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legendary
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September 10, 2019, 02:57:42 AM
#46
Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion.

Again, not a great reason to add someone to your trust list.

Again, you too don't have any great reasons to exclude someone in your trust list.

Example: ME.

You have been judged guilty of not agreeing with everything him and his friends say.

sr. member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 415
September 10, 2019, 02:48:21 AM
#45
Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion.

Again, not a great reason to add someone to your trust list.

Again, you too don't have any great reasons to exclude someone in your trust list.

Example: ME.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
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September 10, 2019, 02:40:35 AM
#44
Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion.

Again, not a great reason to add someone to your trust list.

I think it is a great reason. Why shouldn't I add people who are being targeted by abusive nepotists hellbent on preventing anyone else from having any influence in "their" trust system to counter that abuse? Oh right, because your friends are the abusers. Clearly that is unacceptable then, because you don't approve of the results. Anything else turdburgler, or are you all tuckered out and ready for a shower?
legendary
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September 10, 2019, 02:36:58 AM
#43
Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion.

Again, not a great reason to add someone to your trust list.
legendary
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Merit: 2008
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September 10, 2019, 02:31:27 AM
#42
Regarding your accusation... They were on the default trust, as "0", so effectively for many purposes they were only on it after I added them. The others who were already on it I added because they were trusted by other Turkish individuals I have had contact with and felt were trustworthy.

Even if someone gets added to DT1 at net zero, they are still being added to DT1. They have the ability to vote for other DT1, which is what you like most about them. And even if what you are saying is true, is that still a good reason to add someone to your trust list? Do you speak Turkish, or Russian for that matter?

No matter how you spin your actions, its pretty obvious what your endgame is. You had to know you were going to get caught at some point. Should have come up with a better backstory during that time.

Yes wanting to see the trust list be more diverse is a good reason to add people, because the current clown cartel is nepotistic, abusive, arbitrary, and destructive to the overall community.

"More diverse" is not a good reason. I didn't know you were such a fan of affirmative action. You really only think they're a benefit if they include you in their trust list, or benefit you personally in some way. If they don't, you could care less about them.

Why aren't you working for Mrs. Cleo since you clearly think you have the ability to read minds? That is why I added them to my inclusions, you are free to invent your own baseless interpretations of why you think I did it all you like, that doesn't make them make any sense.

I wasn't aware I had to speak the language of every user I add, I figured the fact that they spoke to me in English was good enough, but I guess not for you. There is no spin, I have been absolutely transparent in my activities and countering your sad little inquisition is about as hard as fighting my way out of a wet paper bag. Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion.

Next you will be telling me about how my breathing patterns are actually secret codes I am sending to the Turks so we can take control of Bitcointalk, and the fact that I am still breathing is suspect. Do you ever just look at yourself and think, "Man I really am a pathetic human being with no life." ? Because you really should. It could be a growth experience for you. According to you and the other clown car inhabitants, every shit I take is suspicious and worthy of an in depth breakdown. Feel free to dig through my excrement looking for illicit peanuts if you like, just don't blame me when you get all covered in shit.
legendary
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September 10, 2019, 01:57:56 AM
#41
Regarding your accusation... They were on the default trust, as "0", so effectively for many purposes they were only on it after I added them. The others who were already on it I added because they were trusted by other Turkish individuals I have had contact with and felt were trustworthy.

Even if someone gets added to DT1 at net zero, they are still being added to DT1. They have the ability to vote for other DT1, which is what you like most about them. And even if what you are saying is true, is that still a good reason to add someone to your trust list? Do you speak Turkish, or Russian for that matter?

No matter how you spin your actions, its pretty obvious what your endgame is. You had to know you were going to get caught at some point. Should have come up with a better backstory during that time.

Yes wanting to see the trust list be more diverse is a good reason to add people, because the current clown cartel is nepotistic, abusive, arbitrary, and destructive to the overall community.

"More diverse" is not a good reason. I didn't know you were such a fan of affirmative action. You really only think they're a benefit if they include you in their trust list, or benefit you personally in some way. If they don't, you could care less about them.
sr. member
Activity: 1288
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September 10, 2019, 12:39:30 AM
#40
To be clear - I'm stating that TECSHARE's trust ratings should not be considered honest and there is an agenda behind his trust list manipulation.   He is scamming the trust system.   :/

I think one can use ~TECSHARE to solve this issue and to avoid his ratings.

He is in DT due to the community inclusions he has received, it cannot be stated as scamming the trust system nor manipulation.

Or you could solve this issue by using ~Vod, I would think that would be a more effective solution, especially since he is abusing the trust system again to play his little petty games of retribution.

Vod   2019-09-09 Reference "This profile has fundamentally abused the trust system, trading positive trust with as many others as possible to get on Default Trust. See reference and the BPIP DT Change Log for examples. Do not trust this profile's trust of others by adding ~TECSHARE to your personal trust list. "

This feedback left by VOD is total mess here, I don't know how he thinks this would help newbies to stay safe, as TECSHARE is not an harm to newbies here rather much helpful as it's seen. He has not even traded positive trust, and has reached DT due is own ways of dealing around with the issue's here.

One can use trust list to handle such issue, really all this conspires as made up drama to hit TECSHARE, and get him off DT with whatever childish made up accusation you can.

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.
His most recent change was by rallier no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

Look, perfect example of twisting the situation as per your agenda, its clearly stated by TECSHARE that he did this because he didn't like some of the changes in rallier's trust list.

He said some changes and accuser's still starts cherry picking, to fit some agendas. This reflects really bad on you dude !
legendary
Activity: 3318
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September 10, 2019, 12:13:20 AM
#39
"7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer trusts by rallier (2)
7/27/2019 6:43:30 PM    taikuri13 (11) trusts witcher_sense (9)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) changed from distrusting to trusting owlcatz (25)"

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

His most recent change was by rallier no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

but look!

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   TECSHARE no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

Just another lie from the scammer TECSHARE.  :/

You mean the trust list change over cycle?

"8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    TMAN (24) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    mindrust (1) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    nutildah (11) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    micgoossens (4) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    kenzawak (-7) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    DireWolfM14 (7) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    OgNasty (4) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    Rmcdermott927 (-2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    ekiller (-2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)"

I guess they are all part of the conspiracy. Come on Vod, this is pathetic, even for you.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 09, 2019, 11:50:28 PM
#38
"7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer trusts by rallier (2)
7/27/2019 6:43:30 PM    taikuri13 (11) trusts witcher_sense (9)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) changed from distrusting to trusting owlcatz (25)"

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

His most recent change was by rallier no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

but look!

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   TECSHARE no longer distrusts Last of the V8s
(Part of the change over cycle)
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
September 09, 2019, 11:38:31 PM
#37
I love this critical analysis of everyone I add to my trust list as if I obviously should be suspect, but any time I bring up say the inclusion of Nutilduhhh even though the account was publicly offered for sale, no one bothers replying. Of course I am required to defend my inclusions but no one else in the clown car mob is. More rules for thee but not for me, that's Bitcointalk SOP.

I'm not the one going around adding new DT1 members from local boards one after another like you are. If you want to dig for flaws in my own trust system setup, feel free.

You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse.

Wrong. With the exception of Vispilio, they were all already on DT when you added them. Matthias added you in the week of 6/22, along with a dozen other DT1s. He didn't become DT1 until 8/2. You added him to your trust list 3 hours later.

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   Matthias9515* (2) trusts TECSHARE
8/2/2019 8:25:25 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts Matthias9515 (2)

This guy was made DT1 in the week of 6/29. You added him on 7/23, and when he failed to reciprocate in a period of 5 days, you dumped him:

7/23/2019 9:34:59 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts by rallier (2)
7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM   TECSHARE (0) no longer trusts by rallier

Kalemder was made DT1 on 9/4/2019 at 12:35:13 AM. You included him 16 hours later.

bobita was made DT1 on 8/2/2019. You included him 2 days later.

mhanbostanci was re-added to DT1 on 9/4. You included him 3 days later.

Regardless, is "wanting to see it more diverse" a good reason to add people to your trust list?

Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in.

Is this also a good reason to add people to your trust list?

I know you are trying desperately to rekindle this narrative and attempt upon my character, but it has already been addressed and failed. Now the simple fact that I add people to my trust list is grounds for suspicion? How desperate are you clowns, really? YOU are the primary flaw in your trust system setup, as far as anyone knows your account is bought and you have no way to prove otherwise. Yet here you are playing Rachel Maddow crafing your very own little Russian Turkish collusion narrative to draw attention away from you and yours in an exceptionally pathetic attempt to silence me and prevent me from having any say in this system, because it means your pals don't get to play Bitdictators anymore.

Regarding your accusation... They were on the default trust, as "0", so effectively for many purposes they were only on it after I added them. The others who were already on it I added because they were trusted by other Turkish individuals I have had contact with and felt were trustworthy. Regarding by rallier, it is rather convenient how you cropped that log...

"7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer trusts by rallier (2)
7/27/2019 6:43:30 PM    taikuri13 (11) trusts witcher_sense (9)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) changed from distrusting to trusting owlcatz (25)"

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

Yes wanting to see the trust list be more diverse is a good reason to add people, because the current clown cartel is nepotistic, abusive, arbitrary, and destructive to the overall community. That behavior ends when power is distributed enough that they can't run roughshod over anyone who dares speak a word against them, much like the entire purpose of these coordinated attacks against myself the moment this interaction with the Turks changed the trust list status quo.

There are plenty of people on my trust list that don't add me reciprocally, even people I don't particularly like. This whole fantasy you have imagineered to project upon me is just the latest sadly transparent attempt to "get me" and I find it hard not laugh at how increasingly desperate and dumb you all look doing it.

 
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 09, 2019, 11:04:22 PM
#36
1.5minutes in between my reply and his post. Preplanned attack. Get your drama kick off someone else.

My drama kick was sending you a PM telling you OG was making a good attempt to ignore me and I didn't want to stir up drama?  You are the drama queen lol.

Ok, back to topic.  

legendary
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September 09, 2019, 11:02:53 PM
#35
Try not to put words in my mouth. I said you were a piece of shit.. not childish.

Liar.   Roll Eyes

I believe I turned net positive this month and I received your PM begging me to remove my negative this month. Good enough timeline for me and my statement.

I never even asked for you to remove the negative, much less beg, liar.
1.5minutes in between my reply and his post. Preplanned attack. Get your drama kick off someone else.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 09, 2019, 10:59:16 PM
#34
Try not to put words in my mouth. I said you were a piece of shit.. not childish.

Liar.   Roll Eyes

I believe I turned net positive this month and I received your PM begging me to remove my negative this month. Good enough timeline for me and my statement.

I never even asked for you to remove the negative, much less beg, liar.
legendary
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September 09, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
#33
Begging me in PM the moment I turned net positive in DT1 again was icing on the cake.

Six days ago?   Embarrassed

I had decided to give you another chance after all the promises you made, but you've been an obvious OG copy cat since day one.  Now you are posting misleading statements like the one above, just like he does

Considering the amicable history we've had in PM, your ignoring my PM and then lying about when it was sent is very childish - same thing you accuse me of being.
Try not to put words in my mouth. I said you were a piece of shit.. not childish.
This also seems like you are trying to bait me into releasing private messages so you can use that against me. I believe I turned net positive this month and I received your PM begging me to remove my negative this month. Good enough timeline for me and my statement.

You're not worth my time replying to anymore and any communication from yourself to me Vod can be considered unsolicited.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 09, 2019, 10:39:11 PM
#32
Begging me in PM the moment I turned net positive in DT1 again was icing on the cake.

Six days ago?   Embarrassed

I had decided to give you another chance after all the promises you made, but you've been an obvious OG copy cat since day one.  Now you are posting misleading statements like the one above, just like he does.  

Considering the amicable history we've had in PM, your ignoring my PM and then lying about when it was sent is very childish - same thing you accuse me of being.

Edit:  Since you've lied about the contents and time of a PM I sent you, I've blocked your PMs.   Keep everything public from now on.
legendary
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September 09, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
#31
In the last two weeks we have seen the words racist and scammer used in very very poor fashion on the forum.

And all the lying, too.   Didn't you post several times you would be changing my negative trust to neutral?  You kept repeating that until things calmed down, then you did nothing.  :/
You're right. You continued to be a piece of shit in general so I decided it would stick. Who runs my trust/feedback lists? Certainly not you. Begging me in PM the moment I turned net positive in DT1 again was icing on the cake.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 09, 2019, 10:14:08 PM
#30
I won't go so far as to say this makes him a "scammer," but its pretty dishonest behavior.

I have not used the word "scam" in my official complaint on his trust page.  To me, scammer can mean someone who operates in a dishonest or deceptive way.  But not everyone believes that, so I just stated what happened and let people come to their own conclusions.

There should really be an open discussion as to whether or not this type of behavior is an acceptable practice for a DT1 member, and as shown by the fact that TECSHARE is now back at -1, its safe to say that the community agrees that its not.

The community will decide overall.  If some stop trusting me because I called out a cheater, more people will cheat.  If not, it should be a warning to others wanting to trade trust that we will not tolerate it.
legendary
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September 09, 2019, 09:42:49 PM
#29
I love this critical analysis of everyone I add to my trust list as if I obviously should be suspect, but any time I bring up say the inclusion of Nutilduhhh even though the account was publicly offered for sale, no one bothers replying. Of course I am required to defend my inclusions but no one else in the clown car mob is. More rules for thee but not for me, that's Bitcointalk SOP.

I'm not the one going around adding new DT1 members from local boards one after another like you are. If you want to dig for flaws in my own trust system setup, feel free.

You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse.

Wrong. With the exception of Vispilio, they were all already on DT when you added them. Matthias added you in the week of 6/22, along with a dozen other DT1s. He didn't become DT1 until 8/2. You added him to your trust list 3 hours later.

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   Matthias9515* (2) trusts TECSHARE
8/2/2019 8:25:25 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts Matthias9515 (2)

This guy was made DT1 in the week of 6/29. You added him on 7/23, and when he failed to reciprocate in a period of 5 days, you dumped him:

7/23/2019 9:34:59 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts by rallier (2)
7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM   TECSHARE (0) no longer trusts by rallier

Kalemder was made DT1 on 9/4/2019 at 12:35:13 AM. You included him 16 hours later.

bobita was made DT1 on 8/2/2019. You included him 2 days later.

mhanbostanci was re-added to DT1 on 9/4. You included him 3 days later.

Regardless, is "wanting to see it more diverse" a good reason to add people to your trust list?

Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in.

Is this also a good reason to add people to your trust list?
legendary
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September 09, 2019, 07:09:11 PM
#28
The arguments are very real, and you seem to love them Smiley

None of the arguments (such as racism) presented are valid reasons for a flag.

and ok good to know by your own admission, since that flag is long removed now,

Do you still think it was ok to create the flag to begin with? And why did you withdraw your support for it?


Could it be because he was targeted using the same methodology first? Nah. I am sure all these attacks on me that sprung up after convincing several of the Turkish members to withdraw support for it because it doesn't serve their goals are total coincidences as well. We cant have the out group acting respectable and earning the respect of too many users right? That could challenge your unilateral nepotistic control now couldn't it?

They have been under attack, but not because they are Turkish, but because they are not part of the special boy default trust circus club and their presence challenges your control.
legendary
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September 09, 2019, 06:51:06 PM
#27
The arguments are very real, and you seem to love them Smiley

None of the arguments (such as racism) presented are valid reasons for a flag.

and ok good to know by your own admission, since that flag is long removed now,

Do you still think it was ok to create the flag to begin with? And why did you withdraw your support for it?
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