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Quote from: JSRAW on March 28, 2023, 11:53:31 AM

Before this series loss, it was a genuinely one-sided rivalry from Afghanistan's side, similar to the Ind-Pak rivalry. To my knowledge, in the last decade or so Indian team (at least fans) never took the Pakistan team very seriously in WC or other ICC tournaments because the winning gap was too big (the score was 0 to 13/14 in the ICC tourney) but this mindset changed in the Champions trophy finals (2017) a bit. So I would advise that don't dwell on this series too much, move on and take this as an experiment.

It's up to selectors if they go with the Rizwan but we don't have T-20 WC this year so they have a window to improve their gameplay. Having said that IMHO Rizwan and Babar are the worst T-20 batters in the modern world so I won't defend them.

I was reading a similar article on cricinfo Why Pakistan's loss to Afghanistan might not be such a bad thing.
That's why I was saying that the biggest beneficiary of this series loss is Muhammad Rizwan. As now everyone saying Pakistan can't win without Rizwan and Babar. In T20I Rizwan performance was awful as he take too much time to score runs and that put pressure on middle order like Iftikhar, Asif and Khushdil. So I am not expecting any positive thing from this loss apart from Rizwan and Babar coming back strongly.

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Quote from: leonair on March 28, 2023, 12:42:15 PM

South Africa vs West Indies
Today is West Indies third T20 match against South Africa. Both teams have won one match each in the last two matches and today West Indies batted first and they played brilliantly at the start and scored 90 runs in just 8 overs which is a great performance by them. The way West Indies are running looks like they can target South Africa above 200 runs so today's match will be challenging for South Africa.

In the second match, the West Indies team made a huge collection of 258. Even then they were defeated. The West Indies team will probably collect more than 200 in today's match. However, there is no guarantee that they will win. Because the bowling line-up of West Indies is very weak. At the end of 9.3 overs, West Indies managed to collect 107 runs. They scored 11 runs per over. But they lost four wickets. Nicholas Pooran remains unbeaten with 41 off 18 balls. If the batsmen cannot survive at the crease then the West Indies team will not be able to collect 200 runs.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 28, 2023, 06:29:56 AM

It doesn't matter whether they win this series or not. What is the significance of this series? It was setup as a last minute replacement by the ACB after Australia cancelled their Afghan tour. Even if Pakistan lose this series, it is not going to impact them in a big way. Matches against teams such as New Zealand and England are far more important. Anyway, we don't even know whether Afghanistan will have the full member status in the long run. That is one of the topics to be discussed during the next general meeting of the ICC.

Afghanistan is better side then many full member teams and rightly deserve a place as full member. The only hurdle is strict Afghan government rule of no women cricket team. So Afghanistan will have same status until they introduce women cricket team which is very much unlikely. Rashid Khan desire that they want Pakistan team to come and play in Kabul. The security situation in Afghanistan is getting better and may be we can have international cricket in Kabul in coming years.

Afghanistan won two of the three matches Afghanistan played against Pakistan. And Pakistan won one. Although Pakistan is a good team then Afghanistan. Pakistan have played very poorly in T20 this year and Afghanistan took advantage of this opportunity to defeat Pakistan in two matches. Afghanistan are improving themselves a bit in the game. and Playing very well.

South Africa vs West Indies
Today is West Indies third T20 match against South Africa. Both teams have won one match each in the last two matches and today West Indies batted first and they played brilliantly at the start and scored 90 runs in just 8 overs which is a great performance by them. The way West Indies are running looks like they can target South Africa above 200 runs so today's match will be challenging for South Africa.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 27, 2023, 11:47:47 PM

Also if he can use this transformation to smash the bowlers around the park I guess no one will really complain, but we all should be realistic too that at his age there’s not much he can do so I wouldn’t saddle him with unnecessary expectations too.

What you stated is understandable, but the magical thing about MSD is that he is capable of doing great things even when the odds are stacked against him which is why people around the world have such high expectations.

As an MSD fan myself, I feel great to see him play just for the sake of his fans even though he is way past his prime.

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Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:41:04 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 28, 2023, 04:30:21 AM

Tbh that's how you build a strong bench in any format, new guys need more experience in international too and this series wasn't high profile so it make sense.

First choice players need some breaks as well, as most of them just took part in PSL so the board needs to take care of the player's workload.

Afghanistan over the time has emerged as one of arch rivals of Pakistan in cricket along with India. You can see the intensity of heat whenever Afghanistan play with Pakistan. That's why people is Pakistan are upset because of this decision that resulted in loss of series.
You know the biggest beneficiary of this series loss? Muhammad Rizwan. He was criticized for his slow Strike rate in T20I and now he is all set to make a come back for at least a year. Pakistan team is full of giving surprises and this is just another surprise.

Before this series loss, it was a genuinely one-sided rivalry from Afghanistan's side, similar to the Ind-Pak rivalry. To my knowledge, in the last decade or so Indian team (at least fans) never took the Pakistan team very seriously in WC or other ICC tournaments because the winning gap was too big (the score was 0 to 13/14 in the ICC tourney) but this mindset changed in the Champions trophy finals (2017) a bit. So I would advise that don't dwell on this series too much, move on and take this as an experiment.

It's up to selectors if they go with the Rizwan but we don't have T-20 WC this year so they have a window to improve their gameplay. Having said that IMHO Rizwan and Babar are the worst T-20 batters in the modern world so I won't defend them.

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Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:13:04 AM

Nobody is saying that PCB must not test new talent from PSL but the way new players are tested is not a wise move. If you see team of first 2 t20Is then majority are making debut or coming back to national team after a long break. Lets not forget that Pakistan is team that is playing more T20 then Test and ODIs. Already Pakistan has lost home series against NZ, Aus and England, and now this series is also lost. If you history of Pak vs Afghanistan then all matches are very narrow win for Pakistan. Still PCB decided to send a new team against mighty Afghanistan.

Tbh that's how you build a strong bench in any format, new guys need more experience in international too and this series wasn't high profile so it make sense.

First choice players need some breaks as well, as most of them just took part in PSL so the board needs to take care of the player's workload.

Best review about this series from your side because I was reading many posts mostly were feeling not happy with this result even for me this was good from youngsters those are looking for the better future in this game because after PSL big players need rest and Afghanistan was also not good side, so they take this chance for better things which are need of the time as well.

Few players have good future because their performance was better than expectations and few needs to check their own technique if they want to have better things in near future we always need to be positive but still good win for the Afghanistan and well played by all Pakistanis in this useless series.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 28, 2023, 06:29:56 AM

It doesn't matter whether they win this series or not. What is the significance of this series? It was setup as a last minute replacement by the ACB after Australia cancelled their Afghan tour. Even if Pakistan lose this series, it is not going to impact them in a big way. Matches against teams such as New Zealand and England are far more important. Anyway, we don't even know whether Afghanistan will have the full member status in the long run. That is one of the topics to be discussed during the next general meeting of the ICC.

Afghanistan is better side then many full member teams and rightly deserve a place as full member. The only hurdle is strict Afghan government rule of no women cricket team. So Afghanistan will have same status until they introduce women cricket team which is very much unlikely. Rashid Khan desire that they want Pakistan team to come and play in Kabul. The security situation in Afghanistan is getting better and may be we can have international cricket in Kabul in coming years.

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Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:41:04 AM

Afghanistan over the time has emerged as one of arch rivals of Pakistan in cricket along with India. You can see the intensity of heat whenever Afghanistan play with Pakistan. That's why people is Pakistan are upset because of this decision that resulted in loss of series.

The loss of the series was not a big deal but the last day match was so interesting Ihasanullah, was on fire and Shadab also did tremendous bowling. I wasn't expecting after two matches loss that Pakistan will target to achieve 180+ in the first innings. The total score gave confidence to the players and they made it. AFG tried well t wash out the series but Pak's bowling side didn't allow it. Anyway, this was a Youngster's series I was not expecting a lot from it but still, I was expecting a little better performance from the batting side in the first 2 matches of the series.

Pakistan won the 3rd T20I quite comfortably, but unfortunately, they lost the series. It's right to say that the first two matches could have had a different outcome if Pakistan had taken things more seriously. This team's core issue seems to be consistency of batting, which was slightly overcome by Rizwan and Babar, but both were missed in the series. As expected, this Afghan team is more experienced and talented than this young Pakistani teams, so the result was not entirely surprising.

This surprise shocked the whole world as Pakistan lost. Pakistan supporters are very sad that Pakistan lost in these first two matches as the general audience is very sad because many people bet on this match. Although Pakistan won this number three match, the biggest loser was losing two matches by a wide margin. But this is a means of correcting Pakistan's mistakes, as Babur Azam and Rizwan Sara are often impossible to field for Pakistan.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on March 28, 2023, 05:41:25 AM

Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:41:04 AM

Afghanistan over the time has emerged as one of arch rivals of Pakistan in cricket along with India. You can see the intensity of heat whenever Afghanistan play with Pakistan. That's why people is Pakistan are upset because of this decision that resulted in loss of series.

The loss of the series was not a big deal but the last day match was so interesting Ihasanullah, was on fire and Shadab also did tremendous bowling. I wasn't expecting after two matches loss that Pakistan will target to achieve 180+ in the first innings. The total score gave confidence to the players and they made it. AFG tried well t wash out the series but Pak's bowling side didn't allow it. Anyway, this was a Youngster's series I was not expecting a lot from it but still, I was expecting a little better performance from the batting side in the first 2 matches of the series.

Pakistan won the 3rd T20I quite comfortably, but unfortunately, they lost the series. It's right to say that the first two matches could have had a different outcome if Pakistan had taken things more seriously. This team's core issue seems to be consistency of batting, which was slightly overcome by Rizwan and Babar, but both were missed in the series. As expected, this Afghan team is more experienced and talented than this young Pakistani teams, so the result was not entirely surprising.

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Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:13:04 AM

Nobody is saying that PCB must not test new talent from PSL but the way new players are tested is not a wise move. If you see team of first 2 t20Is then majority are making debut or coming back to national team after a long break. Lets not forget that Pakistan is team that is playing more T20 then Test and ODIs. Already Pakistan has lost home series against NZ, Aus and England, and now this series is also lost. If you history of Pak vs Afghanistan then all matches are very narrow win for Pakistan. Still PCB decided to send a new team against mighty Afghanistan.

It doesn't matter whether they win this series or not. What is the significance of this series? It was setup as a last minute replacement by the ACB after Australia cancelled their Afghan tour. Even if Pakistan lose this series, it is not going to impact them in a big way. Matches against teams such as New Zealand and England are far more important. Anyway, we don't even know whether Afghanistan will have the full member status in the long run. That is one of the topics to be discussed during the next general meeting of the ICC.

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Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:41:04 AM

Afghanistan over the time has emerged as one of arch rivals of Pakistan in cricket along with India. You can see the intensity of heat whenever Afghanistan play with Pakistan. That's why people is Pakistan are upset because of this decision that resulted in loss of series.

The loss of the series was not a big deal but the last day match was so interesting Ihasanullah, was on fire and Shadab also did tremendous bowling. I wasn't expecting after two matches loss that Pakistan will target to achieve 180+ in the first innings. The total score gave confidence to the players and they made it. AFG tried well t wash out the series but Pak's bowling side didn't allow it. Anyway, this was a Youngster's series I was not expecting a lot from it but still, I was expecting a little better performance from the batting side in the first 2 matches of the series.

Cant wait for the world cup, new bowling talent of Pakistans team is extra ordinary and i am expecting in the world cup Pkaistan is going to be the best side on the Bowling attack.

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The new captain of Kolkata Knight Riders

With Shreyas Iyer ruled out of the IPL due to injury, Kolkata Knight Riders are left wondering who to captain this season. The captain should be someone who can play the entire season and all the matches and who has the ability to perform the duties of the captain on the field. Considering that, Kolkata Knight Riders decided to officially make Nitish Rana the captain of this IPL yesterday. As he has captaincy skills in domestic cricket, it is hoped that Kolkata Knight Riders can win the IPL trophy for the third time.

Earlier the KKR management was also considering Sunil Narine or Shardul Thakur to replace the injured Iyer as the captain of the team. I was expecting Shardul to lead the team but suddenly they announced Nitish Rana. I have not heard or read much about him but it seems suddenly this lad has been bestowed captainship of the team. I am still not sure whether he would be able to handle the pressure as playing in IPL as a captain is different from domestic cricket.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 28, 2023, 04:30:21 AM

Tbh that's how you build a strong bench in any format, new guys need more experience in international too and this series wasn't high profile so it make sense.

First choice players need some breaks as well, as most of them just took part in PSL so the board needs to take care of the player's workload.

Afghanistan over the time has emerged as one of arch rivals of Pakistan in cricket along with India. You can see the intensity of heat whenever Afghanistan play with Pakistan. That's why people is Pakistan are upset because of this decision that resulted in loss of series.
You know the biggest beneficiary of this series loss? Muhammad Rizwan. He was criticized for his slow Strike rate in T20I and now he is all set to make a come back for at least a year. Pakistan team is full of giving surprises and this is just another surprise.

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Quote from: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 04:13:04 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 27, 2023, 10:14:26 PM

IMO, it is not a foolish decision from the PCB to send a young and inexperienced team to face Afghanistan. T20 rankings doesn't matter much (unlike the case with ODIs and tests), and it is always good to build a player pool for the future. And we need to admit that there were a few positives from the first two matches. And Pakistan comprehensively won the third match despite overwhelming odds. Saim Ayub (20-years old) and Iftikhar Ahmed clicked with the bat, while in the bowling department there was good performances from Ihsanullah and Zaman Khan.

Nobody is saying that PCB must not test new talent from PSL but the way new players are tested is not a wise move. If you see team of first 2 t20Is then majority are making debut or coming back to national team after a long break. Lets not forget that Pakistan is team that is playing more T20 then Test and ODIs. Already Pakistan has lost home series against NZ, Aus and England, and now this series is also lost. If you history of Pak vs Afghanistan then all matches are very narrow win for Pakistan. Still PCB decided to send a new team against mighty Afghanistan.

Tbh that's how you build a strong bench in any format, new guys need more experience in international too and this series wasn't high profile so it make sense.

First choice players need some breaks as well, as most of them just took part in PSL so the board needs to take care of the player's workload.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 27, 2023, 10:14:26 PM

IMO, it is not a foolish decision from the PCB to send a young and inexperienced team to face Afghanistan. T20 rankings doesn't matter much (unlike the case with ODIs and tests), and it is always good to build a player pool for the future. And we need to admit that there were a few positives from the first two matches. And Pakistan comprehensively won the third match despite overwhelming odds. Saim Ayub (20-years old) and Iftikhar Ahmed clicked with the bat, while in the bowling department there was good performances from Ihsanullah and Zaman Khan.

Nobody is saying that PCB must not test new talent from PSL but the way new players are tested is not a wise move. If you see team of first 2 t20Is then majority are making debut or coming back to national team after a long break. Lets not forget that Pakistan is team that is playing more T20 then Test and ODIs. Already Pakistan has lost home series against NZ, Aus and England, and now this series is also lost. If you history of Pak vs Afghanistan then all matches are very narrow win for Pakistan. Still PCB decided to send a new team against mighty Afghanistan.

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Pakistan has not lost to Afghanistan in any format before this series he did not lose series Pakistan was defeated by 6 wickets in the first T20 match of the series in Sharjah. This time in the second match they were caught by 7 wickets Pakistan captain Shadab Khan won the toss and decided to bat first in Sharjah. He scored only 130 runs for 6 wickets in the allotted 20 overs Imad Wasim remained unbeaten with 64 runs off 57 balls with the help of 3 fours and 2 sixes. Besides, 32 runs from 25 balls came from the bat of Pakistan's Shadab. The two teams will enter the field in the third and last T20 of the series having already lost the series Pakistan is worried about being whitewashed by Afghanistan.

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Shadab Khan's 100th T20 wickets

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Pakistan lost the series by 2-1 after defeating Afghanistan by 66 runs in Pakistan's third and final Twenty20 match against Afghanistan yesterday. Although Pakistan lost the series, this series gave Pakistan a consolation record. Yesterday, Shadab Khan took his 100th T20I wicket in his individual career.
Shadab Khan took Ibrahim Zadran's 99th wicket, surpassing Shahid Afridi's record of 98. Shadab Khan came in the 12th over to record the 100th wicket in his T20 career by taking the wicket of Osman Ghani. So far Shadab Khan is the highest wicket taker for Pakistan in T20 cricket in his individual career. But yesterday Shadab Khan took the wicket of Muzeeb Rahman to take his 101st T20I wicket in his individual career.

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The new captain of Kolkata Knight Riders

With Shreyas Iyer ruled out of the IPL due to injury, Kolkata Knight Riders are left wondering who to captain this season. The captain should be someone who can play the entire season and all the matches and who has the ability to perform the duties of the captain on the field. Considering that, Kolkata Knight Riders decided to officially make Nitish Rana the captain of this IPL yesterday. As he has captaincy skills in domestic cricket, it is hoped that Kolkata Knight Riders can win the IPL trophy for the third time.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 27, 2023, 11:47:47 PM

@pakhittheboss each year we say it’s probably his last season, and each season he comes out and says I’ll be back so I can understand why the fan’s are excited about him. Also if he can use this transformation to smash the bowlers around the park I guess no one will really complain, but we all should be realistic too that at his age there’s not much he can do so I wouldn’t saddle him with unnecessary expectations too.

You are correct Grin

each year we predict this might be his last but each year he comes stronger and more fit. Age is a concern but I think he will be able to cope with it a few more years. I am not expecting anything big from him but the hype being created by CSK is overwhelming for fans.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 27, 2023, 10:44:45 PM

Saw this picture of Dhoni on Twitter. Dhoni seems to be bulked up, Powe game loading up in this season of TATAIPL I guess Cheesy

CSK fans are crazy about Dhoni! Found this video that was posted yesterday wherein Dhoni came out for a practice session and half of the stadium was full and shouting Dhoni Dhoni. Simply unbelievable!!

@pakhittheboss each year we say it’s probably his last season, and each season he comes out and says I’ll be back so I can understand why the fan’s are excited about him. Also if he can use this transformation to smash the bowlers around the park I guess no one will really complain, but we all should be realistic too that at his age there’s not much he can do so I wouldn’t saddle him with unnecessary expectations too.

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