TA or FA which is a better choice for market speculation.

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Quote from: Xampeuu on June 08, 2022, 02:55:49 AM

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Quote from: Oilacris on June 06, 2022, 03:11:46 PM

Just test both and you would find out which one will really be effective.It all matters on how you do use and make decision through it.

Yeah, that's better.

If you know how to FA and TA, you'll have references if you're always checking the market. And the outcome of your own analyses with these strategies will give you an idea of what could happen next.

But you will still be the one to decide your own trading fate and decisions because not all the time, they're correct. Sometimes, the market, doesn't go along with any of the both.

By mastering TA and FA, at least we will have a plan if the price does not match the analysis that has been made, because of course we understand risk and reward, and we certainly already have limits to dare to cut losses to anticipate bigger losses. at least by having an analysis we will have a clear framework for making transactions on the market

You are right, by having a total understanding of what the market is we can have an idea of how to use technical analysis, this reminds me of a book that when they made comparisons between technical and fundamental analysis, those who are chartists only they dedicated themselves to looking for patterns and for them there was nothing else but the patterns, in part these patterns are sometimes repeated, but you have to understand that this is not the case, the patterns are repeated in certain cases but what really matters is having a complete analysis , that is, the fundamental is more technical and even so, sometimes doubts arise about how to operate.

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Fundamental analysis is king, but somehow you might be late to the party because of late information. But its the best signal to max out on profiting when you pick it early. However, Technical usually shows FA for anyone who patiently checks that particular coin. So as a regular trader, its more better to have an understanding of the two and how to apply it when it's needed.

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Quote from: Desscount on June 11, 2022, 12:24:26 PM

I want to say to everyone, don't ever speculate without TA and FA,
because I think both of them deserve to be understood and studied,
without TA and FA we will not be able to analyze or speculate properly and correctly.

Its just like you are a blind person on where you cant see something yet you know that you dont even make use of these things then there's no way that you could read up a chart.
Even the market is unpredictable but doesnt mean that it would really be that needing any things like these. You would see the significance of these things once you do realize
that dealing with the market isnt something simple or easy.So its up to someone whether which one they would making use and as long it would really be that effective or something
that do contribute on your winning or success trades then its up to you.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 09, 2022, 04:29:31 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on June 09, 2022, 09:06:04 AM

I do think that traders needs Technical Analysis knowledge and can get more benefits from it if mastered. While investors would get more benefits from Fundamental Analysis. I come from that decision because :

Indeed, a trader needs knowledge about TA and moreover master it in order to analyze the market once they want to take the position. This analysis is very helpful for trading in the Spot market or even in the future or trading with leverage, to set the Long or Short position.
Basically, TA is more complicated to master moreover it is about analyzing the graphic, and the possibilities of the charts to rise up or go down at the certain rate. TA is always needed for traders even there is no specific news that will be the FA. But if there is specific news in this case certain FA, it will also help to get a stronger TA at that time.

I wouldn't really be believing the situation to be fair, it sounds like that TA and FA are not even in the same room for me, and I agree with you that any good trader should be able to just read the TA with just corner of their eye and know what they are looking at. Like if they see a chart, and a line drawn, they need to understand what it is without further explanation, and that is how you become a great trader.

However, crypto is easier than that and doesn't require you to master it, even if you understand the momentum, you should be doing fine, and if all else fails, just buy and hold it for a decade, you will profit one way or another anyway.

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I want to say to everyone, don't ever speculate without TA and FA,
because I think both of them deserve to be understood and studied,
without TA and FA we will not be able to analyze or speculate properly and correctly.

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It should be understood that the market is dynamic and often requires different types of analysis. And the results of the work also depend on this.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 09, 2022, 02:36:14 PM

which it would be resulting on having both TA and FA learnings and ~~neither~~ you could combine the two if its needed.

Fixed this one for you

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 09, 2022, 02:36:14 PM

Doesnt matter on how many things you would be using as long it would really benefit out then thats what counts.

I think it does matter. Knowing the best method or approach will not only boost our profit but also save time. Time is gold as they say, so saving more of it in analyzing the market movement will give us more time to check on additional investments and possible profitable trading pairs.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 09, 2022, 04:29:31 PM

Basically, TA is more complicated to master moreover it is about analyzing the graphic, and the possibilities of the charts to rise up or go down at the certain rate. TA is always needed for traders even there is no specific news that will be the FA. But if there is specific news in this case certain FA, it will also help to get a stronger TA at that time.

Indeed TA with lots of available formulas and methods, it is really complicated to learn but once mastered, it will greatly boost our trading confidence and more importantly, our profit.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 09, 2022, 09:06:04 AM

I do think that traders needs Technical Analysis knowledge and can get more benefits from it if mastered. While investors would get more benefits from Fundamental Analysis. I come from that decision because :

Indeed, a trader needs knowledge about TA and moreover master it in order to analyze the market once they want to take the position. This analysis is very helpful for trading in the Spot market or even in the future or trading with leverage, to set the Long or Short position.
Basically, TA is more complicated to master moreover it is about analyzing the graphic, and the possibilities of the charts to rise up or go down at the certain rate. TA is always needed for traders even there is no specific news that will be the FA. But if there is specific news in this case certain FA, it will also help to get a stronger TA at that time.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 09, 2022, 01:35:10 PM

Quote from: sklopan on June 09, 2022, 11:07:01 AM

Do not think that only the choice of analysis will allow the trader to make a profit. Trading is a rather complex process that requires attention to itself.

That is why we need to learn these two kinds of analysis, Technical and Fundamental so that we will know what to do in case some trading problem is put in our hands. Trading or investing without the proper knowledge to analyze the market will only bring bankruptcy to our fund. Aside from learning, we also need to learn when to use these two. As given by the explanation in the earlier reply, both are very important but each has its own purpose and use. Technical Analysis is best for traders to know the entry and exit points of the trades in the short-term while Fundamental analysis favors investors more since fundamental analysis is more inclined to longer-term trades since fundamental analysis is more focused on the intrinsic value of an item and the factor that may affect the future value of an item.

Why would only focus on one if you could have both? If you are a trader then you could really make out some other ways on how you would gonna able to deal yourself within the market.

This isnt something simple that you could handle with and thats why it would really be just normal that you would be finding another strategy which could really able to adapt on that certain condition.

which it would be resulting on having both TA and FA learnings and neither you could combine the two if its needed.Doesnt matter on how many things you would be using
as long it would really benefit out then thats what counts.

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Quote from: sklopan on June 09, 2022, 11:07:01 AM

Do not think that only the choice of analysis will allow the trader to make a profit. Trading is a rather complex process that requires attention to itself.

That is why we need to learn these two kinds of analysis, Technical and Fundamental so that we will know what to do in case some trading problem is put in our hands. Trading or investing without the proper knowledge to analyze the market will only bring bankruptcy to our fund. Aside from learning, we also need to learn when to use these two. As given by the explanation in the earlier reply, both are very important but each has its own purpose and use. Technical Analysis is best for traders to know the entry and exit points of the trades in the short-term while Fundamental analysis favors investors more since fundamental analysis is more inclined to longer-term trades since fundamental analysis is more focused on the intrinsic value of an item and the factor that may affect the future value of an item.

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Do not think that only the choice of analysis will allow the trader to make a profit. Trading is a rather complex process that requires attention to itself.

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It's best to use both TA and FA in my opinion. More preferably, we can use FA for the long term and TA for the short term.
TA gives us a good entry and exit point which we can use to gain more profits. FA gives us a firm belief that the particular coin will definitely do well over a period of time.
I mostly use TA because I already have my coins picked and so I keep trading them then and there to accumulate little profits.
I also have some coins which I am holding for a long term and will probably won't withdraw until necessary.

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Quote from: Markinzo on April 19, 2022, 03:23:18 PM

From the above explanation which could you as a trader possibly go with and why?

Let's discuss.

I do think that traders needs Technical Analysis knowledge and can get more benefits from it if mastered. While investors would get more benefits from Fundamental Analysis. I come from that decision because :

From the definition of trader:

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a person whose business is buying and selling or barter: such as. a : merchant. b : a person who buys and sells (something, such as stocks or commodities futures) in search of short-term profits.

Take note of the short-term profit.

Now let us see this infographic from one of the articles[1] that discuss the difference between TA and FA

[1] https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/fundamental-analysis-vs-technical-analysis/

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Saying one is superior to the other is not the way to go about it. They both have advantages and disadvantages, and they complement each other well.

However, I would argue that it is dependent on your strategy, goal, and time frame. For example, I frequently day trade and trade breakouts, so I'm looking for quick, consistent profit in the short term. Fundamentals aren't as important to me as technical analysis, but I wouldn't say technicals are "better."

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Quote from: jossiel on June 06, 2022, 06:05:46 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on June 06, 2022, 03:11:46 PM

Just test both and you would find out which one will really be effective.It all matters on how you do use and make decision through it.

Yeah, that's better.

If you know how to FA and TA, you'll have references if you're always checking the market. And the outcome of your own analyses with these strategies will give you an idea of what could happen next.

But you will still be the one to decide your own trading fate and decisions because not all the time, they're correct. Sometimes, the market, doesn't go along with any of the both.

By mastering TA and FA, at least we will have a plan if the price does not match the analysis that has been made, because of course we understand risk and reward, and we certainly already have limits to dare to cut losses to anticipate bigger losses. at least by having an analysis we will have a clear framework for making transactions on the market

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Quote from: jossiel on June 06, 2022, 06:05:46 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on June 06, 2022, 03:11:46 PM

Just test both and you would find out which one will really be effective.It all matters on how you do use and make decision through it.

Yeah, that's better.

If you know how to FA and TA, you'll have references if you're always checking the market. And the outcome of your own analyses with these strategies will give you an idea of what could happen next.

But you will still be the one to decide your own trading fate and decisions because not all the time, they're correct. Sometimes, the market, doesn't go along with any of the both.

Basically if you had one chance to be whoever you want, would you like to say "I want to be an NBA player" or would you say "I want to be the best NBA player ever"? You would say best, but some people would forget to add that part in. Sure FA and TA will not guarantee you any profit at all, but at least it would be better to trade when you know both of them, compared to not knowing either and still ending up trading, but this time being blind while doing it.

So, it is clear to me that everyone should be investing some time into learning more about charts, indicators, TA in general, FA, spend hours on researches, checking the markets, reading the charts, maybe won't give you profit, but gives you a higher chance to profit.

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Quote from: Oilacris on June 06, 2022, 03:11:46 PM

Just test both and you would find out which one will really be effective.It all matters on how you do use and make decision through it.

Yeah, that's better.

If you know how to FA and TA, you'll have references if you're always checking the market. And the outcome of your own analyses with these strategies will give you an idea of what could happen next.

But you will still be the one to decide your own trading fate and decisions because not all the time, they're correct. Sometimes, the market, doesn't go along with any of the both.

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The two go hand in hand so i use both. Most times the two could be conflicting which is a good time to avoid trading but once both moves in harmony then comes massive profit. I think using both is best because none of the two is actually better than the other both has their pros and cons so take full advantage of the trend both goes

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2022, 05:40:32 AM

Trying to have them both never cause us losses instead, this even helps to have a better market view and future analysis. It was not necessarily we need them as it depended on our comfort, however, I strongly encourage traders to have them, and applying this could give us benefits in return. As per to see, the more you go through good market analysis, the more chance you got good predictions. Many had missed this thing and that was because our TA and FA haven't worked effectively.

FA and TA may not show the same thing at all times, sometimes they show the opposite directions and that is fine, you do not have to look at the same direction at all times, you can pick either one of them or the other. However, there are times when they both show the same direction and that is when you know that you should be investing and it is definitely profitable to do so.

The only thing that we are missing right now would be to make sure that we end up with one thing that is 100% certain, which is both of them showing it is going down, that almost always shows that it will drop, meaning shorting when that happens would probably be a good idea.

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Quote from: sklopan on June 06, 2022, 12:08:15 PM

Do not forget that most often this choice depends on the situation on the market. Often this really requires a more careful approach, because the situation is rather ambiguous.

Its indeed situational and just like on the condition or situation where there are big news or events in the market which it could really be in result on not following those indicators in terms of movement
which neither it would really be making out some reaction or not specially on Fuds or even on positive news that could happen along the way.Some might really be putting much attention to it
thats why they do ignore technicals on the time but there are people whom do really stick with that.

Just test both and you would find out which one will really be effective.It all matters on how you do use and make decision through it.

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