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March 04, 2024, 04:39:49 AM
I want to play online casino which has the following criteria,
1. of course not a scam online casino
2. there are slots, roulette and versus (player vs player) games
3. there are deposit bonuses and free spins for new players
4. there is a daily bonus (points or free spins)
5. easy and fast withdrawal process (doesn't have many rules)
ON a serious note there's no way you can find all of these criteria in a single casino as they all peculiar in services in their own different way and strength. There are those casinso well known respectively  for their constant bonuses, for some it could be bonuses for new registered members, limited flexible  rules, others might be known for their fast withdrawal and deposits and a varieties of games Iim their platform than others. So it's just not really possible to have one casino possessing all of the criteria you had listed above. However, I could give you a list of reputable casinosi can think of right now Trustdice, freebitco.in, stakes.com, BC.games, rollbit, duelbit etc. You make your choice.
The sites you mentioned are really quite rebootable in this forum. And I think op is already familiar with these sites because these sites have been running the signature campaign of this forum for a long time. But since you must deposit money there to gamble, op should choose a site personally.  I will not offer him any specific site as it involves financial matters. But I support your mentioned list.
OP is looking for a complete Impossible casino  Grin

he is asking for so much that I believe cannot be found in single Legit casino , the problem is that those who has this promises are mostly scam gambling site.

and about those mentioned by our co member , are the casino that truly reputable and that have had prove their legibility and trustworthiness in this community.
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March 04, 2024, 04:12:18 AM
I want to play online casino which has the following criteria,
1. of course not a scam online casino
2. there are slots, roulette and versus (player vs player) games
3. there are deposit bonuses and free spins for new players
4. there is a daily bonus (points or free spins)
5. easy and fast withdrawal process (doesn't have many rules)
ON a serious note there's no way you can find all of these criteria in a single casino as they all peculiar in services in their own different way and strength. There are those casinso well known respectively  for their constant bonuses, for some it could be bonuses for new registered members, limited flexible  rules, others might be known for their fast withdrawal and deposits and a varieties of games Iim their platform than others. So it's just not really possible to have one casino possessing all of the criteria you had listed above. However, I could give you a list of reputable casinosi can think of right now Trustdice, freebitco.in, stakes.com, BC.games, rollbit, duelbit etc. You make your choice.
The sites you mentioned are really quite rebootable in this forum. And I think op is already familiar with these sites because these sites have been running the signature campaign of this forum for a long time. But since you must deposit money there to gamble, op should choose a site personally.  I will not offer him any specific site as it involves financial matters. But I support your mentioned list.
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March 04, 2024, 01:36:54 AM
I want to play online casino which has the following criteria,
1. of course not a scam online casino
2. there are slots, roulette and versus (player vs player) games
3. there are deposit bonuses and free spins for new players
4. there is a daily bonus (points or free spins)
5. easy and fast withdrawal process (doesn't have many rules)
ON a serious note there's no way you can find all of these criteria in a single casino as they all peculiar in services in their own different way and strength. There are those casinso well known respectively  for their constant bonuses, for some it could be bonuses for new registered members, limited flexible  rules, others might be known for their fast withdrawal and deposits and a varieties of games Iim their platform than others. So it's just not really possible to have one casino possessing all of the criteria you had listed above. However, I could give you a list of reputable casinosi can think of right now Trustdice, freebitco.in, stakes.com, BC.games, rollbit, duelbit etc. You make your choice.
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March 04, 2024, 12:01:47 AM
I cant blame many gamblers for this because one of the aspect that these gamblers are always having issues with often is the withdrawal process, because under there they will be requested to make the necessary provisions for their kyc when its due time, maybe gamblers should look more beyond the ordinary challenges they might have gone through and focuses more on what they are offering them, this should be the normal way of rating a gambling platform performance.

The withdrawal process may be a consideration for gamblers in terms of continuing to play at the casino or not. but I'm sure that only a few gamblers pay attention to that.
I don't think that only few pay attentions to that because we as gamblers kept looking for this in each casino we enters and play.
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although the procedure will be quite complicated, but if it is carried out smoothly, I think gamblers will not mind it too much.
wrong again mate, because we can see how much gamblers cares much when their withdrawal did not go through in couple of hours and posting here already.
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What often becomes a problem is when gamblers are finally caught making mistakes in casino regulations. which results in the gambler finally leaving the casino as if the casino was to blame for not approving the withdrawal made.
players are being judged mostly while gambling site can do anything against players.
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March 03, 2024, 06:35:30 PM
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I read all the comments talking about withdrawals and I would've understood it if we were talking about fiat-casinos but for crypto-casinos smooth and fast withdrawals shouldn't be a rating criteria, it's a must have.
If a crypto casino delays withdrawals with no acceptable or valid reason then it shouldn't be on any top casino list and it should be avoided at all costs.
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March 03, 2024, 05:45:33 PM
Agree into the fact that people would really be most likely be minding about on how smooth withdrawal could be and wont really be that matter much about other aspects such or in like with this.
It is really just that there are people who are really that liking on something but doesnt been like with others. Having no KYC, seamless withdrawal, good games offered then these are the solid
indication that you are really that dealing with a good platform. Best online casino? It is really that hard to determine since each on of us would really be having that different
likings on things or the things that we do really preferred. Some do like this and that and totally different to ours. This is why having tons of sites existing or having that good competition
does really bring out an advantage for us users or customers on which we do have tons of options that we could choose on.
Why should anyone take the withdrawal process alone to be the basis to rank a casino as favourable to play on and I'm for sure it evidence that we have other factors that contribute to what makes a casino to be the best or among the top-performing casinos by all standards because, at some point,  a casino may offer an easy withdrawal but will still have other features and aspects of the operations that are anti players.
You have a good point there, but let me shock you, the withdrawal means and pace are what I also consider my top priority in choosing my casinos, and even brokers these days. Though being the top priority doesn't make it the only consideration. We are in a competitive world and I believe that the company that can't serve me at best is not worth wasting my time with. Now, considering your objection about this, I still like you to know that the top-rated casinos/companies can never have such annoying poor services that will be so frustrating, which are your other considerations here, so the choice of the gambler is still wise and subsists regardless of other factors. Without the withdrawal, every other thing is pointless.

In other words, as long as I am not cheated for my money, then it is a go, even as I also consider other factors like yours. But these factors are already available in most casinos. I hope you get me now. I am not entirely disregarding the other qualities as you pointed out, only that the withdrawal pace and certainty will now be the distinctive qualities to watch out for in them.

Practically, a broker called me on Friday and asked me why I stopped trading with them, coincidentally, one of my replies was the duration of completing my withdrawal. They actually admitted and promised a change. Not that this broker does have other best qualities but the withdrawal is more important. I can't imagine myself leaving the brokers who complete my withdrawal instantly or almost instantly for those who are regularly completing it within 1-3 days, it annoys me. The same thing is applicable to my gambling as well.
EarnOnVictor I understood your point right from the previous comment, and I am also aware of how important it is for gambler's when it comes to withdrawal and it processes to determine what level of acceptance their give to that casino, I still remember one of the events that gave stake.com it most reputations, it was when a gambler won a $150k jackpot and stake paid out the total amount in one withdrawal without delay, this singler action gave stake they highest reputation aside from the many other factors.

So withdrawal is indeed one of the most look out for features in a casino.
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March 03, 2024, 04:15:26 PM
I want to play online casino which has the following criteria,
1. of course not a scam online casino
2. there are slots, roulette and versus (player vs player) games
3. there are deposit bonuses and free spins for new players
4. there is a daily bonus (points or free spins)
5. easy and fast withdrawal process (doesn't have many rules)

You can find many best casinos on this forum platform, and some of them are duelbits, livecasino, cryptogames, Fortunejack, Betcoin, sportsbet.io, Rollbit, stakes and others that have been running signature campaigns for a long time.

These ones I mentioned are really reputed casino platforms here in the crypto gambling business industry and their communities are big and they are really recommendable.
When it comes to best among the rest then there's no such list that we could really be able to check out.
Why? each platform does have its own set of players or to those loyals who would really be playing out because each of us does have that kind of preference and choices
when it comes to things that we are dealing. Not all would really be having on the same interest because when it comes to choices then we do have that kind of
criteria and since each site or platform does have that different UI/UX and offerings then you could really be able to expect that choices would be different.
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March 03, 2024, 05:45:40 AM
Agree into the fact that people would really be most likely be minding about on how smooth withdrawal could be and wont really be that matter much about other aspects such or in like with this.
It is really just that there are people who are really that liking on something but doesnt been like with others. Having no KYC, seamless withdrawal, good games offered then these are the solid
indication that you are really that dealing with a good platform. Best online casino? It is really that hard to determine since each on of us would really be having that different
likings on things or the things that we do really preferred. Some do like this and that and totally different to ours. This is why having tons of sites existing or having that good competition
does really bring out an advantage for us users or customers on which we do have tons of options that we could choose on.
Why should anyone take the withdrawal process alone to be the basis to rank a casino as favourable to play on and I'm for sure it evidence that we have other factors that contribute to what makes a casino to be the best or among the top-performing casinos by all standards because, at some point,  a casino may offer an easy withdrawal but will still have other features and aspects of the operations that are anti players.
You have a good point there, but let me shock you, the withdrawal means and pace are what I also consider my top priority in choosing my casinos, and even brokers these days. Though being the top priority doesn't make it the only consideration. We are in a competitive world and I believe that the company that can't serve me at best is not worth wasting my time with. Now, considering your objection about this, I still like you to know that the top-rated casinos/companies can never have such annoying poor services that will be so frustrating, which are your other considerations here, so the choice of the gambler is still wise and subsists regardless of other factors. Without the withdrawal, every other thing is pointless.

In other words, as long as I am not cheated for my money, then it is a go, even as I also consider other factors like yours. But these factors are already available in most casinos. I hope you get me now. I am not entirely disregarding the other qualities as you pointed out, only that the withdrawal pace and certainty will now be the distinctive qualities to watch out for in them.

Practically, a broker called me on Friday and asked me why I stopped trading with them, coincidentally, one of my replies was the duration of completing my withdrawal. They actually admitted and promised a change. Not that this broker does have other best qualities but the withdrawal is more important. I can't imagine myself leaving the brokers who complete my withdrawal instantly or almost instantly for those who are regularly completing it within 1-3 days, it annoys me. The same thing is applicable to my gambling as well.
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March 03, 2024, 01:53:53 AM
I want to play online casino which has the following criteria,
1. of course not a scam online casino
2. there are slots, roulette and versus (player vs player) games
3. there are deposit bonuses and free spins for new players
4. there is a daily bonus (points or free spins)
5. easy and fast withdrawal process (doesn't have many rules)

You can find many best casinos on this forum platform, and some of them are duelbits, livecasino, cryptogames, Fortunejack, Betcoin, sportsbet.io, Rollbit, stakes and others that have been running signature campaigns for a long time.

These ones I mentioned are really reputed casino platforms here in the crypto gambling business industry and their communities are big and they are really recommendable.
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March 02, 2024, 11:44:17 PM
I cant blame many gamblers for this because one of the aspect that these gamblers are always having issues with often is the withdrawal process, because under there they will be requested to make the necessary provisions for their kyc when its due time, maybe gamblers should look more beyond the ordinary challenges they might have gone through and focuses more on what they are offering them, this should be the normal way of rating a gambling platform performance.

The withdrawal process may be a consideration for gamblers in terms of continuing to play at the casino or not. but I'm sure that only a few gamblers pay attention to that. although the procedure will be quite complicated, but if it is carried out smoothly, I think gamblers will not mind it too much.
What often becomes a problem is when gamblers are finally caught making mistakes in casino regulations. which results in the gambler finally leaving the casino as if the casino was to blame for not approving the withdrawal made.
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March 02, 2024, 08:50:08 PM

I think that with many people where they gamble, their big goal is to make a profit, so when they get a big win, what they think about is most likely just a smooth withdrawal process, because of course the winnings that have been obtained and withdrawn are what they want to get immediately. process by the casino, so some people don't think about other things such as a busy network or something else, because of course when the winnings they withdraw won't be immediate, there will definitely be a pending process which allows the withdrawal to be postponed. and at that time maybe the gambler who won was impatient with the winnings he was drawing. It's true what you said, it's possible that casinos can provide easy withdrawals, but they still have other aspects or features that are withdrawal requirements.

You are very right with this that the major concern of most gambler's who take gambling as ways of making profits will only look at the ability of the casinos to be able to make out their payments when they win big amount as the major feature that attracts them to the casino and if their going to take a read though some casinos terms and conditions or reviews they make sure to see how best the casino treats their player's who have won big amount in bets on the casino before.

So I am sure not only you but even me will take widrawal seriously but it doesn't just end at having good withdrawal features alone it caught accros other aspects that Many will take note of before their can say a casino is best among others in this highly competitive gambling market.

maybe for big wins and they withdraw them there are certain requirements, or even worse the winnings they get are not paid. because there are casinos that cheat, as I have experienced before. The big win I got was not paid, I waited a long time until the withdrawal notification was approved, but for so long I waited for it to not happen. Honestly, this makes me annoyed, because the wins that are rarely obtained are clearly added to the fact that once you win you don't get paid, it's annoying. The best casinos in my opinion process money deposits and withdrawals of winnings quickly, although there are some casinos that sometimes take time to process withdrawals or deposits, but that's definitely their process. What is clear is that in my opinion there is no certainty whether the casino is cheating or not, so when we make a deposit there will only be a statement that it is being processed, but we don't know what will happen next, as long as I gamble I have only experienced one bad thing, namely my winnings were not paid, despite waiting quite a long time. This makes gamblers uncomfortable, but I'm sure that in casinos that don't pay out the winnings that I get, there must be other people who play, but whether in reality those who get winnings are paid or not, I don't know that.

The point is that the best casino can be determined by us after we try it, if it's just advice from other people, we can't confirm it clearly, because we don't feel it.
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March 02, 2024, 01:48:32 PM
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I think that with many people where they gamble, their big goal is to make a profit, so when they get a big win, what they think about is most likely just a smooth withdrawal process, because of course the winnings that have been obtained and withdrawn are what they want to get immediately. process by the casino, so some people don't think about other things such as a busy network or something else, because of course when the winnings they withdraw won't be immediate, there will definitely be a pending process which allows the withdrawal to be postponed. and at that time maybe the gambler who won was impatient with the winnings he was drawing. It's true what you said, it's possible that casinos can provide easy withdrawals, but they still have other aspects or features that are withdrawal requirements.


You are very right with this that the major concern of most gambler's who take gambling as ways of making profits will only look at the ability of the casinos to be able to make out their payments when they win big amount as the major feature that attracts them to the casino and if their going to take a read though some casinos terms and conditions or reviews they make sure to see how best the casino treats their player's who have won big amount in bets on the casino before.

So I am sure not only you but even me will take widrawal seriously but it doesn't just end at having good withdrawal features alone it caught accros other aspects that Many will take note of before their can say a casino is best among others in this highly competitive gambling market.
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March 02, 2024, 12:36:43 PM
Why should anyone take the withdrawal process alone to be the basis to rank a casino as favourable to play on and I'm for sure it evidence that we have other factors that contribute to what makes a casino to be the best or among the top-performing casinos by all standards because, at some point,  a casino may offer an easy withdrawal but will still have other features and aspects of the operations that are anti players.

I cant blame many gamblers for this because one of the aspect that these gamblers are always having issues with often is the withdrawal process, because under there they will be requested to make the necessary provisions for their kyc when its due time, maybe gamblers should look more beyond the ordinary challenges they might have gone through and focuses more on what they are offering them, this should be the normal way of rating a gambling platform performance.
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March 02, 2024, 12:09:35 PM
op is asking like a fool. Because not all sites will be liked by everyone. the op needs to understand this. and a gambling site has many games, op should have mentioned which game he likes. then he could have been given a proper idea. Gambling is basically about fun so here you have to spend money and have fun. the money you invest in a gambling site should always be of the mindset that you are spending it for fun, it is not an investment and you should not expect returns from it. so op can use any site he want
I think the Op has explained some points about preferred casinos, he can't possibly multiple betting games and doesn't focus on one betting game, overall he is just asking top casinos that avoid scam casinos or unfair casinos in betting. However, this question is very boring because every member has answered with the same casino because we will not suggest other casinos that harm gamblers.

I recommend this answer for the OP, because all the casino reviews have been answered making it easier for the Op to find the desired casino.

To give you an example, here are some of the online gambling platforms that currently has a signature campaign:

  • Duelbits;
  • Rollbit;
  • Fortune Jack;
  • Roobet;
  • Stake;
  • Betcoin;
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March 02, 2024, 02:53:15 AM
First of all, you have to know your preference and what your desires are or what you are looking out for from the casino

That's true, we have to first identify with what we want in gambling, this will now be what we are goin to work upon in determining whether we are going to conclude on a particular gambling as the best one for us or not, what we can see as the best or worse may be the opposite of what others could interpret their own casino for, what will be the determination on whether we like one or not is under the preference to what we want from them and how we got satisfied by what they provided.
It would be best for op to ask the question like what's the best casino for this kind of game. This is being a realistic answers rather looking for the best casinos in the world. This is not a realistic question because everyone will want to give there own opinions based on some certain game experience. It is good and better if the question is very realistic because this will bring a smart answers with a better option to go for, mostly seeing people giving there own opinions based on different experiences.
op is asking like a fool. Because not all sites will be liked by everyone. the op needs to understand this. and a gambling site has many games, op should have mentioned which game he likes. then he could have been given a proper idea. Gambling is basically about fun so here you have to spend money and have fun. the money you invest in a gambling site should always be of the mindset that you are spending it for fun, it is not an investment and you should not expect returns from it. so op can use any site he want
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March 02, 2024, 01:42:09 AM
For me, there is nothing I can say that is the best online casino, because anywhere that crypto gambling is, as long as it has a good reputation in the field of this industry, that's fine with me. Also, the contents of the games that the casinos have are almost the same; they differ only in the name of the casino and the gimmicks in the bonuses.
but always the problem is about the Withdrawal and the support mate because we knew how casino compete nowadays promising instant withdrawals and bonuses but knowing they are only trapping your money.
but like what said almost every sites has same games offered.


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Even with the incentives they give to their regular players, who are their gambling platform, There are many reputable casinos, and their services are good, and they are still supported by many communities here in the crypto space.
exactly , so we need to seek those most supported of this forum because we have a lot of casinos here but only others that has a bad reputation.
so deal at your own risk and better those old running here.
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March 02, 2024, 12:09:46 AM
Why should anyone take the withdrawal process alone to be the basis to rank a casino as favourable to play on and I'm for sure it evidence that we have other factors that contribute to what makes a casino to be the best or among the top-performing casinos by all standards because, at some point,  a casino may offer an easy withdrawal but will still have other features and aspects of the operations that are anti players.

We need to consider many things before we declare a casino to be the best,  and aside from withdrawal,  we have other aspects such as the ease of flexibility and how user-friendly the interface of the casino is and how they treat their players when issues arise during their time of play on that casino.

I think that with many people where they gamble, their big goal is to make a profit, so when they get a big win, what they think about is most likely just a smooth withdrawal process, because of course the winnings that have been obtained and withdrawn are what they want to get immediately. process by the casino, so some people don't think about other things such as a busy network or something else, because of course when the winnings they withdraw won't be immediate, there will definitely be a pending process which allows the withdrawal to be postponed. and at that time maybe the gambler who won was impatient with the winnings he was drawing. It's true what you said, it's possible that casinos can provide easy withdrawals, but they still have other aspects or features that are withdrawal requirements.

and I think the best casino can be determined by whether we have gambled in it, whether the process and operation of the game makes us comfortable or not, because if it doesn't make us comfortable then it's not a good casino, a good casino is the one that provides convenience to its customers. and some people will definitely suggest the best casinos with their opinions, but that's not necessarily the best for us.
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March 01, 2024, 04:59:31 PM
Agree into the fact that people would really be most likely be minding about on how smooth withdrawal could be and wont really be that matter much about other aspects such or in like with this.
It is really just that there are people who are really that liking on something but doesnt been like with others. Having no KYC, seamless withdrawal, good games offered then these are the solid
indication that you are really that dealing with a good platform. Best online casino? It is really that hard to determine since each on of us would really be having that different
likings on things or the things that we do really preferred. Some do like this and that and totally different to ours. This is why having tons of sites existing or having that good competition
does really bring out an advantage for us users or customers on which we do have tons of options that we could choose on.
Why should anyone take the withdrawal process alone to be the basis to rank a casino as favourable to play on and I'm for sure it evidence that we have other factors that contribute to what makes a casino to be the best or among the top-performing casinos by all standards because, at some point,  a casino may offer an easy withdrawal but will still have other features and aspects of the operations that are anti players.

We need to consider many things before we declare a casino to be the best,  and aside from withdrawal,  we have other aspects such as the ease of flexibility and how user-friendly the interface of the casino is and how they treat their players when issues arise during their time of play on that casino.
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March 01, 2024, 04:49:55 PM
For me, there is nothing I can say that is the best online casino, because anywhere that crypto gambling is, as long as it has a good reputation in the field of this industry, that's fine with me. Also, the contents of the games that the casinos have are almost the same; they differ only in the name of the casino and the gimmicks in the bonuses.

Even with the incentives they give to their regular players, who are their gambling platform, There are many reputable casinos, and their services are good, and they are still supported by many communities here in the crypto space.

I get your point, reputation is important, good support as well, and I think we can say that most casinos have the same or similar games, and they all offer some bonuses and promotions, but in the end, each of us has our own taste and there are those little things like casino colors, navigation through games, an overview of sports markets, easy navigation overall, all those things play a big role when we choose where to spend our money. Sometimes the best casino is the one when we are winning mostly. So maybe it's small things, but I think that each of us has a favorite casino that we think is better than others.




All comes down to sites that really care about the customer experience which includes the long term investment in reputation a no-nonsense approach to getting the KYC process and allow the withdrawals without much fuss and then, only after the basics are covered, you can start thinking of games, user interface, variety, promos and bonuses etc.
Agree into the fact that people would really be most likely be minding about on how smooth withdrawal could be and wont really be that matter much about other aspects such or in like with this.
It is really just that there are people who are really that liking on something but doesnt been like with others. Having no KYC, seamless withdrawal, good games offered then these are the solid
indication that you are really that dealing with a good platform. Best online casino? It is really that hard to determine since each on of us would really be having that different
likings on things or the things that we do really preferred. Some do like this and that and totally different to ours. This is why having tons of sites existing or having that good competition
does really bring out advantage for us users or customers on which we do have tons of options that we could choose on.
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March 01, 2024, 02:45:23 PM
First of all, you have to know your preference and what your desires are or what you are looking out for from the casino

That's true, we have to first identify with what we want in gambling, this will now be what we are goin to work upon in determining whether we are going to conclude on a particular gambling as the best one for us or not, what we can see as the best or worse may be the opposite of what others could interpret their own casino for, what will be the determination on whether we like one or not is under the preference to what we want from them and how we got satisfied by what they provided.
It would be best for op to ask the question like what's the best casino for this kind of game. This is being a realistic answers rather looking for the best casinos in the world. This is not a realistic question because everyone will want to give there own opinions based on some certain game experience. It is good and better if the question is very realistic because this will bring a smart answers with a better option to go for, mostly seeing people giving there own opinions based on different experiences.
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