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October 13, 2016, 02:24:44 PM
#54
Hi Everybody,

When getting Satoshi/Bitcoins from the internet in general, could you please tell me whether you have to pay tax to the country you get them from or do you just pay taxes to your own country?

Thanks for your help.





There is a courtcase in Estonia, which has influence to all EU member states. It is Otto de Voogd vs RAB. In this decision bitcoin was deemed to be as an "Alternative means of payment" which means, it is handled pretty much as a normal currency from the anti money laundering and financial regulation perspective.

However, for tax it is different and really depends on each different state. Many states tax also assets which are not fiat, some don't. Estonian companies can keep every asset, including FIAT tax-free. In principle, bitcoin has a market value which corresponds to a fiat value, which means that no holder of bitcoin is relieved from tax, if there is any. HOWEVER, the other question is that how much the tax authorities can actually track and enforce the tax on bitcoin and playing around with this possibility is a risk in itself.

The only more super-governmental statement came in European Court of Justice Case C‑264/14 David Hedqvist vs Skatteverket, which set the standard in European Union that selling Bitcoins is exempt from VAT as being an alternative means of payment again.

Bitcoin is not necessarily illegal in Europe and being cooperative with the authorities right now is a way to sustain a healthy business on the area. That, at least, I can ascertain in Estonia.
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October 13, 2016, 10:03:29 AM
#53
to me still there is tax on bitcoin, as no country has yet consider bitcoin as legal currency therefore they have not yet imposed tax on bitcoin, but if they accept bitcoin as legal currency then they will certainly impose tax on bitcoin.
yes i am also agree with you, as still no country still accept bitcoin as legal currency, therefore they did impost tax on bitcoin right now but as soon as the countries will accept bitcoin they will also impose tax on it.
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October 12, 2016, 06:29:18 PM
#52
to me still there is tax on bitcoin, as no country has yet consider bitcoin as legal currency therefore they have not yet imposed tax on bitcoin, but if they accept bitcoin as legal currency then they will certainly impose tax on bitcoin.
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October 12, 2016, 05:21:38 PM
#51
to me still there is no tax on bitcoin, as not a single country still consider bitcon as legal currency therefore they  cannot put tax on bitcoin, as not a single country has the policy to put tax on illegal items.
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September 23, 2016, 01:00:56 PM
#50
In my experience I have no memory of having taxes on bitcoins I have bought.  I bu bitcoins through banks and there is so little fee but after you have deposited it the bank then will return the fee as rebate.  Maybe they get their tax through some other thing like when we will exchange our bitcoins into currency then there would be a little fee. 
yes here is the same situation, i also never hear about the tax on bitcoin, i think there is no tax on bitcoin because still no government has yet declare bitcoin as legal currency, and there is no rule to impost tax on illegal thing so bitcoin is still tax free.
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September 20, 2016, 08:31:20 AM
#49
In my experience I have no memory of having taxes on bitcoins I have bought.  I bu bitcoins through banks and there is so little fee but after you have deposited it the bank then will return the fee as rebate.  Maybe they get their tax through some other thing like when we will exchange our bitcoins into currency then there would be a little fee. 
i thinks still there is no place where banks accept bitcoin, or may be recently some banks have started depositing and withdrawing bitcoin but still i have no clear area, if it is so then it will be really a good news about bitcoin, and hope it will really promote bitcoin in society.
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September 20, 2016, 12:57:47 AM
#48
In my experience I have no memory of having taxes on bitcoins I have bought.  I bu bitcoins through banks and there is so little fee but after you have deposited it the bank then will return the fee as rebate.  Maybe they get their tax through some other thing like when we will exchange our bitcoins into currency then there would be a little fee. 
legendary
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September 19, 2016, 09:32:41 PM
#47
Collecting taxes is the responsibility of that country/government which or which the particular service is provided and as bitcoin is not yet approved by any government then why will we pay tax to any government? at the time when they will approve it then we will think about that.

Sigh, so misinformed and stupid.  The responsibility to pay taxes is on the people.  That is why YOU fill out a tax form and YOU report what your taxes are. 
yes to pay taxes is the responsibility of the people but tax collecting is the responsibility of the state, and it is also a fact that bitcoin is not a legal currency therefore it is no tax on bitcoin and still it is a tax free currency. and when the government will consider it as legal currency then they can impose tax on bitcoin.

The way you are writing that doesn't make sense.  You can't say there are taxes on US dollars because it is a legal currency..  It doesn't make any sense.  There are taxes when you buy something or you incur taxes when you earn dollars.  In the same way, you would owe taxes if you paid with bitcoin...or gold...or silver...or chickens...etc...  You would also owe taxes if you earned bitcoins.
you pay tax on gold or on US Dollar or on any thing you buy because these are legal and recognize, but still bitcoin is not recognize or legalize by any state, it is just like that you do not pay tax on opium or any other drugs because they are also not recognize by the government are not legal.

Once again, completEly untrue. You still have to pay taxes on illegal things, in fact, most crime lords/bosses weren't brought up on charges for the crimes they ordered, they were convicted of tax fraud because they didn't pay taxes on the earnings of their illegal activities.

At this point you are embarrassing yourself by showing you don't know what your talking about. You are arguing with a CPA who works for a major tax firm and is the go to on bitcoin tax matters for your clients. I know what I am talking about.
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September 19, 2016, 07:28:00 PM
#46
Hi Everybody,

When getting Satoshi/Bitcoins from the internet in general, could you please tell me whether you have to pay tax to the country you get them from or do you just pay taxes to your own country?

Thanks for your help.





The reason why i am using Bitcoin is because i do not have to pay taxes when doing any kind of transaction yet. We only pay for transaction fee when we are doing a transaction but it is only a small amount so it is okey and those are for the miners. If in the future that my country will tax using Bitcoin maybe i will stop using Bitcoin and find another crypto that has no tax yet.
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September 19, 2016, 04:35:09 PM
#45
Collecting taxes is the responsibility of that country/government which or which the particular service is provided and as bitcoin is not yet approved by any government then why will we pay tax to any government? at the time when they will approve it then we will think about that.

Sigh, so misinformed and stupid.  The responsibility to pay taxes is on the people.  That is why YOU fill out a tax form and YOU report what your taxes are. 
yes to pay taxes is the responsibility of the people but tax collecting is the responsibility of the state, and it is also a fact that bitcoin is not a legal currency therefore it is no tax on bitcoin and still it is a tax free currency. and when the government will consider it as legal currency then they can impose tax on bitcoin.

The way you are writing that doesn't make sense.  You can't say there are taxes on US dollars because it is a legal currency..  It doesn't make any sense.  There are taxes when you buy something or you incur taxes when you earn dollars.  In the same way, you would owe taxes if you paid with bitcoin...or gold...or silver...or chickens...etc...  You would also owe taxes if you earned bitcoins.
you pay tax on gold or on US Dollar or on any thing you buy because these are legal and recognize, but still bitcoin is not recognize or legalize by any state, it is just like that you do not pay tax on opium or any other drugs because they are also not recognize by the government are not legal.
sr. member
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September 19, 2016, 02:50:28 PM
#44
No too that!
Or I will stop using bitcoin if that ever does happen. Embarrassed
i think it is good for bitcoin if the government impost tax on bitcoin, because for putting tax on bitcoin the states have to legalize bitcoin first and consider it as a legal currency and after that they can impost tax on bitcoin so it will be in favour of bitcoin if it become legalize by the states the future of bitcoin will become more bright then .
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September 12, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
#43
No too that!
Or I will stop using bitcoin if that ever does happen. Embarrassed
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September 12, 2016, 03:25:43 PM
#42
Collecting taxes is the responsibility of that country/government which or which the particular service is provided and as bitcoin is not yet approved by any government then why will we pay tax to any government? at the time when they will approve it then we will think about that.

Sigh, so misinformed and stupid.  The responsibility to pay taxes is on the people.  That is why YOU fill out a tax form and YOU report what your taxes are. 
yes to pay taxes is the responsibility of the people but tax collecting is the responsibility of the state, and it is also a fact that bitcoin is not a legal currency therefore it is no tax on bitcoin and still it is a tax free currency. and when the government will consider it as legal currency then they can impose tax on bitcoin.

The way you are writing that doesn't make sense.  You can't say there are taxes on US dollars because it is a legal currency..  It doesn't make any sense.  There are taxes when you buy something or you incur taxes when you earn dollars.  In the same way, you would owe taxes if you paid with bitcoin...or gold...or silver...or chickens...etc...  You would also owe taxes if you earned bitcoins.
full member
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September 12, 2016, 02:43:06 PM
#41
Collecting taxes is the responsibility of that country/government which or which the particular service is provided and as bitcoin is not yet approved by any government then why will we pay tax to any government? at the time when they will approve it then we will think about that.

Sigh, so misinformed and stupid.  The responsibility to pay taxes is on the people.  That is why YOU fill out a tax form and YOU report what your taxes are. 
yes to pay taxes is the responsibility of the people but tax collecting is the responsibility of the state, and it is also a fact that bitcoin is not a legal currency therefore it is no tax on bitcoin and still it is a tax free currency. and when the government will consider it as legal currency then they can impose tax on bitcoin.
newbie
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September 11, 2016, 05:39:43 PM
#40
Hi Everybody,

When getting Satoshi/Bitcoins from the internet in general, could you please tell me whether you have to pay tax to the country you get them from or do you just pay taxes to your own country?

Thanks for your help.





You pay tax for your country if you make money from bitcoin
you do not have to pay tax if you just using as a payment method
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September 11, 2016, 05:30:51 AM
#39
in my openion , i think no tax is going in bitcoin . there is only transaction charge that is steal by the ower of satoshi centre .
if you are asking about traders  then i will say they are paying tax to own country .
yes same is the can in our country, in our country there is also no tax on bitcoin, if the government is going to impose tax on bitcoin then first they must legalize it because there is no such law in our state to impose tax on illegal products or things.
Das
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September 07, 2016, 11:35:31 PM
#38
Italy has made known its intention to tax crypto exchanges in the country, but people who buy and sell on the exchange site are not required to pay tax.
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September 07, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
#37
Collecting taxes is the responsibility of that country/government which or which the particular service is provided and as bitcoin is not yet approved by any government then why will we pay tax to any government? at the time when they will approve it then we will think about that.

Sigh, so misinformed and stupid.  The responsibility to pay taxes is on the people.  That is why YOU fill out a tax form and YOU report what your taxes are. 
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September 07, 2016, 04:40:13 PM
#36
Collecting taxes is the responsibility of that country/government which or which the particular service is provided and as bitcoin is not yet approved by any government then why will we pay tax to any government? at the time when they will approve it then we will think about that.
sr. member
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September 06, 2016, 06:19:12 PM
#35
Hi Everybody,

When getting Satoshi/Bitcoins from the internet in general, could you please tell me whether you have to pay tax to the country you get them from or do you just pay taxes to your own country?

Thanks for your help.




I think no country has imposed any taxes on bitcoin yet.It is only when you convert bitcoin to fiat,you might have to pay taxes and for that you must contact tax consultant in your country
in my country there is not tax on bitoin although i am using it for last some years and still i never feel the need to pay tax on it, i think the reason is that bitcoin is still not accepted by the government and therefore there is no rule for these things to impose tax on them.
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