Topic: Tecshare Maliciously Abused The BitcoinTalk Trust System - page 4. (Read 7518 times)

IMO feedback should only be given out if you have a legitimate reason to either trust or distrust someone. Except for very extreme circumstances you should not give negative feedback for personal reasons (although the feedback system is not moderated).

I agree that if feedback is given for invalid reasons (as per what members of the community think) then a person's "real" level of trust and reputation will be tarnished. It is also noteworthy that any given person is only on default trust for as long as others on "level one" of default trust deem necessary for them to be on default trust (in other words this status can be revoked at any time)

Thank you for your opinion, but that's all it is. Your opinion. We are all free to use the feedback system here without coercion regardless of a trade occurring, or your indifferent proclamation of moral violations. This was a direct attack, not just a casual comment or two, and I consider it to be indicative of being untrustworthy.

I didn't see those other threads/posts, although they appear to be a result of an escalation of the situation after you gave him negative trust. I was referring to the posts on this thread (the one mentioned in the OP here).

No I don't think that others have any right to be able to set the price that you sell items for, but if you are giving a bad deal then that fact will be pointed out by others. Although I would not consider the price you were/are selling your gift card to be a scam, the same is true when there are potential scams; the community will point out that anyone dealing with the person will likely get scammed (you can look at Vod's posting history to see this in action, as he will often point out potential scams long before he gives negative trust to someone).

It is my understanding that the trust system is designed to allow people to warn others of a scammer and/or people who are showing signs of untrustworthyness. For example if someone was promoting a potential scam, were trying to scam, promoting a ponzi, then you should give negative trust (or if you were scammed or there is evidence that someone else was scammed). If you can point to the OP doing one of the above, or can give a reason that you consider valid as to why you think others should "trade with caution" then the trust is valid; if you cannot give a reason why you think the OP has or will scam then your trust is not valid.

LOL.  Why take off your socks if you can just use a calculator?  There's one on most phones and computers.   

So other people get to decide what price I get to sell my property at now? Asking for what I paid for an item now is unreasonable is it? I shouldn't have a right to have a thread without people using it as a tool of harassment without any desire for actual trade whatsoever?  BTW for you information he didn't delete his posts, he deleted one then continued to post more after he was emboldened by the resulting replies. Its not like I am misrepresenting myself and trying to cover something up, its simply not any of his business what I sell my property for.

BTW he hasn't deleted anything:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/land-mines-vietnam-era-warning-sign-red-enamel-metal-tell-the-world-u-mines-32469
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--844619
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9438300
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9438146

I'm also on default trust, but I don't personally reserve feedback for business transactions. You were made aware of this yesterday lol

That being said, I don't hand out feedback frivolously.  I don't believe TECSHARE does, either.

The trust system is just a way to publicly announce who you personally trust or distrust and why.  I'm sure TECSHARE is well aware that if he were to frivolously provide negative feedback to a whole bunch of people it would kill his reputation.  Accordingly, I perceive this as an anamoly.

Well it appears that the OP has actually deleted his posts on your thread but your negative feedback remains on his profile.

From the looks of it though the OP was making valid points about your price. Gift cards are never going to trade at above face value (if they are available for $0.95 on the dollar from the store they are redeemable from and you are selling them at $1.00 on the dollar then you are selling at above the cost to buy it). I would consider what the OP was doing on your thread to be pointing out that you were offering a bad deal. It is common and expected for the community to point out these kinds of deals

From the looks of what is still on your thread, it appears that you take criticism (constructive or not) very poorly. This probably escalated the situation by causing him to want to continue to argue.

EDIT: it would appear to me that you are holding his reputation hostage until he deletes his comments about you offering a bad deal to someone that might trade with you.

I think the amount of times you have left negative feedback for people for a hunch or personal reasons can't be counted on both hands and feet. He was directly attacking my ability to trade here for no other reason than to troll. That's not personal, that's business.

Until now...

Should never leave negative feedback for personal reasons, esp if you are on the default trust list.

I got drunk one night and left negative feedback for someone based on a personal reason.  The next day the community ripped me a new one before I apologized and removed it.  I have no idea why the same thing is not happening here.

acknowledged

Hahahahahaha I was right, your a Dick (even trying to speak all lawyer like) ROFL!

Seems you've run out of leverage "DickArmis"!

No thanks. I am fine to let things sit as they be. Let me know what you decide.

Make it simple, you remove content that you shared (truth lie or otherwise) regarding me, I remove all content I shared about you, such that no reference is made about either party from the other party.  

When it is finally agreed that all other items have been deleted, this thread will also be deleted.   If you agree I will erase the posts that you have highlighted.

This ^ , as I understand it the only thing that made my feedback invalid was the value attached to it. I corrected it to a zero value, therefore the reason for me leaving the feedback is irrelevant because it is valid. I did not understand this important distinction when I left it, and I have corrected it.

If you want me to remove my now valid feedback you will have to have a discussion with me and no one else. I am satisfied to let you harass me all you like now, or you can remove your posts in my OPs and never come back and I will consider removing the feedback. Feel free to PM me, or just make more drama like you do best.

Bottom line, if you can't trust someone like TECSHARE, who has conducted himself impeccably, and who has arguably been *the* poster child for successful and professional trading within this community, who the heck can you trust?  I think some of the responses from some of the mods here, though valid with regards to leaving false feedback, gloss over the fact that TECSHARE has done this forum a world of good over the past few years, legitimizing crypto trading and raising the bar for quality salesmanship and integrity.  If I were him, I would adamantly defend myself, too.  TECSHARE's history speaks for itself.  So he blew up once, big deal. It sounds like he was provoked while doing what he does best -- selling.  Give the dude a break.  

I think with the 1BTC now removed his feedback is valid and this thread is done.

I'm specifically inviting you to tell the truth, the full truth as you see it.

I want to pinpoint when it was that you first felt "harassed".
I want to know when it was that you first filed a report with the mods, provide a copy of the complaint if you wish?
I think when we see the particulars it will show that your "harassment" claims are not only inflated, but within the rules of the site.

The minions that support your position are doing so in a way that is far more inflammatory than anything that occurred in our actual exchanges.
I think when you give the specifics of what you cried to the mods about, and we match them against what your supporters here are saying,
the startling contrast that will make your claims look woosy.  

I didn't come here seeking a fan club, don't need one.   I came here to point out a critical flaw in a TRUST system that you exploited.

Your actions highlighted how someone can uses the Trust system as a weapon,
your actions highlighted how someone with a history of excellence could fall of his rocker, and in a fit of rage act irresponsibly,
and
your actions highlighted how someone's tenure can provide a false sense of entitlement.


What you did was wrong for a 'newbie member', wrong for a 'jr member', wrong for a 'full member', wrong for a 'Sr. member'  ...
and wrong for a 'Legionary member' too.

I'm guessing this is not the first time you have done this, how many time have you lied in the TRUST report?
How many times have you issued negative feedback in the absence of a connecting deal?
How many times have you used the TRUST system as a weapon?







 

This thread is ridiculous...don't but in and cause drama in threads for no reason. TECSHARE is legit and rather than making a dumb thread like this, you should PM him and try to work it out. Admins will not intervene over trust feedback...suck it up and either try to work it out or just drop it.

You didn't answer my question. If you are refusing to communicate with me I don't think you will resolve this. Dictating to me what you want me to say is not communication BTW.

note: After consulting with moderators, I have decided that the application of the 1 Bitcoin value to the negative was not appropriate. So I have replaced it with a zero Bitcoin negative commensurate with the intent of the feedback system.

looked up the threads. 

ARMIS is a little bitch. 

Good luck to TECSHARE. 
It's difficult to keep such a great rep then have your threads trolled by someone you never did business with.