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I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.

If a player feels that he should retire from a format I think it is the right decision. Because if the player does not get the confidence then good output cannot be expected there. Since Tamim will be playing ODI and Test matches I think he has more chances to do well those format. As we know that Ben Stokes he also retire form ODI is 31 years. So it is basically depend on that particular player what he wants to do.

Right now game load is having some serious impact on player's performance because too many matches with franchise league and other domestic leagues are creating serious injuries and other problems with this all if any player is feeling stress he needs to have cut short of any format which is having not good impact on his performance with recently we have Tamim and Stokes doing good things.

Because, this can bring some better authority on their game with we already have from Stuart Broad and James Andersson they are playing only test matches which are giving them less stress, and they are giving the best performance specially Andersson at the age of 40 is super fit sports person for me this is good example for many others those want to stay here for long time without any load which can hurt their career and performance.

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Quote from: wiss19 on July 20, 2022, 10:32:26 AM

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Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results

A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.

Now we have less than three months, and they have no enough time for settling things in this short period, but they can manage for long run because things could be settled properly can give them some better results in future if they want to go ahead as better team in this era where too many associates looking for better place, and they are declined without any solid reason in this format.
As they are having franchise league which is helping many countries for having new and quality talented players they can produce as well but for this surely need better policy and coordination because without team management nothing is possible and without this all they have never been good and strong for this format which is having bright future instead of ODI.

I am quite sure that Bangladesh is not going to do very well in this T20 World Cup. T20 has never been one of the strong points of Bangladesh. They have always been better in the one-day international format compared to the T20 and test format. And one thing that causes problems for the Bangladesh team is that whenever a player is playing better in one format, the selectors seem to give him the chance in the other two formats quite quickly. And then, obviously, sometimes that player cannot perform as well in the other two formats. This also ends up hurting his form in that one format, which he was skilled. So that over-eagerness must be avoided. But that’s the problem for long-term selection and they don’t have enough time for that anyway.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 19, 2022, 11:31:49 PM

I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.

If a player feels that he should retire from a format I think it is the right decision. Because if the player does not get the confidence then good output cannot be expected there. Since Tamim will be playing ODI and Test matches I think he has more chances to do well those format. As we know that Ben Stokes he also retire form ODI is 31 years. So it is basically depend on that particular player what he wants to do.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 19, 2022, 02:29:57 PM

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Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results

A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.

Now we have less than three months, and they have no enough time for settling things in this short period, but they can manage for long run because things could be settled properly can give them some better results in future if they want to go ahead as better team in this era where too many associates looking for better place, and they are declined without any solid reason in this format.

As they are having franchise league which is helping many countries for having new and quality talented players they can produce as well but for this surely need better policy and coordination because without team management nothing is possible and without this all they have never been good and strong for this format which is having bright future instead of ODI.

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You are right. If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

The world cup will be hosted by India in around one year from now and Bangladesh needs to focus on that. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, they have never managed to win any of the ICC tournaments. This time it is a good opportunity, given their performances so far in the ODI Super League. At this point, they have the right mix of experience and talent, while some of the other teams are in the rebuilding phase. Rather than targeting for the semi-finals, they should actually target winning the trophy next year.

Their bowlers are generally good on slow wickets or when it assist the spinners, that can't be said about seamers may be except Mustafizur Rahman. Indian wickets should suit their brand of cricket, just hope Shakib also show up with the bat.

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Hmm this is interesting. I guess this is clear indication where are we going in a long run in terms of bilateral cricket.

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/123154/cricket-south-africa-graeme-smith-confirm-ipl-sweep-of-t20-league-ownership

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Tamim Iqbal is not too old. He could easily have continued playing in the T20 format for another 3/4 years. But I don't understand why he is thinking of retiring now. Bangladesh is yet to find a suitable replacement for Tamim Iqbal. There is no good opener in any Bangladesh squad. So if Tamim Iqbal retires now then the Bangladesh team will definitely face a problem. Tamim should be with the team for the next World Cup.

Tamim Iqbal is one of the best product from Bangladesh in cricket, and he plays some good innings for his country which was honor for player like him and if he announces this then surely we need to respect his decision because he feels in this way which is good for youngsters, and he wants to concentrate on two formats which is also good for him after the worst start of West Indian tour then end in amazing way which is surely a proud moment for Bangladesh cricket now they are second in ODI League table behind England which is another milestone for them.

Even he already announces about retirement from T20i but still he needs to give one favor and if he announces after T-20 world cup this could be better, but he already announces so no one can do anything right now with his decision.

Tamim Iqbal is a very nice player. But bangladesh team has always remained in criticism.
If he has done this decision - we must respect his decision.

I feel that it’s a step in the right direction, because he hasn’t played T20 since March 2020 for Bangladesh and now the team can prepare accordingly as the speculation regarding his involvement in the T20 format has ended. Furthermore the only regret I have is why didn’t he wait for the T20 World Cup because he could have easily participated in it, but in the end I feel that this is a gutsy call choosing ODI & Test matches over T20.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on July 19, 2022, 06:04:12 AM

You are right. If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

The world cup will be hosted by India in around one year from now and Bangladesh needs to focus on that. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, they have never managed to win any of the ICC tournaments. This time it is a good opportunity, given their performances so far in the ODI Super League. At this point, they have the right mix of experience and talent, while some of the other teams are in the rebuilding phase. Rather than targeting for the semi-finals, they should actually target winning the trophy next year.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 19, 2022, 02:29:57 PM

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on July 19, 2022, 06:04:12 AM

If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results

A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.

I think Bangladesh team is very perfect to play ODI.They played 3 ODI matches against West Indies but managed to get a big win by defeating West Indies.In T20 though he played very badly. West Indies are too strong to play T20 matches. Still on the soil of their country. It is difficult to play T20 with them in different countries.But I want to say that the Bangladesh team should be prepared in the T20 game as well as in the ODI game. They have to perform very strongly in the upcoming T20 matches.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on July 19, 2022, 02:18:10 PM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on July 19, 2022, 06:04:12 AM

If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results

A few days ago the enthusiasm of the cricketers that was seen in Bangladesh cricket is disappear. There is some kind of contradiction in the team which will hamper their cricket. They played well in ODIs against West Indies but as the T20 World Cup is around the corner, they should have a quick communication with everyone involved in the team.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on July 19, 2022, 06:04:12 AM

If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

Having serious trouble in t20i and Test formats but doing amazing job in ODI is surely good from them, but they need to go on grassroots for all formats which will give them better results and better quality players recently I was checking about Bangladesh domestic set up which is full of corruption and having no main authority which can handle things in positive way its surely big concern for them with political influence is also bringing bad impact now they have few good cricketers which can handle things at domestic level so better give them jobs and with work on all formats will be profitable and positive change in their game.

Recently their BPL is doing good job with having some good revenue, but they are not doing good things for overall cricket which is surely having the worst mindset for them in near future.

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Tamim Iqbal is now the captain of the Bangladesh ODI team. And I think he might now want to focus more on the ODI format. And so he is distancing himself from T20 and Test format. Bangladesh wants to qualify for at least the semi-finals of the upcoming ODI World Cup. And so it's time for Iqbal to do better in the ODI format to make himself more useful for the team.

Bangladesh has done well in ODI format recently. If you check the points table for ICC Cricket World Cup Super League, they are at 2nd position with 12 wins from 18 games. England is ahead of them by just 5 points. Their weak points are T20 and test cricket, and for now we can ignore them. If the main players such as Tamim, Litton, Shakib and Mustafizur remains in form, then I don't think that reaching the semi-finals will be a big hassle for them. Also, the conditions will be familiar for them, as the tournament will take place in India.

You are right. If we consider only the ODI format, then it can be said that Bangladesh is a strong team. And Bangladeshi players are consistently performing well in the ODI format now. And so Bangladesh can reach the semi-finals in the 2023 World Cup, if they can continue this streak. And I would say Tamim's decision is right. If he concentrates completely on the 50-over matches, we will get better performance from him in the World Cup.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 19, 2022, 05:07:46 AM

Tamim Iqbal is now the captain of the Bangladesh ODI team. And I think he might now want to focus more on the ODI format. And so he is distancing himself from T20 and Test format. Bangladesh wants to qualify for at least the semi-finals of the upcoming ODI World Cup. And so it's time for Iqbal to do better in the ODI format to make himself more useful for the team.

Bangladesh has done well in ODI format recently. If you check the points table for ICC Cricket World Cup Super League, they are at 2nd position with 12 wins from 18 games. England is ahead of them by just 5 points. Their weak points are T20 and test cricket, and for now we can ignore them. If the main players such as Tamim, Litton, Shakib and Mustafizur remains in form, then I don't think that reaching the semi-finals will be a big hassle for them. Also, the conditions will be familiar for them, as the tournament will take place in India.

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Ireland V New zealand

Despite a good performance, Ireland could not win any ODI match against New Zealand only due to bad luck. They were defeated by just 1 run in the last match. But it seems they will win the first T20 match. Ireland won the toss and took the field. New Zealand are able to collect just 53 runs in 8 overs, but they lost three crucial wickets. I will be happy if Ireland can win. This team is working hard.

New Zealand scored only 65 runs in the first 10 overs. But at the end of 20 overs, they set a huge target of 174. New Zealand scored 44 runs in the last 3 overs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. A stronger bowling line-up would have improved Ireland's overall performance. I don't think Ireland can win by 174 runs. New Zealand will win this match as usual.

Ireland have reached 142 runs against the tough bowling of New Zealand. It is Glenn Phillips that changed the match, if not this match could've gone even closer. The runs that New Zealand managed to score during the last few overs is the turning point. If the score have got stopped within 150 runs the pressure on Ireland players would've come down. Ireland is an emerging team that have got potential players. Recently in a T20 it made the Indian team into a critical situation till the last. Finally India won by 4 runs and Ireland managed to score 221 runs losing 5 wickets. Maybe we can expect similar performance in the next match.

New Zealand's bowlers are quite experienced. It was not easy to score 174 runs against them. Also opener Paul Stirling did not play well. He was able to collect 13 runs from 16 balls. If Paul Stirling had been able to play well, the result of the match might have been in favor of Ireland. However, these two teams will meet tomorrow in the second T20 match. Hopefully we will see a better performance from Ireland

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Tamim Iqbal is not too old. He could easily have continued playing in the T20 format for another 3/4 years. But I don't understand why he is thinking of retiring now. Bangladesh is yet to find a suitable replacement for Tamim Iqbal. There is no good opener in any Bangladesh squad. So if Tamim Iqbal retires now then the Bangladesh team will definitely face a problem. Tamim should be with the team for the next World Cup.

Tamim Iqbal is one of the best product from Bangladesh in cricket, and he plays some good innings for his country which was honor for player like him and if he announces this then surely we need to respect his decision because he feels in this way which is good for youngsters, and he wants to concentrate on two formats which is also good for him after the worst start of West Indian tour then end in amazing way which is surely a proud moment for Bangladesh cricket now they are second in ODI League table behind England which is another milestone for them.
Even he already announces about retirement from T20i but still he needs to give one favor and if he announces after T-20 world cup this could be better, but he already announces so no one can do anything right now with his decision.

Tamim Iqbal is a very nice player. But bangladesh team has always remained in criticism.
If he has done this decision - we must respect his decision.

Maybe in this time he is not very comfortable in the T20 format. Moreover, he was not regular in some session. Many supporters utter that maybe he is not taking the decision by himself it can be imposed. Everything is obscure in this concern. We all know that before some day ago he mentioned his retirement on his Twitter page.

Tamim Iqbal is now the captain of the Bangladesh ODI team. And I think he might now want to focus more on the ODI format. And so he is distancing himself from T20 and Test format. Bangladesh wants to qualify for at least the semi-finals of the upcoming ODI World Cup. And so it's time for Iqbal to do better in the ODI format to make himself more useful for the team.

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Quote from: KennyR on July 18, 2022, 07:23:01 PM

Ireland have reached 142 runs against the tough bowling of New Zealand. It is Glenn Phillips that changed the match, if not this match could've gone even closer. The runs that New Zealand managed to score during the last few overs is the turning point. If the score have got stopped within 150 runs the pressure on Ireland players would've come down. Ireland is an emerging team that have got potential players. Recently in a T20 it made the Indian team into a critical situation till the last. Finally India won by 4 runs and Ireland managed to score 221 runs losing 5 wickets. Maybe we can expect similar performance in the next match.

Getting tired with Ireland. When they will start winning matches? Even during the T20 series against India, the same thing happened. There were a few close matches, but eventually they came under pressure and lost. No one will give them any value, if they fail to win matches against top-4 teams. And Ireland has some of the top T20 players in their squad, such as Paul Stirling. Now Harry Tector is also emerging as a world class player. But their bowling remains pretty ordinary, ever since the retirement of Boyd Rankin and Tim Murtagh.

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Ireland V New zealand

Despite a good performance, Ireland could not win any ODI match against New Zealand only due to bad luck. They were defeated by just 1 run in the last match. But it seems they will win the first T20 match. Ireland won the toss and took the field. New Zealand are able to collect just 53 runs in 8 overs, but they lost three crucial wickets. I will be happy if Ireland can win. This team is working hard.

New Zealand scored only 65 runs in the first 10 overs. But at the end of 20 overs, they set a huge target of 174. New Zealand scored 44 runs in the last 3 overs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. A stronger bowling line-up would have improved Ireland's overall performance. I don't think Ireland can win by 174 runs. New Zealand will win this match as usual.

Ireland have reached 142 runs against the tough bowling of New Zealand. It is Glenn Phillips that changed the match, if not this match could've gone even closer. The runs that New Zealand managed to score during the last few overs is the turning point. If the score have got stopped within 150 runs the pressure on Ireland players would've come down. Ireland is an emerging team that have got potential players. Recently in a T20 it made the Indian team into a critical situation till the last. Finally India won by 4 runs and Ireland managed to score 221 runs losing 5 wickets. Maybe we can expect similar performance in the next match.

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New Zealand scored only 65 runs in the first 10 overs. But at the end of 20 overs, they set a huge target of 174. New Zealand scored 44 runs in the last 3 overs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. A stronger bowling line-up would have improved Ireland's overall performance. I don't think Ireland can win by 174 runs. New Zealand will win this match as usual.

Your guess is correct. New Zealand won by 31 runs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. We see this from the first match of the series. But Ireland's batsmen have played very well in this series. But Ireland's batsmen did not play well in today's match. If Paul Stirling could have played well today, Ireland might have been able to win. Ferguson took 4 wickets for just 14 runs today. He bowled brilliantly.

New Zealand is a great team as compared to the Ireland team - but I am sure the Ireland will get back right up
However - making big teams play with new team is very unfair. The new entries should have matched with the new teams.

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Quote from: Iranus on July 18, 2022, 01:24:48 PM

New Zealand scored only 65 runs in the first 10 overs. But at the end of 20 overs, they set a huge target of 174. New Zealand scored 44 runs in the last 3 overs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. A stronger bowling line-up would have improved Ireland's overall performance. I don't think Ireland can win by 174 runs. New Zealand will win this match as usual.

Your guess is correct. New Zealand won by 31 runs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. We see this from the first match of the series. But Ireland's batsmen have played very well in this series. But Ireland's batsmen did not play well in today's match. If Paul Stirling could have played well today, Ireland might have been able to win. Ferguson took 4 wickets for just 14 runs today. He bowled brilliantly.

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Ireland V New zealand

Despite a good performance, Ireland could not win any ODI match against New Zealand only due to bad luck. They were defeated by just 1 run in the last match. But it seems they will win the first T20 match. Ireland won the toss and took the field. New Zealand are able to collect just 53 runs in 8 overs, but they lost three crucial wickets. I will be happy if Ireland can win. This team is working hard.

New Zealand scored only 65 runs in the first 10 overs. But at the end of 20 overs, they set a huge target of 174. New Zealand scored 44 runs in the last 3 overs. Ireland's bowlers are not experienced. A stronger bowling line-up would have improved Ireland's overall performance. I don't think Ireland can win by 174 runs. New Zealand will win this match as usual.

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Ireland V New zealand

Despite a good performance, Ireland could not win any ODI match against New Zealand only due to bad luck. They were defeated by just 1 run in the last match. But it seems they will win the first T20 match. Ireland won the toss and took the field. New Zealand are able to collect just 53 runs in 8 overs, but they lost three crucial wickets. I will be happy if Ireland can win. This team is working hard.

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