Topic: Taxation: You Can Always Leave. - page 2. (Read 3074 times)

Your posting history.

Your fears of a police state. Your fears of the tax man. Your fears of, as you are so fond of saying: "Men in blue suits". Your fears of confiscation of property.

Since identity and records play such a strong role in your world view, I suggest you watch Woman in the Dunes, a movie which explores that theme. It's considered to be one of the great films. To refuse to watch it because you disagree with me is to cheat yourself. Trailer: http://mubi.com/films/woman-in-the-dunes

From there, you can continue to remedy your cinematic ignorance by watching Sansho the Bailiff, a movie which explores the best and worst that humanity has to offer. It is considered to be one of the greatest films ever made. Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=076MrMynyak

Good night now.  

Seems to be the theme here.

How so? You're making a LOT of assumptions about my behavior, most of which are entirely unfounded.

Sounds like it to me.

Somehow, I doubt that.

I suppose the best you can do is cite some singular outstanding story rather than cite from an overwhelming majority of cases or personal experience.

Fear of your government has you right where they want you.

I know a guy who owes more than 50 million... he a piece of shit con man... but he drives his caddy around all day without a care in the world.  gnite.

I've been telling him that across 200 posts.  well said and good night.

Actually, it isn't even that severe. It's mostly a little mail and conversations with reps over the phone. It's about as benign as you could imagine.

Thanks, you too.

As I thought. You're only speculating. You don't have any fucking idea how the process works.

I can only imagine that you're some young rebel in search of a cause. Go get 'em!

I told you the penalty... they seize your bank account and garnish your wages.  the IRS is not evil, mike.  nor is the fed.  it's just a big group of people with calculators.  want to control the flow of taxes... become a politician.  stop hating mike, this country is great.  you don't know how good you have it.

I've never claimed to be the slightest bit wise, else I wouldn't ask questions.  However, I am certain America isn't going to sit around and let its citizens simply not pay taxes; after all, if evading or altering your taxes was legal, what use do we have of the IRS?  Let's get rid of them, since taxation is not enforced.

Do you have personal experience with what happens? I'm assuming you don't. As someone else said, you're not as wise as you think.

I've seen a few stories about people battling the IRS and eventually winning, without having to resort to lawyers.  Right, it's that image which keeps anyone from questioning the government; because most everyone pays their taxes (or at least, pays whatever taxes that are automatically swallowed by sales, property and whatever's taken out of their paycheck), the government hasn't generally been open about forcing their citizens to pay up.  Rather, they use the schools they own to beat the idea into children that "everyone pays their fair share" etc., so by the time your brain's been fried and out of high school, you're ready to go to work (sometimes college, but in my area, most people stick with working.)  Nobody really questions why they pay taxes; they mostly just know it goes into roads and pays for ambulances.  My personal beef with it stems from paying for war and social security; I wouldn't mind paying taxes, if I could control how those taxes were spent.  I have no control over that, nor do I control how much I pay.  Even if one disagreed with complete anarchy, I don't believe the system we have now is preferable or functional long-term.  (We could refer to ancient Rome as an example of a powerful society which stumbled and fell.)

Anyway, it's easier when your citizens aren't well versed in politics or tax law.  Just so happens, public schools will never mention anarchy or even bother with alternatives to our current system; communism is painted evil and the military can do no wrong.  It's a cycle, and one that's being broken through the Internet.

Is it really so outlandish to think that removing government monopoly on the industries it controls might be a good thing?

Hendrickson's site is full of people who have traded some mails with the IRS and ended up with a check (One of the links I posted - "Every which way but loose" aaEWWBL).  It's also full of people who didn't have to trade any mails - they just made an "educated" filing and the IRS handled it properly the first time (Another link, "More victories", which has several pages of scanned refund checks).

I studied the EWWBL pages for a while to conclude that the government is not as depraved as (I assume) you show in your video.  Or perhaps they are, but they aren't (yet?) willing to go public with the "violate the law because we need revenue" strategy to all their peons.  They have an image to protect, and that means we can still get them to follow the laws.

well said electric beef

mike, stop and think  BEFORE you start writing.  nobody cares what you think.  learn that to be true now and you might succeed.  keep acting like you are the answer and you'll end up miserable.  nobody cares what you think, mike.