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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 02, 2023, 07:37:34 AM

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It is evident that fundamental news plays a significant role in driving the market, whether positive or negative. In many cases, the market behavior can override technical analysis when important news is released. For example, in forex trading, it is generally advised to avoid trading 30 minutes before and after high-impact news events. This principle also applies to crypto trading, including Bitcoin, as its price movements can have a significant impact on the volatility of other crypto pairs. Staying updated on the latest fundamental news related to the trading pairs, especially in the crypto and forex markets, is essential for analyzing their potential impact on price movements. Regularly reading and analyzing relevant news helps to make informed trading decisions.

The news is also affecting the decision of the people, when they hear negative news, they are selling off their coins top quickly but if they heard also positive, they keep on buying. Such scenarios will not just show how people are reliant on the news but somewhat a basis to make decisions. That is how the FUDs easily manipulated the market trend and it keeps on winning. And that is why only a few people can manage to hold long-term compared to the numbers of investors who are short-term.

Our buying and selling actions cause market movements. So it can be said that news does not affect the market, it affects our psychology and leads to our actions. People react to the news, and from there, they dump or keep buying, causing the market to move. Indeed, news plays a very important role in the market, and because of this, many sharks have also taken advantage of this weakness to spread Fuds to manipulate our psychology. It can be seen that the market does not move according to supply and demand, but mainly due to speculation by people, so the news has a significant influence on the market.

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It is evident that fundamental news plays a significant role in driving the market, whether positive or negative. In many cases, the market behavior can override technical analysis when important news is released. For example, in forex trading, it is generally advised to avoid trading 30 minutes before and after high-impact news events. This principle also applies to crypto trading, including Bitcoin, as its price movements can have a significant impact on the volatility of other crypto pairs. Staying updated on the latest fundamental news related to the trading pairs, especially in the crypto and forex markets, is essential for analyzing their potential impact on price movements. Regularly reading and analyzing relevant news helps to make informed trading decisions.

The news is also affecting the decision of the people, when they hear negative news, they are selling off their coins top quickly but if they heard also positive, they keep on buying. Such scenarios will not just show how people are reliant on the news but somewhat a basis to make decisions. That is how the FUDs easily manipulated the market trend and it keeps on winning. And that is why only a few people can manage to hold long-term compared to the numbers of investors who are short-term.

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Quote from: Iadegbola34 on May 27, 2023, 01:15:09 PM

Asset trends are heavily influenced by both technical and fundamental analyses. Fundamental research is more influential in mature markets such as equities. Due to the lack of fundamental data in more recent and speculative markets, such as cryptocurrency markets, technical analysis may have a greater impact. I'd advise you to consider both strategies and modify them according to market circumstances.

Fundamentals are fine enough, you don't need TA for every project and because TA is only half of the times correct don't take the TA as the future but only as an indication of a possible future. It is better to not depend on analysis at all. If you are going with day trading then analysis does play a role. But if you are going long term, you could leave TA aside, use the general metrics to determine buying and selling prices which can lead to good profits.

While some people can use TA to make huge profits over day trading not everyone can and so it's better not to follow them and do more of long term trades.

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Quote from: Kara3 on April 23, 2023, 01:18:58 AM

Analysing the trend of the crypto market can be very complicated, base on the fact that their are two major deciding factor in price analysis when trading, which are the technical indicators an news about a project.
I have not been in the crypto space for not too long but I have come to the conclusion that the news is more influential in the trend of the market than the technical indicators, guys what do you think?

To my own understanding, market is driven by sentiments and emotions, the technical indicators are tools that guide you next direction of the market and the news makes the direction faster but this depends on the type of the news that hit the public. You can have a market in a downtrend and when a bad news comes that can cause fear, people will panic and sell their bags and if it is positive, the news can invalidate your trades, that is the relationship between news and trading indicators.

If you are new to all the ways of the market, just have an assumption that the market will pump especially now that the market is in bear mode, now way a crash will come that will bring bitcoin below $15k, buy what you have in mind and hold, they will pump and when the news comes, that will be a bonus for pumping of the coins.

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Quote from: irhact on May 28, 2023, 01:27:38 AM

The cryptocurrency market is full of inexperienced traders that depends mostly on news to trade and that's why the market is too volatility. I have noticed that in the market when there's a positive news about a project in the bull market, it affects the market more than fundamentals. Traders and investors just rush to buy the coins in hope of expecting a good return due to the news they just heard.

What most traders do is, buy the rumors and sell the news and that's what has more effective in the market as when you observe how the market moves you'll see many projects gets pumped when there's a positive rumor and immediately that event happens the coin dumps.

I doubt that market volatility depends on inexperienced traders, perhaps large traders can influence small-cap tokens, but the same cannot be said for inexperienced traders who are practically unable to influence the market.

Perhaps there are those who buy or sell only based on the news, but it seems to me that such trading is initially doomed to loss of funds. The analysis should be comprehensive, in which case there will be significantly more chances for successful trading.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 27, 2023, 11:45:01 PM

That's why we need to be able to use news and analysis to complement each other so we can know what's going to happen and get into the market whenever possible. Maybe our analysis will not always be right because there must be a shift from what we have predicted, which is normal. But at least we can foresee what will happen so we can be prepared for all the possibilities. And if we can improve our analytical skills and get valid resources, it will be useful for analyzing market conditions.

The analysis is just a warning that the market will approach the conditions that we have predicted using technical and fundamentals.
No forecast will be 100% correct, there will be some conditions that will not be the same and never imagined.
Continuously improving your analytical skills will give you a better knowledge and reading of the market.

Quote from: dansus021 on May 27, 2023, 11:50:43 PM

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FUD and fomo news usually comes out of nowhere. Just careful when do trade always put stop losses and take profit area know how to take profit know how to stop losses

FUD and FOMO arise from various parties who have the influence to control market prices.
Whales will manipulate the market by creating FUD to drive the price lower and be able to buy it at a lower price, then it will be followed by FOMO so that the price rises and can sell at a high price. this is a game so there will be a lot of price speculation.

Quote from: irhact on May 28, 2023, 01:27:38 AM

The cryptocurrency market is full of inexperienced traders that depends mostly on news to trade and that's why the market is too volatility. I have noticed that in the market when there's a positive news about a project in the bull market, it affects the market more than fundamentals. Traders and investors just rush to buy the coins in hope of expecting a good return due to the news they just heard.
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Traders who are inexperienced and only trade based on news or other people's advice, are actually not safe, they will be the bait used by the Whales to move the market.
Traders and investors who only buy and sell in a hurry do not have any foundation so they are easy to manipulate.

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Quote from: Iadegbola34 on May 27, 2023, 01:15:09 PM

Asset trends are heavily influenced by both technical and fundamental analyses. Fundamental research is more influential in mature markets such as equities. Due to the lack of fundamental data in more recent and speculative markets, such as cryptocurrency markets, technical analysis may have a greater impact. I'd advise you to consider both strategies and modify them according to market circumstances.

The cryptocurrency market is full of inexperienced traders that depends mostly on news to trade and that's why the market is too volatility. I have noticed that in the market when there's a positive news about a project in the bull market, it affects the market more than fundamentals. Traders and investors just rush to buy the coins in hope of expecting a good return due to the news they just heard.

What most traders do is, buy the rumors and sell the news and that's what has more effective in the market as when you observe how the market moves you'll see many projects gets pumped when there's a positive rumor and immediately that event happens the coin dumps.

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Quote from: fauzan Ichsan on May 27, 2023, 02:31:03 AM

Technical analysis will be broken if you get news that can shake the market. however, we can observe that it will stop at support or resistance that occurs, so it is safest to use technical analysis at normal times, so there will be more work, especially in forex we know the news schedule that can be seen on the forex factory, you have to be careful when news is red, often unexpected movements occur. whereas fomo and fud can also provide wild movements if many psychology is affected

Agreed date of news sometimes can be predicted on economic calendar so we still need technical analysis for day trading or doing scalping when there is no news.

FUD and fomo news usually comes out of nowhere. Just careful when do trade always put stop losses and take profit area know how to take profit know how to stop losses

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Quote from: taufik123 on May 27, 2023, 03:45:41 PM

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The news may be more influential than technical indicators, but that is not always true. Those of us who have traded often see that news can shake market prices because when people read or see it, they will think that something will happen to the market. But if the news has no effect, the market will not change and will only continue its movement. And for that, we should be able to collect more news to support our analysis to find clues about where the price will move. If we can't, we will find it difficult to find the moment to enter the market.

More specifically it is about Technical Analysis and Fundamental Analysis, both of which have an attachment and will complement each other.
Both analyses also give an idea of what will happen to the market in the future.

News will change every direction of the market to bearish or bullish, and Technicals using Indicators will be a machine that will continue to run along with the direction.

Mastering both analytical sciences will help a person understand the market well and be able to analyze based on technicals and fundamentals.

That's why we need to be able to use news and analysis to complement each other so we can know what's going to happen and get into the market whenever possible. Maybe our analysis will not always be right because there must be a shift from what we have predicted, which is normal. But at least we can foresee what will happen so we can be prepared for all the possibilities. And if we can improve our analytical skills and get valid resources, it will be useful for analyzing market conditions.

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Quote from: ItsCrafty on May 14, 2023, 10:35:02 AM

I appreciate your analysis but as per my experience and having taking a comparative review , a little bit disagree with your opinion because I have been trading for some time, but news is very closely related to trading. Instead of indicators , the vitality of good or bad news plays key role in the trading. That's why sometimes the indicators are pointing you in a very good direction, but global news affect the trading worldwide...

It is for this reason that all traders are waiting with bated breath for another speech by the head of the Federal Reserve System, Mr. Powell, since it depends on whether the markets will rise or fall. And at such moments, you should not focus on technical and fundamental analysis, since the price may move in the opposite direction.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 27, 2023, 04:18:55 AM

The news may be more influential than technical indicators, but that is not always true. Those of us who have traded often see that news can shake market prices because when people read or see it, they will think that something will happen to the market. But if the news has no effect, the market will not change and will only continue its movement. And for that, we should be able to collect more news to support our analysis to find clues about where the price will move. If we can't, we will find it difficult to find the moment to enter the market.

More specifically it is about Technical Analysis and Fundamental Analysis, both of which have an attachment and will complement each other.
Both analyses also give an idea of what will happen to the market in the future.

News will change every direction of the market to bearish or bullish, and Technicals using Indicators will be a machine that will continue to run along with the direction.

Mastering both analytical sciences will help a person understand the market well and be able to analyze based on technicals and fundamentals.

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Asset trends are heavily influenced by both technical and fundamental analyses. Fundamental research is more influential in mature markets such as equities. Due to the lack of fundamental data in more recent and speculative markets, such as cryptocurrency markets, technical analysis may have a greater impact. I'd advise you to consider both strategies and modify them according to market circumstances.

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The news may be more influential than technical indicators, but that is not always true. Those of us who have traded often see that news can shake market prices because when people read or see it, they will think that something will happen to the market. But if the news has no effect, the market will not change and will only continue its movement. And for that, we should be able to collect more news to support our analysis to find clues about where the price will move. If we can't, we will find it difficult to find the moment to enter the market.

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 26, 2023, 09:20:05 PM

Fundamental is first Most of Crypto, forex and Stock trader that I know from telegram,youtube, or trading view is always analyzed the news before they made a technical analysis.

and pretty much news is powerful that is why lot of people hate the Fud or FOMO news. because how no matter you are good at technical analysis with a bunch of indicators can still losses when there is big news sowed up. Take example with Mr. Jerome Powell of the Fed Raising interest rate all the market will shaken

Technical analysis will be broken if you get news that can shake the market. however, we can observe that it will stop at support or resistance that occurs, so it is safest to use technical analysis at normal times, so there will be more work, especially in forex we know the news schedule that can be seen on the forex factory, you have to be careful when news is red, often unexpected movements occur. whereas fomo and fud can also provide wild movements if many psychology is affected

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Fundamental is first Most of Crypto, forex and Stock trader that I know from telegram,youtube, or trading view is always analyzed the news before they made a technical analysis.

and pretty much news is powerful that is why lot of people hate the Fud or FOMO news. because how no matter you are good at technical analysis with a bunch of indicators can still losses when there is big news sowed up. Take example with Mr. Jerome Powell of the Fed Raising interest rate all the market will shaken

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Quote from: Kara3 on April 23, 2023, 01:18:58 AM

Analysing the trend of the crypto market can be very complicated, base on the fact that their are two major deciding factor in price analysis when trading, which are the technical indicators an news about a project.
I have not been in the crypto space for not too long but I have come to the conclusion that the news is more influential in the trend of the market than the technical indicators, guys what do you think?

i just considers news an anomaly to the technical analysis, it always changes the course of the market almost immediately when the good news or bad news comes out.
therefore the technical analysis suddenly become useless. moreover, i'd argue that news have much more influence than general technical analysis because actually it could create fomo rather quite easily.
meanwhile technical analysis in general could be taken advantage instead, by the whales to get ahead of you and rob you of your capital eventually.
but sometimes news can be less influential too, at some cases when the market is having bullrun, even bad news does quite literally nothing.

Its actually random and TA's couldnt really be precise 100% all the time but having something like this could able to at least patch up on what are the things that must done.
Just like on what others been saying above that its better to deal up with the market with having this kind of analysis rather than on having that totally random approach on making your
positions which it doesnt really make sense since it could be called gambling if ever you do have that kind of treatment.

There's no point on making some collision in between technical and fundamental because both are really that beneficial if you do just know on how to utilize these things. Some do prefer
on technical but also welcoming out some fundamentals on the time that news would really be coming out. We know that this market is really
that highly reactive when it comes to news on which it is really just that right on having that interchangeable kind of approach basing up on the situation.

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Quote from: Kara3 on April 23, 2023, 01:18:58 AM

Analysing the trend of the crypto market can be very complicated, base on the fact that their are two major deciding factor in price analysis when trading, which are the technical indicators an news about a project.
I have not been in the crypto space for not too long but I have come to the conclusion that the news is more influential in the trend of the market than the technical indicators, guys what do you think?

i just considers news an anomaly to the technical analysis, it always changes the course of the market almost immediately when the good news or bad news comes out.
therefore the technical analysis suddenly become useless. moreover, i'd argue that news have much more influence than general technical analysis because actually it could create fomo rather quite easily.
meanwhile technical analysis in general could be taken advantage instead, by the whales to get ahead of you and rob you of your capital eventually.
but sometimes news can be less influential too, at some cases when the market is having bullrun, even bad news does quite literally nothing.

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Quote from: Kara3 on April 23, 2023, 01:18:58 AM

Analysing the trend of the crypto market can be very complicated, base on the fact that their are two major deciding factor in price analysis when trading, which are the technical indicators an news about a project.
I have not been in the crypto space for not too long but I have come to the conclusion that the news is more influential in the trend of the market than the technical indicators, guys what do you think?

Technical indicators provide insights into short-term price patterns and market sentiment, while news and fundamental analysis help understand the long-term prospects and potential catalysts for a cryptocurrency.

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Yes, no doubt about it. For a kind of person like me who doesn't really into TA I mean I am not so expert in TA I rely mostly on the news. I spend time checking Twitter, telegram and other news outlet such as Bloomberg. It really helps me to decide whether I will buy that certain token or coin or should I make DCA. But then we should learn TA of course and some other trading instrument so we can trade efficiently.

In trading, if technical indicators and news are compared, it is clear that most of the trading is done on the basis of technical indicators. There is no doubt that news always influences the trading market, but that doesn't mean you should prioritize news over technical indicators, or trade depending on the news. Any good news can make the market go up and any bad news can cause the market to fall, and sometimes no good or bad news affects the market.

Therefore, you should always prefer technical indicators and try to trade using as many technical indicators as possible.

You could actually do both things if you do like or something that preferable because we know that this market cant really be having that news all the time which means it would be needing to be read up by using up those technical indicators on which we do commonly make use if ever the market is having no sentiments or things around in speaking about news which it would really be just that a common approach to be done.
There's no need for us to choose in between two because both are really that significant on certain situations on which it would really be just that right that you should really be making out some adjustments if
ever you do see that it would really be that relevant.Its up to you whether you would be using TA or FA on a certain condition which you would easily switch up in between which is something that really a very common
approach of a certain good trader. As long you do know on how you would really be able to handle yourself then its up to you on what you should gonna do.

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Quote from: molsewid on May 13, 2023, 04:39:46 PM

Yes, no doubt about it. For a kind of person like me who doesn't really into TA I mean I am not so expert in TA I rely mostly on the news. I spend time checking Twitter, telegram and other news outlet such as Bloomberg. It really helps me to decide whether I will buy that certain token or coin or should I make DCA. But then we should learn TA of course and some other trading instrument so we can trade efficiently.

In trading, if technical indicators and news are compared, it is clear that most of the trading is done on the basis of technical indicators. There is no doubt that news always influences the trading market, but that doesn't mean you should prioritize news over technical indicators, or trade depending on the news. Any good news can make the market go up and any bad news can cause the market to fall, and sometimes no good or bad news affects the market.

Therefore, you should always prefer technical indicators and try to trade using as many technical indicators as possible.

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