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member
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June 06, 2017, 02:04:20 PM
Good to see TaaS also invested in the AIR ICO, it's made me feel more comfortable about investing.


legendary
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June 06, 2017, 08:44:46 AM
it seems BTC and ETH will be this summer 1000% up

that means for TAAS goood profits and dividends

And if we add kepler release + bigger exchanges ... TAAS could reach 20 - 30$ at the end of the year.

So sell all your bounties please this cheap  Grin

cheers  Cool
newbie
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June 06, 2017, 07:33:02 AM
thanks guys!
whats the telegram chat?
hero member
Activity: 980
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June 06, 2017, 07:21:14 AM
Who knows may be TaaS will be picked up by Kraken as they listed in past dividends giving tokens in past. We can use as example ICN which started its journey from there. Polonoex is unpredictable as they are open to do anything what they want. Actually a group od manipulators is behind the Poloniex whereas Bittrex I can't say anything about at this moment.
legendary
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June 06, 2017, 07:17:37 AM
I guess LightSamuel is taking off for weekend and he will clear all our doubts regarding dividend when he comes back.
Taas must have some plan for it.I do not have time to go through whitepaper but I believe  they must  have mentioned it in their whitepaper.
newbie
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June 06, 2017, 07:07:03 AM
if one didnt participate in the ico, he still gets quarter dividends?  thanks!
sr. member
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June 06, 2017, 06:16:37 AM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.

I also can't believe they will distribute dividents this way. If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing, whats the point ? someone from the team should make it clear I think dividents will be only from the "extra profit" from what they invest and not from holding their ICO money

How can you say "If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing" Huh I think you don't understand the concept ...
They had 7 560 000 in the ico, they will increase the fund of more then 2 million after august,  and they will always increase the fund if they make money. Where is the loss ?

I think you don't understand not me.. Imagine if they hold 100 ETH, the price of ETH goes x2 so from what you say they make money and need to pay dividents. But this dividents will be paid in ETH so they will sent you ETH from their pool of 100 ETH.
For next dividents they will hold less than 100 ( for example 75ETH) if they didn't made any extra ETH.
you make several cycles like this and you hold nothing
I hope you understand what I mean with this english
As the say dividend will be calculated in usd,they may pay the difference in price during ico and price at the time when dividend is paid.
For example if btc was $2000 at the time of ICO and it's price goes up at the time of dividend to $2500,the difference I.e $500 is the profit.
$2000-$2500=$500 profit per btc they hold.

That is true. How much btc they hold now? they did convert only a portion of it to Fiat? I thought I read they converted when btc was 1.3k but it does not make sense to hold Fiat due regulations and stuff but it is easier to buy into ico with btc and eth.
legendary
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June 06, 2017, 05:57:17 AM
When can we expect listing at one major exchange ? I know there are surely discussions and talks off the channel actively but some hints will be really useful. Some updates if not concrete news will work like fresh breeze to make the supporters active again. Now we need to move forward to get big volume to start the party.

Since TAAS is a dividend token I doubt it will hit Poloniex or Bittrex but can make it to Kraken.There are other exchanges with quite a good volume and would like to hear from the team on this information.
sr. member
Activity: 559
Merit: 250
June 06, 2017, 04:56:54 AM
Thank you, LightSamuel for answering every question in this thread.

TaaS communication methods turned from unsatisfactory to some of the best in crypto.

I can see a stronger community being built around the token now Smiley
full member
Activity: 210
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June 06, 2017, 02:58:21 AM
When can we expect listing at one major exchange ? I know there are surely discussions and talks off the channel actively but some hints will be really useful. Some updates if not concrete news will work like fresh breeze to make the supporters active again. Now we need to move forward to get big volume to start the party.
TaaS‏
@taasfund

"TaaS had the coins it sold this year double in price in five weeks".
legendary
Activity: 1610
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June 06, 2017, 02:52:40 AM
When can we expect listing at one major exchange ? I know there are surely discussions and talks off the channel actively but some hints will be really useful. Some updates if not concrete news will work like fresh breeze to make the supporters active again. Now we need to move forward to get big volume to start the party.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
June 05, 2017, 09:56:09 AM
How can I learn the situation of friends' bounty distributions? Still paying?
newbie
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June 05, 2017, 06:40:35 AM
So now, stop. There is no debate about this. The rules were like that since the beginning. And I don't know why you care so much about "fiat or crypto". They will do PROFIT. You will win money. In average, you will always win more every quarter. I mean, the real life is $ ... I just have to say ,hold your taas, it will be gold.

And like Dimitri said, the purpose is to grow the btc too.
newbie
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June 05, 2017, 06:14:05 AM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.

I also can't believe they will distribute dividents this way. If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing, whats the point ? someone from the team should make it clear I think dividents will be only from the "extra profit" from what they invest and not from holding their ICO money

How can you say "If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing" Huh I think you don't understand the concept ...
They had 7 560 000 in the ico, they will increase the fund of more then 2 million after august,  and they will always increase the fund if they make money. Where is the loss ?

I think you don't understand not me.. Imagine if they hold 100 ETH, the price of ETH goes x2 so from what you say they make money and need to pay dividents. But this dividents will be paid in ETH so they will sent you ETH from their pool of 100 ETH.
For next dividents they will hold less than 100 ( for example 75ETH) if they didn't made any extra ETH.
you make several cycles like this and you hold nothing
I hope you understand what I mean with this english
As the say dividend will be calculated in usd,they may pay the difference in price during ico and price at the time when dividend is paid.
For example if btc was $2000 at the time of ICO and it's price goes up at the time of dividend to $2500,the difference I.e $500 is the profit.
$2000-$2500=$500 profit per btc they hold.


I think it was like that, when they will "earn" (so not the ICO money) money, like with the different ICO investments they earn 100 BTC, then 50% that means 50 BTC will be distributed amongst the share holders. 50 BTC with their moment price (~2500$) that means = 125000$ will be split with the 8.200.000 TaaS, 125000 / 8200000 = 0.015$ per coin. THIS IS JUST FOR EXPLAINING. 3 Months are a long time, when they can get much more and with the ICO money, you can earn much more. The share will get bigger.
legendary
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June 05, 2017, 06:11:38 AM

As the say dividend will be calculated in usd,they may pay the difference in price during ico and price at the time when dividend is paid.
For example if btc was $2000 at the time of ICO and it's price goes up at the time of dividend to $2500,the difference I.e $500 is the profit.
$2000-$2500=$500 profit per btc they hold.

ok but they will lose their holding bag what you don't understand with this ? ... If they don't do extra btc they will lose all. Even more what is not logic is that 25% will be reinvested, it will be 25% of what ? they will reinvest 25% from the initial bag to the initial bag ?? where is the logic
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Yes you are right.Lets wait and see what Taas manager has to say on this.It is not possible to get profit from their investments in 2 months.
sr. member
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June 05, 2017, 06:07:33 AM

As the say dividend will be calculated in usd,they may pay the difference in price during ico and price at the time when dividend is paid.
For example if btc was $2000 at the time of ICO and it's price goes up at the time of dividend to $2500,the difference I.e $500 is the profit.
$2000-$2500=$500 profit per btc they hold.
[/quote]

ok but they will lose their holding bag what you don't understand with this ? ... If they don't do extra btc they will lose all. Even more what is not logic is that 25% will be reinvested, it will be 25% of what ? they will reinvest 25% from the initial bag to the initial bag ?? where is the logic
legendary
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June 05, 2017, 06:02:28 AM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.

I also can't believe they will distribute dividents this way. If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing, whats the point ? someone from the team should make it clear I think dividents will be only from the "extra profit" from what they invest and not from holding their ICO money

How can you say "If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing" Huh I think you don't understand the concept ...
They had 7 560 000 in the ico, they will increase the fund of more then 2 million after august,  and they will always increase the fund if they make money. Where is the loss ?

I think you don't understand not me.. Imagine if they hold 100 ETH, the price of ETH goes x2 so from what you say they make money and need to pay dividents. But this dividents will be paid in ETH so they will sent you ETH from their pool of 100 ETH.
For next dividents they will hold less than 100 ( for example 75ETH) if they didn't made any extra ETH.
you make several cycles like this and you hold nothing
I hope you understand what I mean with this english
As the say dividend will be calculated in usd,they may pay the difference in price during ico and price at the time when dividend is paid.
For example if btc was $2000 at the time of ICO and it's price goes up at the time of dividend to $2500,the difference I.e $500 is the profit.
$2000-$2500=$500 profit per btc they hold.
legendary
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June 05, 2017, 05:53:03 AM

What is taas team price prediction after releasing kepler?

Hey masstahcoiner,

The team at TAAS don't do prediction/speculations on the value of it's token.
While it is; of course; quite possible that the release of an incredible program like Kepler can affect the price; we all know how the market is "volatile" and unpredictable.
That being said; we don't want to create false expectations to our investors and only do statements on solid and certain facts.

Thank you!
Is Kepler in any way related to TaaS price? I was under the impression that it's a separate creation of the devs, and the only thing it has to do with TaaS is that us ICO investors get 1 year free access.

Also, when dividend profit is calculated, do you calculated based on USD (aka we get big dividends) or BTC/ETH ?

Most of the time I used to hear they will pay in the form ETH only. Dividends will be paid to people who are holding the TaaS either in TaaS wallets and MEW. They announced that they will also integrate the function where people holding the coin in exchanges will also get a dividend for that.
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