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Topic: Tecshare Maliciously Abused The BitcoinTalk Trust System - page 5. (Read 7523 times)

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OP do you think you could control your OCD enough to delete your posts in all my marketplace threads and never come back to them? If not I don't think we have a whole lot to discuss. All I want is to continue trading equitably minding my own business like I have been for 3 years WITHOUT being harassed.


I think it would be extremely informative if you delineated the events as you saw them.

Detail the events and show the board when it was that you first cried to me or anyone in the thread that you were being "harassed"?
Did you delete any of your posts in the subjected thread?  If not, then it becomes clear that whatever actions I took were not of a "permanent" nature?
Did you you bear false witness when you claimed to do a transaction with me for 1BTC?
Given your history, you knew or should have known that your false feedback coupled with the false 1BTC would aggravate the offensive action.

Funny that you claim OCD and 'follow me' me behavior, because you are clearly forgetting that it was you that initiated the 'follow me' behavior,
When you posted the following message to my listing: "UPDATE - this works both ways   $0.03 raised, you'll have your digital chess game in every library in the nation before you know it!"    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=842689.msg9408371#msg9408371

Now lets examine those 'OTHER', 'OCD', 'follow me', comments that I issued, if you look at the chronology you will find that they didn't start immediately after
you expanded to my thread.  In fact they started only after I was told that 'feedback is not moderated'.  

Plain and simple, you lied in a Trust system, I didn't.   According to the rules of the site, I have a right to travel to threads and share my 'on topic' opinion.  You afforded yourself the same opportunities but for whatever reason you wanted to do harm over and above that which is site permitted and reasonable.

Tell your story from the very beginning and be thorough so that everyone could see the degree of "harassment" you endured that resulted in
your blatant violation of the TRUST system of this site.  Show us your mind set as events occurred, let us see when it what that you first
contacted mods so that we could cooperatively determine if your claim(s) were true, justified, or responsible.  



As of this message this issues has graduated to a formal complaint to Bitcointalk
full member
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P.S
I still think the OP is a dick! LOL
full member
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Wow that took a turn! Seems the fact the OP kicked this off with a wrong deed has now been lost. Mods should lock this thread and move on. I hear the new forum software is pretty special so hopefully it has mechanisms to protect both sides of the street. Opposed to the current model that allows spiteful trolls to throw mud without consequence!!!

My 2 cents!
legendary
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OP do you think you could control your OCD enough to delete your posts in all my marketplace threads and never come back to them? If not I don't think we have a whole lot to discuss. All I want is to continue trading equitably minding my own business like I have been for 3 years WITHOUT being harassed.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. ignored.

I get the quick ignore and no bogus red like you freely handed out earlier?  Grin
you aren't following me around like a puppy with OCD.

Ooops! Did you forget where the Ignore was?
No, but like the OP you seem to have forgotten where your life was.

At least I can find and use the Ignore feature when I claim I will.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. ignored.

I get the quick ignore and no bogus red like you freely handed out earlier?  Grin
you aren't following me around like a puppy with OCD.

Ooops! Did you forget where the Ignore was?
No, but like the OP you seem to have forgotten where your life was.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. ignored.

I get the quick ignore and no bogus red like you freely handed out earlier?  Grin
you aren't following me around like a puppy with OCD.

Ooops! Did you forget where the Ignore was?


Ooops again!
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. ignored.

I get the quick ignore and no bogus red like you freely handed out earlier?  Grin
you aren't following me around like a puppy with OCD.

Ooops! Did you forget where the Ignore was?
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. ignored.

I get the quick ignore and no bogus red like you freely handed out earlier?  Grin
you aren't following me around like a puppy with OCD.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. ignored.

I get the quick ignore and no bogus red like you freely handed out earlier?  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Ok, clearly you are here to feed on drama. Ignored. Its always easy to do "the right thing" when someone else pays the price.

example of an action I have taken to preserve reliability of trust, demonstrating my respect for it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809084.0;all
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.

MY hypocrisy? In the few minutes it took you to reply to me, are you claiming you found the account I used, read all the feedback I left AND verified it was bogus? Really? You really should stop digging and work out a solution.
What the fuck are you talking about? You admitted you do this, I didn't accuse you of anything.

No?  
At least I can handle drama without leaving bogus feedback.

He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.

Exactly.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You're on the Default Trust list. Your feedback carries more weight than most. I've eaten a lot of crap for the same reason and decided to use an alt. account with no Trust to leave feedback in cases such as these. Maybe the new forum will have a orange warning option for this very reason. Hopefully this can easily be worked out soon.
Just my .002 BTC
I got on the default trust list by doing hundreds of trades over a period of years without incident. I was not just picked out of a hat. I don't leave negative trust flippantly. I don't see how you using alts to abuse the trust system is some how not as bad as my supposed abuse. People put their trust in me because I don't rip people off and I worked hard to make sure everyone I deal with is satisfied. This guy is completely unreasonable and the moderators refuse to assist me.
I don't mind using all the hard work I have put in here to tell everyone else about this guy and his habits of harassment, and that is the point of the trust system, to let people leave feedback freely without coercion. If I was negging everyone who posted in my threads it would be different, but im not. I negged a person who is purposely trying to effect my trading by harassing me in my threads when I have never dealt with them before, and he never intended to deal with me either.
Is there another recourse that would provide any results, or is your suggestion simply to deal with the negative effects of this clearly aimlessly obsessive individual who likely wont give up for a very long time?
You automatically call mine false feedback and equivocating this with your feedback? Interesting language. I use an alt. when the offense IMO does NOT warrant turning someone's account red but rather serve as a warning to others.
Your feedback left in this case was not warranted nor was the fake risked amount of 1 BTC. If you feel you are harassed, do as suggested and make self moderated threads. When all else fails and your temper gets the best of you, add the offending person to your ignore list.
 I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your criticism. I am supposed to close years old threads with thousands of hits and dozens of feed-backs created before self moderation, and start over again because of one troll? I might also add here that I did create a self moderated thread for the original point of contact, but he also showed up in my other threads. Its funny how quick people are to defend perpetrators here over trusted members trading equitably here for years.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever

MY hypocrisy? In the few minutes it took you to reply to me, are you claiming you found the account I used, read all the feedback I left AND verified it was bogus? Really? You really should stop digging and work out a solution.
What the fuck are you talking about? You admitted you do this, I didn't accuse you of anything except doing exactly what you are criticizing me for. You seem like you are just here to look for some drama.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.

Exactly.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You're on the Default Trust list. Your feedback carries more weight than most. I've eaten a lot of crap for the same reason and decided to use an alt. account with no Trust to leave feedback in cases such as these. Maybe the new forum will have a orange warning option for this very reason. Hopefully this can easily be worked out soon.
Just my .002 BTC
I got on the default trust list by doing hundreds of trades over a period of years without incident. I was not just picked out of a hat. I don't leave negative trust flippantly. I don't see how you using alts to abuse the trust system is some how not as bad as my supposed abuse. People put their trust in me because I don't rip people off and I worked hard to make sure everyone I deal with is satisfied. This guy is completely unreasonable and the moderators refuse to assist me.
I don't mind using all the hard work I have put in here to tell everyone else about this guy and his habits of harassment, and that is the point of the trust system, to let people leave feedback freely without coercion. If I was negging everyone who posted in my threads it would be different, but im not. I negged a person who is purposely trying to effect my trading by harassing me in my threads when I have never dealt with them before, and he never intended to deal with me either.
Is there another recourse that would provide any results, or is your suggestion simply to deal with the negative effects of this clearly aimlessly obsessive individual who likely wont give up for a very long time?
You automatically call mine false feedback and equivocating this with your feedback? Interesting language. I use an alt. when the offense IMO does NOT warrant turning someone's account red but rather serve as a warning to others.
Your feedback left in this case was not warranted nor was the fake risked amount of 1 BTC. If you feel you are harassed, do as suggested and make self moderated threads. When all else fails and your temper gets the best of you, add the offending person to your ignore list.
  I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your criticism. I am supposed to close years old threads with thousands of hits and dozens of feed-backs created before self moderation, and start over again because of one troll?

MY hypocrisy? In the few minutes it took you to reply to me, are you claiming you found the account I used, read all the feedback I left AND verified it was bogus? Really? You really should stop digging and work out a solution.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.

Exactly.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You're on the Default Trust list. Your feedback carries more weight than most. I've eaten a lot of crap for the same reason and decided to use an alt. account with no Trust to leave feedback in cases such as these. Maybe the new forum will have a orange warning option for this very reason. Hopefully this can easily be worked out soon.
Just my .002 BTC
I got on the default trust list by doing hundreds of trades over a period of years without incident. I was not just picked out of a hat. I don't leave negative trust flippantly. I don't see how you using alts to abuse the trust system is some how not as bad as my supposed abuse. People put their trust in me because I don't rip people off and I worked hard to make sure everyone I deal with is satisfied. This guy is completely unreasonable and the moderators refuse to assist me.
I don't mind using all the hard work I have put in here to tell everyone else about this guy and his habits of harassment, and that is the point of the trust system, to let people leave feedback freely without coercion. If I was negging everyone who posted in my threads it would be different, but im not. I negged a person who is purposely trying to effect my trading by harassing me in my threads when I have never dealt with them before, and he never intended to deal with me either.
Is there another recourse that would provide any results, or is your suggestion simply to deal with the negative effects of this clearly aimlessly obsessive individual who likely wont give up for a very long time?
You automatically call mine false feedback and equivocating this with your feedback? Interesting language. I use an alt. when the offense IMO does NOT warrant turning someone's account red but rather serve as a warning to others.
Your feedback left in this case was not warranted nor was the fake risked amount of 1 BTC. If you feel you are harassed, do as suggested and make self moderated threads. When all else fails and your temper gets the best of you, add the offending person to your ignore list.
 I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your criticism. I am supposed to close years old threads with thousands of hits and dozens of feed-backs created before self moderation, and start over again because of one troll? I might also add here that I did create a self moderated thread for the original point of contact, but he also showed up in my other threads. Its funny how quick people are to defend perpetrators here over trusted members trading equitably here for years.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.

Exactly.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You're on the Default Trust list. Your feedback carries more weight than most. I've eaten a lot of crap for the same reason and decided to use an alt. account with no Trust to leave feedback in cases such as these. Maybe the new forum will have a orange warning option for this very reason. Hopefully this can easily be worked out soon.
Just my .002 BTC
I got on the default trust list by doing hundreds of trades over a period of years without incident. I was not just picked out of a hat. I don't leave negative trust flippantly. I don't see how you using alts to abuse the trust system is some how not as bad as my supposed abuse. People put their trust in me because I don't rip people off and I worked hard to make sure everyone I deal with is satisfied. This guy is completely unreasonable and the moderators refuse to assist me.
I don't mind using all the hard work I have put in here to tell everyone else about this guy and his habits of harassment, and that is the point of the trust system, to let people leave feedback freely without coercion. If I was negging everyone who posted in my threads it would be different, but im not. I negged a person who is purposely trying to effect my trading by harassing me in my threads when I have never dealt with them before, and he never intended to deal with me either.
Is there another recourse that would provide any results, or is your suggestion simply to deal with the negative effects of this clearly aimlessly obsessive individual who likely wont give up for a very long time?
You automatically call mine false feedback and equivocating this with your feedback? Interesting language. I use an alt. when the offense IMO does NOT warrant turning someone's account red but rather serve as a warning to others.
Your feedback left in this case was not warranted nor was the fake risked amount of 1 BTC. If you feel you are harassed, do as suggested and make self moderated threads. When all else fails and your temper gets the best of you, add the offending person to your ignore list.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You guys are always quick to point fingers but you don't care to lift that finger until it becomes a bigger issue. I guess the moderators are too busy pruning my 2 year old threads for bumps I forgot to delete to help here. Or maybe his off topic spamming of my threads is "free speech" and you don't want to censor him. In the end I have to deal with it and it costs moderators nothing to totally ignore my requests for a reasonable solution.

Reasonable solution, self moderated thread, not this.

Fake negative feedback is petty and childish, and not becoming of someone in default trust. You can try and blame us or whatever, but your actions are your own, nobody else's.


I am not blaming you, I am pointing out you are blaming me while also ignoring my previous requests for a more civil solution. I am supposed to close years old threads with thousands of hits and dozens of feed-backs created before self moderation, and start over again because of one troll? Also you have read this guys posts and I am the childish one? I wouldn't want to deal with this guy ever, and I am sure others feel the same way.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.

Exactly.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You're on the Default Trust list. Your feedback carries more weight than most. I've eaten a lot of crap for the same reason and decided to use an alt. account with no Trust to leave feedback in cases such as these. Maybe the new forum will have a orange warning option for this very reason. Hopefully this can easily be worked out soon.
Just my .002 BTC
I got on the default trust list by doing hundreds of trades over a period of years without incident. I was not just picked out of a hat. I don't leave negative trust flippantly. I don't see how you using alts to abuse the trust system is some how not as bad as my supposed abuse. People put their trust in me because I don't rip people off and I worked hard to make sure everyone I deal with is satisfied. This guy is completely unreasonable and the moderators refuse to assist me.
I don't mind using all the hard work I have put in here to tell everyone else about this guy and his habits of harassment, and that is the point of the trust system, to let people leave feedback freely without coercion. If I was negging everyone who posted in my threads it would be different, but im not. I negged a person who is purposely trying to effect my trading by harassing me in my threads when I have never dealt with them before, and he never intended to deal with me either.
Is there another recourse that would provide any results, or is your suggestion simply to deal with the negative effects of this clearly aimlessly obsessive individual who likely wont give up for a very long time?

a sample of his obsession:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9438300
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/land-mines-vietnam-era-warning-sign-red-enamel-metal-tell-the-world-u-mines-32469
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9438146
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--844619

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1128
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You guys are always quick to point fingers but you don't care to lift that finger until it becomes a bigger issue. I guess the moderators are too busy pruning my 2 year old threads for bumps I forgot to delete to help here. Or maybe his off topic spamming of my threads is "free speech" and you don't want to censor him. In the end I have to deal with it and it costs moderators nothing to totally ignore my requests for a reasonable solution.

Reasonable solution, self moderated thread, not this.

Fake negative feedback is petty and childish, and not becoming of someone in default trust. You can try and blame us or whatever, but your actions are your own, nobody else's.

KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.

Exactly.
He might be a dick, but that's no reason to leave false negative feedback, especially when you're in the default trust network.
I reported the posts and asked for assistance from the moderators. They were ignored. Some how his abuse is ok though. I am not sure why I should tolerate harassment.

You're on the Default Trust list. Your feedback carries more weight than most. I've eaten a lot of crap for the same reason and decided to use an alt. account with no Trust to leave feedback in cases such as these. Maybe the new forum will have a orange warning option for this very reason. Hopefully this can easily be worked out soon.
Just my .002 BTC
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