Tagging both operators and participants of Ponzi schemes is extremely effective - page 3.

james.lent

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As the khaleesi would have said :

Burn them all

On that note, i think those who actually back-up the ponzi should be tagged. There are regular investors and then there are cult followers. Now those followers should be burnt as they spam their affiliates everywhere like the black plague. The regular investors on the other hand treat it as a gamble as they dont care if they win some or lose some. Just my 0.99cents.

An example of those who should be tagged would be : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14048068

enhu

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Two users in the forum are already into it, if i remember it right Luptin and mexxer give red to those who joined a ponzi signature campaign including the OP. This way the ponzi scheme will be stopped thus preventing users for being scammed.

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Quote from: bargainbin on February 29, 2016, 12:14:59 PM

Ofc, they're probably 100% bull, with no proof of actual mining. Link?

Of course you can check if they are mining, by simply looking up the pool they are pointing their hash power at.

Quote from: bargainbin on February 29, 2016, 12:14:59 PM

Would be sort of funny to tag people for being on-topic in a forum sub, no?

They aren't being tagged for being on-topic, they are being tagged for being provably untrustworthy people who do not care where their profit comes from or that they are supporting a fraudulent scam.

bargainbin

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>Tag everyone who promotes or participates in a ponzi.
Fine by me, but you do know that "investor-based games" is a euphemism for Ponzis, correct?

>There are, for instance, group solo-mining threads
Surprised mods haven't moved them -- clearly wrong section. Ofc, they're probably 100% bull, with no proof of actual mining. Link?

Anyhow, good luck, but Ponzis are pretty popular here & given legitimacy by having their own section. Would be sort of funny to tag people for being on-topic in a forum sub, no?

cryptodevil

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Quote from: bargainbin on February 29, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

OP, So... Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling > Investor-based games -> tag everyone?

Tag everyone who promotes or participates in a ponzi.

Unless an operation makes profit from actually producing something then money cannot come from nowhere, it is being stolen from the later users.

There are, for instance, group solo-mining threads in that section which are perfectly legitimate. I don't think they should be in that section but they are. They would not be considered as being ponzi-based scams so participation and promotion of them is fine.

bargainbin

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OP, So... Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling > Investor-based games -> tag everyone?

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: Zeke2345 on February 29, 2016, 11:51:17 AM

Comment was in response to Whywefight! Am I going about responding wrong? Quoted him as reference and yet I keep having this issue with the names you mention.

whywefight is not on DT2 and thus doesn't influence the trust rating of anyone on default settings, OP on the contrary is on DT2.
I'm just saying, in the big picture whywefight doesn't make that much a difference, OP is abled to make one.

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Quote from: Lutpin on February 29, 2016, 11:43:57 AM

OP comes out of dooglus’ downlist and is unrelated to the Blazed -> mexxer-2/Lutpin -> whywefight tree.

Comment was in response to Whywefight! Am I going about responding wrong? Quoted him as reference and yet I keep having this issue with the names you mention. For you and the group I will go the extra mile in the future. Fair?

This is in response to Luptin. Warning*****

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

OP comes out of dooglus’ downlist and is unrelated to the Blazed -> mexxer-2/Lutpin -> whywefight tree.

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Quote from: whywefight on February 29, 2016, 11:22:06 AM

Quote from: Zeke2345 on February 29, 2016, 10:00:45 AM

The flag means less and less when you have most of the forum flagged. But you guys got the green light, so enjoy.

Maybe we are tired of seeing people get scammed and complaining about it even it was obvious and screamed SCAM all over the place? Think about it... oh wait, your thinking will change once they scammed YOU

Presuming to know how someone will think and act is the exact issue I have with these cowboy antics.
You act as if I support scamming, its the tact. When you go looking for problems eventually you see them everywhere. Looking at this from a bigger bubble you may see how being gungho may turn people off.
Blaze says everyone supports you, so go ahead!
But he also is the one that brought you into the fold, so I guess that doesnt murk the waters much either.

Carry on

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Quote from: Zeke2345 on February 29, 2016, 10:00:45 AM

The flag means less and less when you have most of the forum flagged. But you guys got the green light, so enjoy.

Maybe we are tired of seeing people get scammed and complaining about it even it was obvious and screamed SCAM all over the place? Think about it... oh wait, your thinking will change once they scammed YOU

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The flag means less and less when you have most of the forum flagged. But you guys got the green light, so enjoy.

Johny Depp

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busting the bastards

Quote from: whywefight on February 29, 2016, 05:58:42 AM

Quote from: cryptodevil on February 29, 2016, 05:54:17 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on February 29, 2016, 05:53:20 AM

Maybe the best answer is just to delete all posts encouraging any of the ponzi schemes.

No, that is censorship, I am proposing consequence. Two very different things.

i like the idea. its time to move forward to push that shit out. i am tagging ponzi/hyips anyways, mostly when i am bored. Joined efforts would be great.

I'm doing this over a long time. Apart from tagging them with -ve trust, one of the good way to jeopardize their business is posting PSA in the first page of their threads. For example...

i. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12694965 (HashFlare.io)

ii. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11414373 (CCminer.cf)

iii. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12460958 (bitcause.org)

NeuroticFish

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The idea sounds good, though I fear that people will continue to "play", just will not post about that.
This would be also good, since such threads would drop in popularity.

Maybe somehow the access of VERY new accounts to such threads should be also restricted (I don't know how), else the scammers will just make thousands of new account to promote their crap and then this is still with no effect.

Mickeyb

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Move On !!!!!!

Quote from: cryptodevil on February 29, 2016, 05:47:31 AM

I personally would consider a user's continued participation in the thread concerned, after the PSA has been posted as being evidence of their wish to support the scam.

But what if the PSA is lost in the many pages of the ponzi thread?

Snail2

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Idiots are used to be quite resourceful when they want to be parted from their money. You can't keep them away from scams by force

. Only education can help in the long run, but raising awareness about a scam might help for at least a few people to avoid some losses, so I like your idea as a short/medium term solution.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on February 29, 2016, 05:54:17 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on February 29, 2016, 05:53:20 AM

Maybe the best answer is just to delete all posts encouraging any of the ponzi schemes.

No, that is censorship, I am proposing consequence. Two very different things.

i like the idea. its time to move forward to push that shit out. i am tagging ponzi/hyips anyways, mostly when i am bored. Joined efforts would be great.

cryptodevil

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Quote from: Jet Cash on February 29, 2016, 05:53:20 AM

Maybe the best answer is just to delete all posts encouraging any of the ponzi schemes.

No, that is censorship, I am proposing consequence. Two very different things.

Jet Cash

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Ponzis seem to be everywhere - even in the feral banking system. Somehow we need to educate people into checking and avoiding such schemes. I've often thought about trying to create an educational website to try to cut down on these scams. When you look at some of the apparently intelligent people who have fallen for the Nigerian (asnd similar) scams. then one tends to give up hope. Even creating an anti-ponzi board would probably be counter-productive, and most people don't seem to recognise a ponzi when they see it.

Maybe the best answer is just to delete all posts encouraging any of the ponzi schemes.

cryptodevil

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Quote from: Mickeyb on February 29, 2016, 05:33:11 AM

Would you consider a payment confirmation as 'supporting' the ponzi site? I remember a legendary member, Blazed once doing so .

Along with that question do you consider answering for 'scam or legit' in ponzi, say someone says 'It is paying out for now' or such in a discussion thread?

I personally would consider a user's continued participation in the thread concerned, after the PSA has been posted as being evidence of their wish to support the scam.

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