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sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 251
June 05, 2017, 05:36:11 AM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.

I also can't believe they will distribute dividents this way. If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing, whats the point ? someone from the team should make it clear I think dividents will be only from the "extra profit" from what they invest and not from holding their ICO money

How can you say "If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing" Huh I think you don't understand the concept ...
They had 7 560 000 in the ico, they will increase the fund of more then 2 million after august,  and they will always increase the fund if they make money. Where is the loss ?

I think you don't understand not me.. Imagine if they hold 100 ETH, the price of ETH goes x2 so from what you say they make money and need to pay dividents. But this dividents will be paid in ETH so they will sent you ETH from their pool of 100 ETH.
For next dividents they will hold less than 100 ( for example 75ETH) if they didn't made any extra ETH.
you make several cycles like this and you hold nothing
I hope you understand what I mean with this english
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
June 05, 2017, 04:41:25 AM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.

I also can't believe they will distribute dividents this way. If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing, whats the point ? someone from the team should make it clear I think dividents will be only from the "extra profit" from what they invest and not from holding their ICO money

How can you say "If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing" Huh I think you don't understand the concept ...
They had 7 560 000 in the ico, they will increase the fund of more then 2 million after august,  and they will always increase the fund if they make money. Where is the loss ?
hero member
Activity: 2110
Merit: 502
June 05, 2017, 02:51:26 AM
This project was the worst I've ever worked with! Smiley
I spent over $3 on fees and I could not withdraw 20 miserable TaaS!
"Warning! Error encountered during contract execution [Out of gas]"
Actual Tx Cost / Fee: 0.002436 Ether ($0.60)
YOU WANT MORE WHAT?

I had that happen and it worked when you double the gas amount, that is already little.

Man the ico was great and the bounty, I intuitively knew that the price would rise afterwards, but one is to believe and one is to see and experience. haha
Why it can happen at least make it easier in gas delivery or to charge the gas for the token delivery of Myetherwallet ...
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
June 05, 2017, 02:46:33 AM
Big thumbs up to the TAAS support. Wrote yesterday afternoon on sunday an email to their support regarding an issue with my wallet on the TAAS website. Received a personal message within 5 minutes ( no standart answer email). Problem was solved in the evening on the same day !

Really good !
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 251
June 05, 2017, 02:38:28 AM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.

I also can't believe they will distribute dividents this way. If they do so in 2 years they will hold nothing, whats the point ? someone from the team should make it clear I think dividents will be only from the "extra profit" from what they invest and not from holding their ICO money
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 252
June 05, 2017, 02:19:03 AM
This project was the worst I've ever worked with! Smiley
I spent over $3 on fees and I could not withdraw 20 miserable TaaS!
"Warning! Error encountered during contract execution [Out of gas]"
Actual Tx Cost / Fee: 0.002436 Ether ($0.60)
YOU WANT MORE WHAT?

I had that happen and it worked when you double the gas amount, that is already little.

Man the ico was great and the bounty, I intuitively knew that the price would rise afterwards, but one is to believe and one is to see and experience. haha
copper member
Activity: 1876
Merit: 533
June 05, 2017, 01:13:53 AM
Final Dead Line for Bounties

Hello. its been a long while that the bounties are finished but there was some delay in payment due to user's wallet Addresses,

I am giving one more Week to all those users who still didn't sent me their wallets to claim Bounty.. From Today till Next Monday (12 June). I'll collect all addresses and make batch 3 payment. after that I (Bounty Campaign Manager) will not be responsible for anyone who doesn't care for himself.. Everyone who come online After 12 June should directly Contact with Project Owner, owner will Decide to pay or to not pay.

This is Last and Final Deadline.


To Know how to Claim/Send Details For bounty Payment Read:

https://medium.com/@jamalaezaz/submit-your-address-for-taas-bounty-payment-ca7360835b98

To See Your Total Payment in Final Sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XKlY9xEGkX4RdRmAS3nCkLtvFK9aSUVrVvB7L22uihk/edit#gid=0



Best Regards.
Jamal

hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
June 05, 2017, 12:37:52 AM
This project was the worst I've ever worked with! Smiley
I spent over $3 on fees and I could not withdraw 20 miserable TaaS!
"Warning! Error encountered during contract execution [Out of gas]"
Actual Tx Cost / Fee: 0.002436 Ether ($0.60)
YOU WANT MORE WHAT?
Hello my friend,
I can understand your problem but taas team can't help you on this situation. You need to increase your gas fee by manual. Just put some extra gas while generating the transaction.
Next time please put at least 150000 gas fee and your transaction will be proceed without having any error.
Please note that default gas fee is not enough for some transaction, 120000-150000 gas is recommended at this moment.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
June 05, 2017, 12:31:51 AM
still wait for batch three
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
June 04, 2017, 11:34:48 PM

What is taas team price prediction after releasing kepler?

Hey masstahcoiner,

The team at TAAS don't do prediction/speculations on the value of it's token.
While it is; of course; quite possible that the release of an incredible program like Kepler can affect the price; we all know how the market is "volatile" and unpredictable.
That being said; we don't want to create false expectations to our investors and only do statements on solid and certain facts.

Thank you!
Is Kepler in any way related to TaaS price? I was under the impression that it's a separate creation of the devs, and the only thing it has to do with TaaS is that us ICO investors get 1 year free access.

Also, when dividend profit is calculated, do you calculated based on USD (aka we get big dividends) or BTC/ETH ?

Hey n00b3rt ,

Kepler is an in-house project launched by TAAS. The software is actually used by the team to do their risk management on the choosing of their investments.
The profits shares are calculated in USD and given in ETH.

Hope I answered your question!

What's the investment plan of TaaS? Is it going to just hold the ICO-ed BTC/ETH? What's the current portfolio? Thanks.

Hey cychan2,

TAAS will be holding anything that is seen fit for a good profit.
You can view our current portfolio/holdings in our in-house cryptographic audit platform: https://ca.taas.fund/wallets/dashboard

Thank you!

Thanks LightSamuel, the dashboard looks great for regular checkup. Btw, I didn't check the actual whitepaper yet. Will taaS participate in ICO too? That would be truly awesome if it does.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
June 04, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
I underestimated this project! Things are definitely not the way I thought! To receive the dividends is it necessary to have my TaaS in my ETH wallet or have no problem in stay on the Exchanges?

yes you should hold your taas on your eth wallet to receive devidens, if you let your taas on exchange you will not get deviden but the exchange will receive it
Hi, sorry if is a bit of a dumb question; for those not participating in the ICO and just buying now form exchanges, there will be any dividend if the token are moved to a private wallet?
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
June 04, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
I just bought 1200taas

How can I calculate how much dividends we will get in first quarter?  O.50$ = 600$ for 1200of taas?

We calculate masterplan and if team of taas will deliver everything on time price of taas will be at the end of year 40-50$ range.

If you are wise invest in taas now so you will get dividends + price rise

Stable with legal team

Awesome


There is so much horrible, horrible information here so let me explain to you how the fund works.

1) You won't get many dividends if at all during the first quarter. They are interested in mid to long term investments, not day trading. Thus they need time to get more investments made that appreciate in value. There are no magical dividends to be calculated, it is all based on math.

2) The only way the Taas Token could be worth 40-50 is if the value of their holdings grew 40-50x from the ICO. Ethereum grew 3-4x, true, and Bitcoin grew, but not 40-50 times its ICO price. If they take the BTC/ETH they received and get involved in projects that increase vastly in price, then you may get some payouts.
3) If the price of the TAAS token grows beyond the value of their holdings, it would be because people think the team can somehow do magic and earn greater rewards in the future (e.g., they demonstrate they are able to be fast enough to get into hard ICO's like BAT, which they failed to get into).
4) If you are truly interested in slowly but surely growing your investments, buy Bitcoin or Ethereum and hold it. As Warren Buffet has said (paraphrasing) "the stockmarket is a way to transfer wealth from the impatient to the patient".

I would be cautious buying too much TAAS until they actually start buying into projects.

TAAS, if you're reading this, my money is on FCT, MKR, XRP, NVO, and IOTA. Best of luck!


Let me explain :

Price of btc (at this momen): 2555
Price of ether (at this moment) : 235

Taas hold:
44 773.5 ether
2596.7 btc

So they have 17 156 000 $

NAV : 17 156 000 - 7 569 000 = 9 987 000
(The 7 569 000 was given by gran thornton, an external audit)

The holders have 50%, so 4 493 000.
The number of token : 8 146 000.
4493000 ÷ 8146000 = 0.61 $ per token for the first quarter.
And I don't even put the 570 ether who were invested.

I saw that this calculation had been approved by Dimitri on telegram.

But of course, if the price of ether and btc crash before august, the dividends will crash too.
(Sorry for my english)


If that's what they're doing, it's stupid and should never have been done. They should give everyone 10 cents dividend first quarter, and use the BTC/ETH to invest in other projects that could multiple returns. Giving back 25% of the fund is a dividend is fraudulent, they're literally giving you back your own money you could have held. The promise is that they can/will/should/could use the funds and their expertise in the space to achieve outsized returns relative to what an individual might be able to do.



25 % of the profits are reinvested. That was in the whitepaper since the beginning. Not 80 or 90, but 25. If you re not ok with the project, you should go away.

The problem is that the appreciating value of BTC/ETH is not "profit". Distributing your own money back to you is not what people signed up for. They needed to make this clear and have not, sadly.
jr. member
Activity: 100
Merit: 2
June 04, 2017, 10:01:30 PM

What is taas team price prediction after releasing kepler?

Hey masstahcoiner,

The team at TAAS don't do prediction/speculations on the value of it's token.
While it is; of course; quite possible that the release of an incredible program like Kepler can affect the price; we all know how the market is "volatile" and unpredictable.
That being said; we don't want to create false expectations to our investors and only do statements on solid and certain facts.

Thank you!
Is Kepler in any way related to TaaS price? I was under the impression that it's a separate creation of the devs, and the only thing it has to do with TaaS is that us ICO investors get 1 year free access.

Also, when dividend profit is calculated, do you calculated based on USD (aka we get big dividends) or BTC/ETH ?

Hey n00b3rt ,

Kepler is an in-house project launched by TAAS. The software is actually used by the team to do their risk management on the choosing of their investments.
The profits shares are calculated in USD and given in ETH.

Hope I answered your question!

What's the investment plan of TaaS? Is it going to just hold the ICO-ed BTC/ETH? What's the current portfolio? Thanks.

Hey cychan2,

TAAS will be holding anything that is seen fit for a good profit.
You can view our current portfolio/holdings in our in-house cryptographic audit platform: https://ca.taas.fund/wallets/dashboard

Thank you!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
June 04, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
What's the investment plan of TaaS? Is it going to just hold the ICO-ed BTC/ETH? What's the current portfolio? Thanks.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
June 04, 2017, 04:55:30 PM
Just want to let everyone know be careful if you are using myetherwallet, all my 500 TAAS is gone..I just got hacked and here is my thread with the hacker's address so my dreams now of earning dividends and owning TAAS is finished..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/myetherwallet-hacked-1949338

I am too sad tonight..  Cry
Oh I feel extremly sad for you.You really worked hard throughout campaign and earned those precious Taas tokens.Now I am also scared about my Taas and other tokens on MEW
sr. member
Activity: 559
Merit: 250
June 04, 2017, 04:48:00 PM

What is taas team price prediction after releasing kepler?

Hey masstahcoiner,

The team at TAAS don't do prediction/speculations on the value of it's token.
While it is; of course; quite possible that the release of an incredible program like Kepler can affect the price; we all know how the market is "volatile" and unpredictable.
That being said; we don't want to create false expectations to our investors and only do statements on solid and certain facts.

Thank you!
Is Kepler in any way related to TaaS price? I was under the impression that it's a separate creation of the devs, and the only thing it has to do with TaaS is that us ICO investors get 1 year free access.

Also, when dividend profit is calculated, do you calculated based on USD (aka we get big dividends) or BTC/ETH ?
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1023
Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
June 04, 2017, 04:12:09 PM
Just want to let everyone know be careful if you are using myetherwallet, all my 500 TAAS is gone..I just got hacked and here is my thread with the hacker's address so my dreams now of earning dividends and owning TAAS is finished..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/myetherwallet-hacked-1949338

I am too sad tonight..  Cry
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 102
June 04, 2017, 01:41:03 PM

What is taas team price prediction after releasing kepler?

Hey masstahcoiner,

The team at TAAS don't do prediction/speculations on the value of it's token.
While it is; of course; quite possible that the release of an incredible program like Kepler can affect the price; we all know how the market is "volatile" and unpredictable.
That being said; we don't want to create false expectations to our investors and only do statements on solid and certain facts.

Thank you!

What can you say about the dividend speculation though? Is the increase in BTC/Ether prices incorporated in your profit calculations? As in, you'll sell part of your stack in order to be able to pay dividends? Or is the dividend calculation based on profits made on the 2 investments that you recently made?

The latter would mean that there is no profit to be shared as of yet. I think it is important for TAAS holders to have some clarification on this.
jr. member
Activity: 100
Merit: 2
June 04, 2017, 01:35:49 PM

What is taas team price prediction after releasing kepler?

Hey masstahcoiner,

The team at TAAS don't do prediction/speculations on the value of it's token.
While it is; of course; quite possible that the release of an incredible program like Kepler can affect the price; we all know how the market is "volatile" and unpredictable.
That being said; we don't want to create false expectations to our investors and only do statements on solid and certain facts.

Thank you!
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
★ BitClave ICO: 15/09/17 ★
June 04, 2017, 01:35:23 PM
What is the correct rate to send TaaS to Liqui or Live? I tried to send 3 times and only I paid fees!
I've paid 115015 Gas =  0.00242 ether for my previous transaction.
My ether wallet automatically calculates it.
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