Topic: Tecshare lied about me scamming him - page 2. (Read 5368 times)

Actually no. As I stated I refuse to transfer my right to the work I've been promised under contract. Matthew paid for it and TECSHARE agreed he paid for it. I want the work or the money returned. The money can be returned to me or to Matthew.

I have heard back from Matthew.  It's probably not what anyone wants to hear but it looks like both parties are telling the truth here.  Matthew did make a post saying that he would instruct Tecshare to finish the work and give it to usagi and that usagi should regard it as a gift.  From the information Matthew has shared with me it appears that he didn't actually do that when Tecshare contacted him about whether he (Matthew) wanted the files.

If Matthew paid TECSHARE with the intention of paying for the contract and the goods it entailed, then I would think TECSHARE should provide him with the artwork. I see that someone is asking Matthew about the terms of the payment, so maybe that will help sort it out.

If Matthew paid TECSHARE with the intention of paying for the contract and the goods it entailed, then I would think TECSHARE should provide him with the artwork. I see that someone is asking Matthew about the terms of the payment, so maybe that will help sort it out.

You're right but TECSHARE has stated that Matthew was the one that paid him. So he accepted that the transfer took place:

There's a flaw in your legal argument here: you were the one paying for the item in question, right? The assignment of the debt to an assignee is done by the person collecting payment, which would have been TECSHARE. Did TECSHARE contract Matthew as his assignee? Or did Matthew simply offer to pay him for the work he did?

In terms of payment for a good or service, you're the obligor here. Not TECSHARE.

...Mathew M. Wright took mercy on you and paid for the contract...

...an UNSOLICITED 3rd party paid for the work that was completed...
...I was compensated by a 3rd party for work currently rendered.

Usagi, there's no need to defend yourself I feel, as TECSHARE has already been paid for the work. I will be instructing him to finish the work and give it to you, as I recognize this as being a miscommunication. Do with them as you will, consider it as a gift regardless from a fan ^_^

So you are saying I had no right to assign the debt to Matthew N. Wright, and therefore, you have not been paid?

http://contracts.uslegal.com/third-parties-and-assignments/

An assignment is a transfer of rights that a party has under a contract to another person, called an assignee.  The assigning party is called the assignor.  An assignee of a contract may generally sue directly on the contract rather than suing in the name of the assignor.  The other party to the original contract is called the obligor.  For example, suppose I sell my car to Larry for $10,000.00.  He does not have $10,000.00 in cash, but executes an agreement stating that he agrees to pay me $500.00 a month for 20 months.  I then assign this contract to Peggy.  Larry is the obligor, I am the assignor, and Peggy is the assignee.

Unless there is a statute that requires that certain language be used in an assignment or that the assignment be in writing, there are really no formal requirements for an assignment.  Any words which show the intent to transfer rights under a contract are sufficient to constitute an assignment.

I think Matthew's intention is pretty clear. What is it that you don't understand about this?

Usagi

It is your fiduciary responsibility to produce Motion 80 to prove that you did not intentionally defraud your investors.

But you can't produce Motion 80 because it will prove the core accusation against you.

That you are a scammer.

usai,

How is it that you can so precisely quote and reference internet citation of contract langue and definitions to fit your needs

but it is IMPOSSIBLE

for you to produce evident that you deleted from you wordpress website that could prove you are right.

THAT IS BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY PROVE ALL THE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST YOU.

Please produce Motion 80.

 

FWIW, I've contacted Matthew regarding this and will let you know his response.

Notice his careful wording here where he claims ownership, yet refuses to admit he made no such payment.

You violated our contract and YOU did not pay. In the court of law that means you have ZERO rights to any work I created. Just because an UNSOLICITED 3rd party paid for the work that was completed up to that point does not mean you have any right to claim completion of the contract. I was not compensated according to the contract, I was compensated by a 3rd party for work currently rendered. You are not owed high resolution images, you are owed what you have up to this point, and you already have it.

It is precisely because you did not treat me fairly that I do not deal with you. Among other infractions, how dare you suggest I do not have the right to ask for what I have been promised under contract, and which was paid for?

usagi

You may win the battle but you most certainly will lose the war.

You're arrogance is undeniable

you're desperation is palpable

and your sheer stupidity is just unbelievable

I wanted to bring attention to the fact that USAGI has once again shown himself to not only be dishonest, but willing to lie even further to cover up his past mistakes to the point of implicating himself with his self contradictions.

In this thread "Topic: Counter Evidence for the BCB thread": https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1427043
(which was promptly locked)

USAGI claims that I "DEFRAUDED" him. In order for me to have defrauded him he would have to have paid for something, ANYTHING. I was paid by Mathew M. Wright for work USAGI contracted, but later refused to pay for. Because of his own issues with his investments failing he felt he did not need to honor our contract, and later claimed it was spec work (it was not). Explained in detail with quotes here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/payment-not-delivered-work-rendered-for-usagi-payment-made-by-matthew-n-102798

Furthermore Mathew M. Wright never gave me instruction to release the files to you. He told you he did in a public thread but no such action was taken. As far as I am concerned if Mathew has a problem with it he can contact me. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CLAIM I SCAMMED YOU OUT OF ANYTHING - you didn't pay for a god damned thing, and these repeated counter accusations are not only extremely childish but quite transparent. Here is his counter accusation which is shockingly deleted.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tecshare-lied-about-me-scamming-him-103045

In summation, stop making childish accusations to draw attention away from your own failures. I hope I don't have to read any more baseless accusations from you in the future.