Topic: Teen coaxed friend to commit suicide, then tweeted how much she missed him (Read 3937 times)

Anyone who encourages someone to kill themselves either has never been so depressed that it feels like that's the only option, or has blatant disregard for life. It is very right that this girl ends up in prison, because using anyone's life as a platform for your social-status  regardless of the outcome is weak.

When this young man is literally putting his life in your hands and is clearly unstable emotionally... You are at fault and you are acting maliciously if your response ever goes outside the boundaries of "What is the extent of which I can assist this person through this?".

Once you encourage the worst case scenario, and blatantly make yourself the face of the tragedy.. Do not pass go, Go directly to jail

I still cant understand why are people so dumb enough to comit suicide for a stupid girl, i mean do these guys have nuts in their sacks?

It is just horrible how pussies guys have become. They really need to stop being so submissive.

Because when you have a girl trying to be that close to you your brain stops working properly if you don't have any experience of being with a manipulative woman, I really feel sorry for the guy, if he had realised sooner she was just playing with him he'd still be alive.

Psychopath and a stupid. "Perfect" combination. I feel sorry for both of them especially the man. Why didn't he realize that his girlfriend is a kind of psychopath by coaxing him like that and he shouldn't have killed himself.

I think she's cute, in a Deliverance "sure do have a perrty mouth" kind of way.

Oh, sorry, trigger warning. That might be a macroaggression.

Actually looking at this news again.

She is pretty ugly, I cant see anybody why would be so stupid to kill himself for her.

Damn some guys really need to get their balls back, and stop being so big pussies in front of girls. Show them what a real man looks like!

Massachusetts teen charged with encouraging her boyfriend to commit suicide





Prosecutors have charged a Massachusetts teen with involuntary manslaughter after text messages to her boyfriend appeared to show her urging him to commit suicide.

Conrad Roy III parked his truck outside a Fairhaven Kmart last year and killed himself by carbon monoxide poisoning. Prosecutors say Michelle Carter, his girlfriend at the time, assisted him by urging him to overcome his doubts about taking his own life, pressuring him to do it and even telling him to get back in his truck after becoming frightened that the plan was working.

"You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don't get why you aren't," Carter allegedly wrote to Roy on the day he died. Carter’s lawyer has denied that she pushed him to kill himself and has asked the judge to dismiss the case.

In their written response, prosecutors included text exchanges between Carter and Roy that they say support their claim that Carter caused her boyfriend's death by "wantonly and recklessly" helping him poison himself.

Roy, 18, had a history of depression and had previously attempted suicide two years earlier, taking an overdose of the painkiller acetaminophen.

"You can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did the last time and not think about it and just do it, babe," Carter texted him.

Joseph Cataldo, Carter’s lawyer, said her texts amount to speech protected by the First Amendment. He said it’s clear from the exchanges that Roy had made up his mind to take his own life and Carter, now 18, didn’t cause his death.

"He got the generator, he devised the plan and he had to go find a spot. He parked, he had to get the gas for the generator, he had to turn the generator on, he had to sit in that car for a long period of time. He caused his own death," Cataldo said.

"He had thought this out. He wanted to take his own life. It's sad, but it's not manslaughter."

Roy spent most of his time in a psychiatric hospital following his earlier suicide attempt. In the weeks prior to his death, he was gearing up to graduate from high school and receive his sea captain’s license, said his aunt, Becki Maki.

"He did not have the signs of someone who was considering that," Maki said.

Carter and Roy had met two years earlier while both were visiting relatives in Florida. They kept in touch through text message and email upon returning to Massachusetts. The two lived about 50 miles apart and hadn’t seen each other for about a year before Roy died.

Roy used a gasoline-operated water pump to poison himself with carbon monoxide.

While discussing the plan, Carter appears to taunt Roy. "But I bet you're gonna be like 'oh, it didn't work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like that," she wrote. "I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that ... you seem to always have an excuse."

Cataldo said Carter had tried to repeatedly talk Roy out of killing himself and only decided to support his plan after it became clear Roy wasn’t going back. After about a month before his suicide, she suggested that he seek treatment at a psychiatric hospital where she was receiving treatment for an undisclosed condition. Roy refused and later suggested that they both kill themselves, like Romeo and Juliet, Cataldo said.

In a text exchange on July 7, 2014, six days before he was found dead, Carter advised Roy to seek help.

"Well it's too late I already gave up," Roy responded.

Some legal experts say it may have been a reach for prosecutors to charge Carter with manslaughter. Massachusetts does not have a law against assisted suicide.

"Causation is going to be a vital part of this case," said Daniel Medwed, a Northeastern University law professor. "Can the prosecution prove that she caused him to kill himself in this way? Would he have done it anyway?"

Prosecutors point to a text Carter sent to a friend after Roy's death.

"...his death is my fault like honestly I could have stopped him I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car because it was working and he got scared and I (expletive) told him to get back in ... because I knew he would do it all over again the next day and I couldn't have him live the way he was living anymore I couldn't do it I wouldn't let him," Carter wrote.

Roy's grandfather, also named Conrad, said his grandson seemed happy in the days before he died.

"He was coming out of his depression," Roy said. "We saw the light at the end of the tunnel, and she just blew that tunnel up. She shut the light off."



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/09/massachusetts-teen-charged-with-encouraging-her-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide/

of course you cant cure a psychological disorder just like that, but it is possible to treat it. if the disorder is managed to a certain extent, assimilation into normal society is very possible. just a few links i searched up:
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2013/12/sociopath-treatment.html
http://www.wisegeek.org/how-is-sociopathy-treated.htm

While this sounds good in theory, there is no way to cure a sociopath, and as far as I know therapy and stuff like that makes them even more dangerous.

This doesn't make sense? What's the joke? The logic is the exact opposite...so it wouldn't be pro tip!

i dont blame the guy at all, suicidal people dont think the same way a person in a normal state would think. maybe he thought this sociopath was the only outlet  he had left.
as far as weather or not her actions were legal or not, assisting people with suicide has legal restrictions iirc, and is only legal under certain circumstances. not only did she tell him to just go kill himself, she actively coaxed him to continue with the act. she definitely belongs in jail until a therapist deems her able to integrate back into normal society.

There have always been sociopaths in the world but in the past it was easier to avoid them, now young people are so into social networks and stuff like that for a generation of young men and women it seems impossible to just turn off that d*mn mobile phone. And since they don’t do it, the bullies and abusers have access 24/7 to you, in your house, work, and every place you go, thanks to the mobile phone.

She's definitively a sociopath and evil manipulative bitch, but I'm on the fence on whether she should go to jail as abhorrent as her actions were. The dude was an idiot for even staying in communication with her but as far as I'm aware telling someone to go kill themselves isn't against the law. He should've ignored it and moved on.

Narcissists are not always sociopaths, but i agree that 95% of teen girls are narcissists, probably because all this social media and the craving for fame and attention.

Its disgusting how women became so bad with all this celebrity culture and egomania. Women were always attention seekers, but now with all this "social media crap" and this "party culture", this problem became abominational.

Not to mention with a little bit of extra ingredients called feminism, I just think the west is doomed.


No wonder the birthrate in the west is so low, who wants to make a family with these disgusting whores?

i really dont see much hope for improvement on this girl, especially if she is both narcissistic and a sociopath; a narcissist will always be justified in their actions in their own heads, and you cant get them to relate to how other people they feel either. ive got a feeling whatever therapist picks up this girl's case isnt going to make much progress into getting her to integrate into normal society.

Guys really need to man up and see how women are really are, that girl was just a narcissistic egomaniac with no feelings.

I know some nice girls that are kind and helpful, but there are these sluts who just fuck around and want to steal your money and life power.

Just ignore these vampires, and let them starve without attention, narcissists will starve without attenton, so let them.

Well now all the information has come out, she definitely belongs in jail for being a crazy and manipulative sociopath.

After his death, Carter became a self-proclaimed advocate for mental health.

She organized a fundraising tournament in Roy’s memory and posted on Facebook and Twitter about her attempts to save her boyfriend’s life.

“Even though I could not save my boyfriend’s life, I want to put myself out here to try to save as many other lives as possible,” she wrote on Facebook.



-------------------------------------
She needs to go and get help while securely away from society.

likely not, imo her motive in pressuring her friend to kill himself was to bask in the attention that would follow as a result of her friendship with him; an attention whore.
she clearly has some psychological problems (sociopath? correct me if I'm wrong), possibly multiple. she clearly values some temporary attention more than a human life though, and people like that can't be part of a normal society.