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legendary
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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "
I've red about this online.
I feel bad about the guy but girl needs help to.
Because if no helps her she'll do it again maybe this time she'll do the  killing.
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This story just makes me sick. Truly sociopathic behavior.

The worst she will get is manslaughter, when it really should be murder.


‘It’s now or never': Texts reveal teen’s efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide






Michelle Carter knew that if anyone found her text messages to her boyfriend Conrad Roy III, she might go to jail.

“[If the police] read my messages with him I’m done. His family will hate me and I can go to jail,” Carter texted a friend after her 18-year-old boyfriend used a gas-powered water pump to commit suicide in the parking lot of a KMart.

Carter had asked Roy in a text message to delete her messages before he carried out the suicide last summer, but investigators found them anyway.

According to prosecutors, Carter pressured her boyfriend to go through with suicide for almost a week before he carried out the act. She counseled him to overcome his fears; researched methods of committing suicide painlessly; and lied to police, his family and her friends about his whereabouts during the act itself and after, prosecutors said.

Carter, who was 17 at the time of Roy’s death, now faces manslaughter charges in juvenile court in Massachusetts.

Her attorney argues, however, that the charges should be dropped because Carter’s messages are protected by free speech. According to attorney Joseph P. Cataldo, Carter was “brainwashed” into supporting Roy’s plan for suicide.

“He ultimately persuaded a young, impressionable girl,” Caldato told reporters, according to South Coast Today. “Eventually he gets her to endorse his plan.”

But in an indictment released Friday, prosecutors outlined in nauseating detail the extent of Carter’s alleged role in helping Roy overcome his doubts about suicide.

For more than a week in July 2014, Carter and Roy exchanged hundreds of messages in which Carter insisted that Roy would be better off dead.

“You’re finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain,” she told him in one message. “It’s okay to be scared and it’s normal. I mean, you’re about to die.”

According to prosecutors, the two had struck up a romantic relationship — mostly online — in 2012. Her lawyer says they had only met a few times in person over the course of two years prior to Roy’s death.

Roy had a history of depression and had attempted suicide in the past, but his family was hopeful that he would get through it.

“He seemed to be pulling out of it,” his grandmother Janice Roy told WBZ.

[How to talk to your teen about depression, suicide]

Text messages recovered by police, however, suggest that by 2014, Carter had gotten tired of Roy’s idle talk of suicide and she wanted him to go through with it  — now.

“You always say you’re gonna do it, but you never do,” Carter complained. “I just want to make sure tonight is the real thing.”

Another time, she texted: “You can’t keep pushing it off, though. That’s all you keep doing.”

Carter was insistent, even when Roy steered the topic to other things:

ROY: How was your day?

CARTER: When are you doing it?

Roy said he was having a good day, but Carter wasn’t satisfied.

CARTER: Really?

ROY: Yes.

CARTER: That’s great. What did you do?

ROY: Ended up going to work for a little bit and then just looked stuff up.

CARTER: When are you gonna do it? Stop ignoring the question???

Roy had doubts, and he was scared, according to his texts. What if it didn’t work and he ended up injured for the rest of his life? How would his family cope with the loss?

Carter had answers.

He would be her guardian angel in heaven.

She would comfort his family and they would move on.

If he followed the directions he had found online for killing himself with carbon monoxide, it would “100 percent work,” she said.

“There isn’t anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself,” she told him.

But committing suicide would require tools. Roy thought about using a tube to channel the exhaust from his truck’s tailpipe into the vehicle but realized that the diesel engine emitted lower levels of carbon monoxide that might make failure more likely.

Carter was confident that it would work and told him why.

“If you emit 3200 ppm of it for five or ten minutes, you will die within a half hour,” she told him. “You lose consciousness with no pain. You just fall asleep and die.”

But Carter didn’t love that idea, either, because she feared that Roy would make up an “excuse” to explain why it didn’t work.

“I bet you’re gonna be like ‘oh, it didn’t work because I didn’t tape the tube right or something like that,'” she texted him “You always seem to have an excuse.”

When Roy decided to use a generator instead, Carter was impatient.

“Do you have the generator?” she asked him.

“Not yet LOL,” he replied.

“WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT?” she wrote.

Eventually, Roy did find a generator — his father’s — but it was broken. Carter told him to take it to Sears for repairs.

And if Roy couldn’t find a way to use carbon monoxide, Carter suggested alternatives: “I’d try the bag or hanging,” she told him. “Hanging is painless and take like a second if you do it right.”

The day of Roy’s death — July 12, 2014 — he and Carter exchanged texts in the early morning hours.

“You can’t think about it. You just have to do it,” Carter said, telling him she didn’t understand why he was hesitating.

“I’m gonna eventually,” he replied. “I really don’t know what I’m waiting for but I have everything lined up.”

She suggested that he take Benadryl to fall asleep and allow the fumes to work.

She worried that he wouldn’t go through with it because the sun would soon be coming up.

She suggested that he go to an empty parking lot.

They texted throughout the day about the plans, about Roy’s doubts, and about Carter’s insistence that “the time is right” and that he was ready.

At the same time, Carter appeared to be preparing her friends and Roy’s relatives for his eventual death. Days before his suicide, Carter texted a friend named Samantha and claimed that Roy was missing — though she was communicating with him at exactly the same time about how to fix his father’s broken generator.

The day before his death, she told her friend: “I’m thankful that our last words were I love you.”

At some point on the night of July 12, Roy went through with the suicide, using a gas-powered water pump. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning inside the cab of his pickup truck.

While he was in the truck with the pump running, he was on the phone texting and talking with Carter, she told her friend.

“Like, honestly I could have stopped it,” Carter texted Samantha months later. “I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car” because the carbon monoxide was working, she said. She added that she “told him to get back in.”

Roy’s body was found by police on the morning of July 13.

A judge will now decide whether Carter will face charges in his death. She will appear in court again on Oct. 2.

After his death, Carter became a self-proclaimed advocate for mental health.

She organized a fundraising tournament in Roy’s memory and posted on Facebook and Twitter about her attempts to save her boyfriend’s life.

“Even though I could not save my boyfriend’s life, I want to put myself out here to try to save as many other lives as possible,” she wrote on Facebook.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/31/its-now-or-never-texts-reveal-teens-efforts-to-pressure-boyfriend-into-suicide/


legendary
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This story just makes me sick. Truly sociopathic behavior.

The worst she will get is manslaughter, when it really should be murder.
hero member
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WTF?! That's a thing now?! No wonder I suck at being my age group, most people my age or younger are lunatics! O_O
Sure you can find a lot of this crap in the web.
The Auschwitz girl:
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/5683/z5683283M.jpg

Funeral selfies:
http://www.cash4humor.com/gallery/15-funeral-selfies-that-really-inappropriate/796
Welcome to the robotic industry world. The techonology has fubar'd the new generation..
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WTF?! That's a thing now?! No wonder I suck at being my age group, most people my age or younger are lunatics! O_O
Sure you can find a lot of this crap in the web.
The Auschwitz girl:
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/5683/z5683283M.jpg

Funeral selfies:
http://www.cash4humor.com/gallery/15-funeral-selfies-that-really-inappropriate/796
legendary
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There's a lot of people I wish would kill themselves, wish I had the power to make it happen.
legendary
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Its time we create meninism, opposite for feminism to support our fellow bro dudes around the world.
This is kind of already happening, and "feminists" are lashing out at these groups with everything they have, including violence, bomb threats, and accusing these groups of being "terrorist" organizations. These groups are most commonly known by the "Men's Rights Movement (MRM or MR)" and "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)". Try a search for either of these phrases on youtube and you will find endless hours of related content.


Or women and men could just unite on the fucking issue and stop trying to take sides, you know, by treating each other equally in the courts and in society.

You are on a side whether you like it or not by default. Unfortunately the "feminist" movement has been morphing into a female supremacy movement with political Marxist tendencies that is no longer interested in equality. I am pro-equality, and pro-anyone who wants equality, however if there is an organized movement to subjugate men, well I don't see any reason to sit by silently and tolerate my entire gender being turned into some kind of lower caste section of society free to be abused. The gender polar opposite of abuse is not righting a wrong, it is just more abuse under new management.
legendary
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Its time we create meninism, opposite for feminism to support our fellow bro dudes around the world.

Or women and men could just unite on the fucking issue and stop trying to take sides, you know, by treating each other equally in the courts and in society.
legendary
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Its time we create meninism, opposite for feminism to support our fellow bro dudes around the world.
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A pity that such things aren't punishable.
legendary
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Woha what is she is that is sick and only one sentence for someone like that and that is life, so twisted and evil i just do not understand how some people can be so wrong in the head  Huh Roll Eyes
Its called sociopathy (complete lack of empathy).  It is primarily genetic but can also be learned. You can't understand it because you are not mentally ill. This is how these types of people thrive, everyone would like to believe that people could never be this twisted, but unfortunately according to studies up to 20% of the population are sociopaths to varying degrees.

The world is becoming a very sick place, and people like her are the result as well as the cause. There is no reform for sociopaths like this. Unfortunately society seems to give women more of a pass on this kind of behavior because no one wants to examine the implications of our society's mothers (who should be nurturers) as potentially being predators. It is almost too horrible to examine from this perspective, therefore almost no one does.
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Woha what is she is that is sick and only one sentence for someone like that and that is life, so twisted and evil i just do not understand how some people can be so wrong in the head  Huh Roll Eyes
legendary
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WTF?! That's a thing now?! No wonder I suck at being my age group, most people my age or younger are lunatics! O_O
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Nowadays things like death funerals and mourning are becoming something fashionable comparable to normal everyday things like going to a party or shopping.
A couple years ago I read about a teenager, who crawled into a cremation furnace in Auschwitz to get a good picture she later posted on facebook. Funeral selfies are also becoming popular not to mention girls comparing their funeral dresses... wtf is wrong with these people.
legendary
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That's why stay away from social media whores  Smiley

lol yes, you get it Tongue sadly the UK in particular is filled with women like this so I know a lot about it.
legendary
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Wow, relationship gone wrong? What could drive a women to do such a thing? Psycopath for sure, but even them usually don't do stuff like that during high school age unelss there's really fucked up family conditions (I know a guy who had to beat someone with a baseball bat til he almost died at 10 years of age because hes father forced him to). This women if guilty should be executed, she will just keep killing. No turning those people normal...
I'd like to see the evidence, was there someone with her? Maybe a he owed drug money?

Read the article, it describes her detailing her responsibility for his death before it happened to friends along with several encouragements for him to follow thru with the act as well as her taking advantage of the situation for personal gain after the fact.
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Wow, relationship gone wrong? What could drive a women to do such a thing? Psycopath for sure, but even them usually don't do stuff like that during high school age unelss there's really fucked up family conditions (I know a guy who had to beat someone with a baseball bat til he almost died at 10 years of age because hes father forced him to). This women if guilty should be executed, she will just keep killing. No turning those people normal...
I'd like to see the evidence, was there someone with her? Maybe a he owed drug money?
legendary
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I'm just telling you what is actually going on, yes it is a shitty thing to do to a person, the people involved in such things are scum, the fact is though they haven't tried to physically harm them even if they may have tried coercing them into doing it, the problem is if she's prosecuted it will set another precedent where people can't take responsbility for their own actions and therefore somebody else or something else is to blame. I don't bullshit people, I'm not going to coddle you and tell you she's a monster and a horrible person and should be thrown into jail for what she did, she's certainly a horrible person, but unfortunately if we jail people for that we're all going to be put in at one point or another.

That's just the reality of the world we live in and why we have to limit ourselves from becoming a mob that randomly lynches people we don't like.

I agree with you to a degree. I don't think we need new or existing cyberbullying legislation, but I do however believe that existing well established laws on the books cover what she did as I previously stated, such as harassment, stalking, abuse of the disabled, and potentially manslaughter. I think the key in this particular case is that she demonstrated intent as well as motive, which are both primary tenets of law enforcement, making this not such a gray area case like most of the other cases I linked.
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That's why stay away from social media whores  Smiley
legendary
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I'm just telling you what is actually going on, yes it is a shitty thing to do to a person, the people involved in such things are scum, the fact is though they haven't tried to physically harm them even if they may have tried coercing them into doing it, the problem is if she's prosecuted it will set another precedent where people can't take responsbility for their own actions and therefore somebody else or something else is to blame. I don't bullshit people, I'm not going to coddle you and tell you she's a monster and a horrible person and should be thrown into jail for what she did, she's certainly a horrible person, but unfortunately if we jail people for that we're all going to be put in at one point or another.

That's just the reality of the world we live in and why we have to limit ourselves from becoming a mob that randomly lynches people we don't like.
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