontent with KnC is for us? It's obvious you feel jaded somehow and are lashing out (rather amusingly if I may add), but why? From what I can tell, you're doing more harm to your character than KnC's. I don't think anyone is going to argue that KnC is the best company ever, but they sure are a breath of fresh air in comparison to the previous ASIC companies. Why must you attack every perceived shortcoming possible? What is your incentive?

Come on man, isn't it amusing enough just to watch him cry, moan, and harass KnC. Why do you want to try and get him and the rest of his followers to be logical? Trying to ruin the fun for the rest of us it seems!

RoadStress

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Quote from: helmax on December 22, 2013, 11:52:37 AM

i have to agree with @Avenger
is past many time users report this situation and @orama say only yesterday enginnear start working patch

we pay lot of money for see slow support?

You paid for 400GH or maybe less and you got 550GH or 680GH(depending on your batch) and you are crying for 10-20GH? whiners will always whine!

Slow support? I get e-mail replies the same day. No idea what slow support are you talking about.

The Avenger

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Quote from: r1senfa17h on December 22, 2013, 11:40:28 AM

[Paraphrased]:

Quote from: The Avenger on December 22, 2013, 10:19:39 AM

I'm a deeply unhappy individual who believes the world owes me because I'm an entitled brat...

Would you please explain exactly what the root of your discontent with KnC is for us? It's obvious you feel jaded somehow and are lashing out (rather amusingly if I may add), but why? From what I can tell, you're doing more harm to your character than KnC's. I don't think anyone is going to argue that KnC is the best company ever, but they sure are a breath of fresh air in comparison to the previous ASIC companies. Why must you attack every perceived shortcoming possible? What is your incentive?

Real mature. Like I'm going to bother with a response to an insulting message like this. What is your incentive for writing the above and insulting me, when, once again, I said nothing about or to you? I'll just cut and paste this, save you the hassle. Just put your name in for ASIC-K

Quote from: ASIC-K on December 07, 2013, 11:26:35 AM

Avenger, i apologize for attacking you like that sorry it was uncalled for and you are right. You have never said anything bad to me either. I am just getting frustrated as everything I log in it's all I see. Orama was a pretty obvious knc shill albeit a very helpful one. Phoenix tho isn't but just a die hard knc cheerleader, maybe that got him some preferential treatment but honestly big deal. This company is new and plays favourites plus people (such as myself) are bending over backwards to get their products so they have the power. Ah well. It's just tiring.

P.S. Also funny that Edgar predicted your behaviour an hour ago:

Quote from: edgar on December 22, 2013, 10:59:03 AM

whats really pathetic is the little girls who are scurrying to your undeserved defense as i type these few oft-ignored facts....again

So what is your incentive?

helmax

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i have to agree with @Avenger
is past many time users report this situation and @orama say only yesterday enginnear start working patch

we pay lot of money for see slow support?

is bugs cgminers cores die many hw
beagleboards some dies like me
no OS sdcard for never die
ask 1200 watts psu only use max 900w

many things that make a person upset if
because it spent a lot of money on a machine that gives problems
why people buy macintosh?
because it is expensive but it has quality

r1senfa17h

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[Paraphrased]:

Quote from: The Avenger on December 22, 2013, 10:19:39 AM

I'm a deeply unhappy individual who believes the world owes me because I'm an entitled brat...

Would you please explain exactly what the root of your discontent with KnC is for us? It's obvious you feel jaded somehow and are lashing out (rather amusingly if I may add), but why? From what I can tell, you're doing more harm to your character than KnC's. I don't think anyone is going to argue that KnC is the best company ever, but they sure are a breath of fresh air in comparison to the previous ASIC companies. Why must you attack every perceived shortcoming possible? What is your incentive?

helmax

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my hope they solve fucking errors HW this is part boring my days
stop cores and not send shares
Since the beginning of delivery units are not the same
Some make more errors than others

r1senfa17h

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Quote from: ASIC-K on December 22, 2013, 11:00:37 AM

i sure hope they start working on neptune soon.

4 posts back Wink

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on December 22, 2013, 09:46:57 AM

There will be a tuning suite for Nov, but not this side of Jan, as everything there is winding down. There's just some ongoing Neptune work. There will also be the means to vary SPI clock frequency. I saw it in the original tuning suite as a feature, but that hadn't been developed into the recent release. It was purely part of a template I saw.

ASIC-K

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Hell?

i sure hope they start working on neptune soon.

edgar

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facts are now considered spiteful?

how about misinformation, an abhorrent lack of taking responsibility for continuous failings and glorification of effort made by others??

how many times ave i asked about these million plus HW errors to be told, dont worry, its nothing, they dont count??

this is an exact repeat of the behaviour displayed when i repeatedly asked about the PCI-e cables & dead die issues and received not a single, honest relevant word until it was tacked onto the next batches guidelines as though it was never an issue to begin with and the dozen or so shitty firmware upgrades were never to blame.

whats really pathetic is the little girls who are scurrying to your undeserved defense as i type these few oft-ignored facts....again

and the continued reliance upon them as though forced ignorance is actual bliss.

better than BFL...big 'wow' i've had diarrhea better than BFL. certainly delivered more and faster.

better than avalon, maybe, and i do mean maybe... the rigs ARE more powerful but MUCH less stable & in my experience 'customer support' is about the same.

no replies or chastisement and scorn poured upon the victimS (plural) of the aforementioned beta mining rigs

whats swedish for chi?

The Avenger

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Quote from: wizkid057 on December 17, 2013, 11:02:13 PM

Basically the results of my testing are: anyone running a KnC device on any pool is losing at least 10 to 20 Gh per Jupiter device due to false HW errors.

So - "good shares wrongly reported as HW errors" - we've all been losing mining revenue since October due to a bug caused by knc poor/untested driver code? Is this correct? I'd say that's pathetic.

And of course knc *don't* put their hands up and say "our fault, sorry". You just say it "appeared" to be in knc code, when it obviously is in the knc code. And you also say knc "create a patch that fixes excessive hardware errors reported by CGMiner", which implies it's a problem with CGMiner. Just the way it's worded suggests CGMiner is reporting an excessive number of hardware errors and you've created a patch to fix that. I'd say that's pathetic too.

But hey, I'll wait for the official apology from kfc for their poor coding and resultant losses for customers. Next newsletter?

CYPER

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on December 22, 2013, 09:46:57 AM

There will be a tuning suite for Nov, but not this side of Jan, as everything there is winding down. There's just some ongoing Neptune work. There will also be the means to vary SPI clock frequency. I saw it in the original tuning suite as a feature, but that hadn't been developed into the recent release. It was purely part of a template I saw.

Can you please elaborate on what that option does as I believe many of us are just changing values without knowing what they actually do Grin

The voltage settings are clear, but the SPI voltage and frequency not so much. I know they are related to the communication between each board and the controller board, so do they increase the signal to noise ratio or am I talking rubbish Grin

Bitcoinorama

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Quote from: pvnamk19 on December 22, 2013, 09:07:44 AM

Hi Orama,

Any news for Nov. Miner tuning? My Jupiter has Die #0 problems and lost ~42GH/s on average.

Thanks!

There will be a tuning suite for Nov, but not this side of Jan, as everything there is winding down. There's just some ongoing Neptune work. There will also be the means to vary SPI clock frequency. I saw it in the original tuning suite as a feature, but that hadn't been developed into the recent release. It was purely part of a template I saw.

As for the spiteful comments above yours, it was clearly stated;

Quote

So here's a fix for the issue that appeared to be in the KnC driver code of CGMiner.

Nothing's hidden as to where the bug was situated, the changes have been published on GitHub for all to see. Stop trying to stir to the pot at every slight opportunity, it's clear I wasn't blaming Con for anything. Pathetic.

pvnamk19

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Hi Orama,

Any news for Nov. Miner tuning? My Jupiter has Die #0 problems and lost ~42GH/s on average.

Thanks!

The Avenger

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To be fair to the ckolivas etc, shouldn't this read

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on December 22, 2013, 07:39:21 AM

create a patch that fixes excessive hardware errors ~~reported~~ caused by ~~CGMiner~~ KnC driver code of CGMiner.

when the bug stems from KNC driver code, not CGMiner?

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