Topic: Tea Party explained: a religious movement - page 2. (Read 2079 times)

^ the problem is that the most well-known teabaggers are some of the dumbest people in the country.

off the top of my head, i can name you some really dumb people: sarah palin, tod akin, michelle bachman. and there's really nothing you can say to defend your party when everyone talks about how the koch brothers engineered the tea party. it was a fake grassroots movement.

I'm shocked (shocked!) to hear Obama drones spreading lies about the Tea Party. Just kidding. No one expects the truth from lefties.

My experience with the Tea Party in the Dallas area has also been that they're mostly focused on fiscal issues. A lot of them are Republicans who were annoyed to put up with Bush's massive increase in the government. The fact that Obama's accelerated the expansion just makes it worse.

They also tend to emphasize following the Constitution, which is considered radical and extreme by most politicians. Bush reportedly called the Constitution "just a goddamn piece of paper". That the progressive movement has been out to undermine the Constitution has been well-documented since the time of Wilson.  Anyone who thinks Obamacare is constitutional is delusional.  I'm not calling the 5 members of the USSC who said it's constitutional delusional. I'm saying they didn't believe it either.

As much as the lefties hate the Tea Party and lie about them, I'm convinced the Republican Party hates them even more. Look at what they did to Joe Miller in 2010. Look what they did to get their bitch Thad the nomination in MS a few weeks ago. The Republican Party *hates* the Tea Party.

On the other hand, the lefties don't just lie, call the Tea Party racist, laugh and pronounce "Koch" the wrong way like goddamn idiots. Or shout "teabagger"! "teabagger"! The left actually uses the goddamn IRS to go after members of the Tea Party.

And do you really think the Republicans are trying to get to the bottom of this IRS scandal? They want to use it to get more Thadpublicans elected. They're *happy* the IRS went after the Tea Party.

I think it's time for Tea Party sympathizers to recognize that the United States, as a constitutionally limited republic, is lost. There is no chance of electing people who believe in fiscal sanity. There is no chance of electing people who follow the Constitution. There is nothing close to a majority that believes in such things, and, if such a majority were to exist, there are forces powerful enough to defeat it.

Instead of pointlessly working to get people elected, I seriously think the Tea Partiers who believe in liberty and fiscal sanity should take a look at the ideas of cryptoanarchy. I don't consider myself a cryptoanarchist, but in a time like this we need to recognize useful alliances against common powerful enemies.

The IRS cannot harass you if they don't know who you are and they don't know how you're funded. Cryptoanarchy has solutions to these problems. Use them.

Go dark. Then throw the tea in the harbor.

is it really a religious movement? because its engineers are politicians; koch brothers. it's a pseudo grassroots movement, i agree, but the guys who bankrolled it probably wanted to be known as the masterminds that created it. they just want to obstruct governance and work their agenda.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/study-confirms-tea-party-_b_2663125.html

What you believe as a tea party person and what the national tea party lead by the Kock brothers is totally different than your view.  They are not interested in making this country better for you and me.  They don't give a shit about your freedoms.  Their goal is to make more money for themselves and are more than willing to use the tea party to obtain their goal.  Just as many politicians try and use the church for political gai

That does certainly seem to be the case regarding the mainstream media, some of these folks and their accusations against the tea party movement.  Thanks, Umair.  I didn't think you had it in you to be rational.  Well done.

Titus Oates, late in the reign of Charles II, is famed for having ginned up a wild conspiracy of Catholics to assassinate the King and install a regime of "popery" on the nation. His accusations were beyond absurd, Charles himself questioned him and laughed at him as an idiot, but the fears and hysteria of the arch-protestants made them willing to believe anything, no matter how idiotic, due to their fears of Catholicism.

Sound familiar? Look at how the 'baggers today view Washington, with that same ultimate paranoia that makes them willing to believe anything they are fed by the modern day Titus Oates--whether they be the Limbaughs, the Becks, the Fox News, no matter how hysterical or outlandish the accusations get, the fanatics--whether 'baggers or archprotestants, are willing to believe them.

I think the psychology between the 'baggers and the archreligious is the same, the only difference really is the object of their hatred and fear.

I am deeply committed and involved with three VERY active local local Tea Party groups in Alabama, Florida, and Georgia. NEVER, even once has religion been mentioned except 'under God' in the Pledge.Since we limit our vetting to our single Fiscal Sanity issues, there is no question that we will elect candidates with their 'social positions such as religion, all over the spectrum. Still, it is understandably why you Anti-American, Liberal Moonbats keep our Tea Party Movement as front page news. Fiscal Sanity VERY apparently scares all Parasites and Piranhas.

The Teabaggers do seem to go beyond the ordinary ideological sticks-in-the-mud, I am reading a book by Pat Buchanan right now about how Nixon united the GOP in 1964-68 and even he understood at the time the necessity of bending a bit with the wind. But the Teabaggers are so rigid that they can only be described as "stiffnecked" in the sense of the Jews who stuck their necks out to be hacked by the Romans rather than submit to the desecration of the temple by Roman totems to the Emperor.

And speaking of the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution,

Washington is seen in the same way Protestant fire-breathers once saw Rome: a seat of corruption that has betrayed the pillars of the faith.

Titus Oates, late in the reign of Charles II, is famed for having ginned up a wild conspiracy of Catholics to assassinate the King and install a regime of "popery" on the nation. His accusations were beyond absurd, Charles himself questioned him and laughed at him as an idiot, but the fears and hysteria of the arch-protestants made them willing to believe anything, no matter how idiotic, due to their fears of Catholicism.

Sound familiar? Look at how the 'baggers today view Washington, with that same ultimate paranoia that makes them willing to believe anything they are fed by the modern day Titus Oates--whether they be the Limbaughs, the Becks, the Fox News, no matter how hysterical or outlandish the accusations get, the fanatics--whether 'baggers or archprotestants, are willing to believe them.

I think the psychology between the 'baggers and the archreligious is the same, the only difference really is the object of their hatred and fear.

The English Civil War was fought in large part because the Puritans didn't feel that the Church of England was pure enough, and hated Laud for reinstalling some of the gaudier Catholic rites and forms. The whole point of the fear of an established church was the sectarianism that could lead to those sort of conflicts as had occurred barely a century before our own revolution. Religion is EXACTLY what led to the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution in 1688, do you know anything?

A porn star mom?  No kidding?   You really need to be a a rubber room somewhere.

You want to look at what Ted Cruz "fell from"


how about we look at what Barry Soetoro fell from


a communist polygamist and a porn star mom???

an uncle that's a murdering would be dictator??

a grandfather who was supported by his wife his entire life?

Do you really want to get into family histories??

It is very much like that.  There is real religious fervor underlying this movement (I'm talking about batshit Christian fundamentalism and Dominionists etc)..... and the "libertarian" contingent that likes to present itself as NOT about this, is happy to throw in with them anyway and just ignore the Christian jihadist aspect.   Ron and Rand Paul for example are Christianists to the core; they just don't advertise that part. 
If you want stark evidence of this, you only have to look at the tree that Ted Cruz fell from...Daddy Rafael.

They are so desperate to discredit the tea party movement they can't even rewrite history logically, LOL

They seemed to respect my atheist inclinations when I joined up with them.

Damn right it was and is a grassroots movement.

And I've been urging them to start taking donations in Bitcoin.

Funny, my Tea Party didn't have fuck all to do with religion, as I fucking hate religion. More revisionist history from the statists.

You are correct.  However, there is a fair sized block of Tea Party members who themselves are deeply religious and are anti-abortion, etc.  But that is not part of the Tea Party platform.

These guys understand these differences.
TEA= "Taxed Enough Already"

The Tea Party wants smaller government, less taxes, and a return to the Constitution. It's not about 'religion', and your insinuating author doesn't offer one iota of concrete evidence to back up his false assertions.

They're all religious movements; they all espouse strict adherence to the state, and if you disagree: KILL THE HERETIC

It was because the Founding Fathers did not want an official state religion like England had. Find us one Founding Father quote that says it was to 'prevent religious wars'. Liberals are so full of crap!