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Topic: Temp Sig Bans please - For a new kind of Campaign - page 2. (Read 868 times)

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And I tell you that most of the participants of the current campaign didn't get banned before, because it's not the same people -or at least accounts- as the previous campaign.
AFAIK,if an account got removed by the yobit bot then it is not possible to enroll into their panel forever.

Surely there will be lot of good participants in yobit as well but you have to see what is happening by reading this Need Negative rating members for Signature Campaign (0.0024 BTC) per day!!.

People uses this an opportunity to make few buck before yahoo find out that spammer and scammer.
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LoyceV has a post or thread on users who get temp bans actively posting again after their bans finished (as I remembered). I think LoyceV has data on this
The number of people thinking I'm suchmoon is increasing Tongue He/she/plaguebot may have the same avatar and signature, it's still not me Cheesy
You're looking for Effect of signature bans. By suchmoon Tongue
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So this is the second time if there will be a ban for them so it will be most likely more longer than the first one for yobit related signature.
Where did you see it was the same members as the previous campaign?
Most of the participants of the previous campaign have been tagged by IconFirm/blurryeyed, and I'm sorry but I don't see any trust feed back from IconFirm/blurryeyed on the profile of the current participants. In fact, I think there is really much more people this time.
I don't get what you are talking about.

I mentioned about their signature got banned by admin earlier which happened few months earlier. Roll Eyes
And I tell you that most of the participants of the current campaign didn't get banned before, because it's not the same people -or at least accounts- as the previous campaign.
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A signature ban and a real ban are practically the same thing for many of these members, who are only posting to get paid.  So I would certainly have no objections to not allowing them to use their sig space for advertising, at least for a while.  Then maybe they'll get the message (if they didn't already with your campaign ban) that they need to seriously improve.  
LoyceV has a post or thread on users who get temp bans actively posting again after their bans finished (as I remembered). I think LoyceV has data on this, and things will become clearer if he can provide how many percent of old participants of past rounds of Yobit campaign join CryptoTalk.
From such data, I mean that temp bans don't play huge role on control spammers. They will abandon their accounts during ban period, or leave accounts in hypernation phase, but when something pay high, they will actively come back and make spam posts.
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Not a bad idea either.  Theymos shocked me when he did that with the Yobit participants last time, but I thought it was reasonable.  A lot of those folks had flooded the forum with more garbage than usual and I think they deserved what they got--and the punishment IMO was fair and not overly harsh.  Not all of the participants are shitposters, so going by the ones that were banned from Yahoo62278's campaign would be a good guideline on who ought to be held accountable.
It shocked me too, but honestly I felt it is unfair somehow. Spam is spam, burst post is burspost no matter which campaigns users join and wear signatures when they spam or burst post. There are lots of spammers or burst posters who don't wear Yobit signature have not been temp banned.
It seems Yobit mades noise and people focused too much on them and their supporters months ago. Punishments are likely harsher for Yobit participants, but anyway it is the forum managed by theymos (and some others), so they have rights to do anything they want to keep it clean.
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I don't mean a sig ban either, I mean ban from the forum for a minimum 30 days.
A signature ban and a real ban are practically the same thing for many of these members, who are only posting to get paid.  So I would certainly have no objections to not allowing them to use their sig space for advertising, at least for a while.  Then maybe they'll get the message (if they didn't already with your campaign ban) that they need to seriously improve. 

What I suggest is we retain the 30-day ban for spammers and if they repeat the same kind of half-assed effort they were doing in order to get paid from campaigns, impose a permanent ban on their accounts.
Not a bad idea either.  Theymos shocked me when he did that with the Yobit participants last time, but I thought it was reasonable.  A lot of those folks had flooded the forum with more garbage than usual and I think they deserved what they got--and the punishment IMO was fair and not overly harsh.  Not all of the participants are shitposters, so going by the ones that were banned from Yahoo62278's campaign would be a good guideline on who ought to be held accountable.
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Now before people show up with their pitchforks calling for a forum wide Ban, or rotten tomatoes because they lost their job this week. I would like to request Temp Sig Bans for anyone on the Banned list.
List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign

Nothing crazy, or go crazy what do I care. This will help in clearing a lot of Sig spam from the forum for one. - The rest of the benefits really are for anyone trying to identify current spammers, or assist in monitoring this campaign. By imposing a Sig ban on these members peolpe will no longer have to double check over and over if they are on the list. It won't interfere with anyone not spamming the forum strictly for the money. Thoughts?

No that would be open to extreme criticism, you would need a strict set of criteria for this and evidence that each person has been matched against it equally for banning them or giving them a sig ban. This would all need to be transparent and also it would be essential ALL participants were measured equally against such criteria. This is how it should work for campaign managers anyway, the fact they can defer responsibility to the gamed metrics that DT control to ensure they themselves are the most eligible is LAUGHABLE and disgraceful. May explain why all DT members are spamming away chipmixer and other highly paid sigs LOL

I certainly would also take into account here that EVERY post here on this thread here is made by people that are intent of milking the board for the maximum they can. You can hardly miss the FACT most people here are financially motivated posters and would not be posting as much if they were not doing it "for the money"  hence a conflict of interests instantly arises.

Strict clear and transparent criteria for all members or forget the sig banning.

Ban all sigs for members and see who we have left after a couple of years.

Spam vs negative value specious arguments and statements = spam is less harmful really.
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So this is the second time if there will be a ban for them so it will be most likely more longer than the first one for yobit related signature.
Where did you see it was the same members as the previous campaign?
Most of the participants of the previous campaign have been tagged by IconFirm/blurryeyed, and I'm sorry but I don't see any trust feed back from IconFirm/blurryeyed on the profile of the current participants. In fact, I think there is really much more people this time.
I don't get what you are talking about.

I mentioned about their signature got banned by admin earlier which happened few months earlier. Roll Eyes
legendary
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So this is the second time if there will be a ban for them so it will be most likely more longer than the first one for yobit related signature.
Where did you see it was the same members as the previous campaign?
Most of the participants of the previous campaign have been tagged by IconFirm/blurryeyed, and I'm sorry but I don't see any trust feed back from IconFirm/blurryeyed on the profile of the current participants. In fact, I think there is really much more people this time.
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Days ago, I saw someone complained about 30-day temp-ban as consequence of spam PMs (Sorry BitcoinFX, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages). That temp-ban period is very different between cases, depend on themselves and moderators who are responsible for those cases.
Hhampuz, months ago, was only temporarily ban for 7-days.
It depends on the moderator or admin handling that report,I saw somewhere that one global mod has the habit of issuing 10,20 and 30 days ban instead of common 7,14 and 30 days temp ban.They also have power to change ban if they feel it was in appropriate.

So this is the second time if there will be a ban for them so it will be most likely more longer than the first one for yobit related signature.
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Temp ban or not, and how long temp ban lasts will depend on which rules of the forum they don't obey, and how severe of rule disobeyment they did.
Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)
There are lots of rules which spam-/ shit-posters don't obey, such as burst posting.

Burst posting happens with many campaigns that are not managed by good managers. If participants of other campaigns don't get temp ban for burst posting (I think some of them are temporarily banned, but not all of them), and their corresponding bans depend on their speed of burst posting and how many burst-posts they did.

Days ago, I saw someone complained about 30-day temp-ban as consequence of spam PMs (Sorry BitcoinFX, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages). That temp-ban period is very different between cases, depend on themselves and moderators who are responsible for those cases.
Hhampuz, months ago, was only temporarily ban for 7-days.
23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.[e]
There are likely some special solutions, what we already saw months ago with Yobit campaign, when theymos made temp-bans on Yobit-supporters who were reported from their bad posts. Not sure what will happen this time with Crypto Talk.
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Temporary signature bans are somewhat a bit of a light punishment for people abusing campaigns and chasing profits rather than contribute to the quality of discussions found within this forum. What I suggest is we retain the 30-day ban for spammers and if they repeat the same kind of half-assed effort they were doing in order to get paid from campaigns, impose a permanent ban on their accounts. This is a no-brainer, considering the fact that a lot of people in here are trying their best efforts to report spammy posts and users in order to keep the forum clean and free from eyesore posts made by users who are just in it for the pay, not the discussion and the very essence of a forum.
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But if the offense is so hard like post bursting, In my jurisdiction they should recieve a signature ban and a redtrust.

Another situation is off topic or wrong grammar statements, I believe that they should get a warning strikes before banning on something.

You don't leave trust feedbacks based on posting habit, feedbacks are for trust related issue like scams etc. On the issue of wrong gramma, not everyone on the forum has english as their official or first language and since the forum doesn't host all local board for them to communicate in, you can't be too hard on them for trying to communicate with a language that isn't theirs as there will always be room for mistakes.

Although when this mistakes are repeatedly too obvious that it totally changes the meaning of the information they were trying to pass across, turning it into a spam then giving them a time out to go work on their english isn't such a bad idea.
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My guess is you would agree with most of them.
In fact I agree with most of them and deep inside I wish they all get a perma-ban.
My point here is that not all their offenses deserve the same sentence.

If mods are going to take action against them, then it should be on a case by case basis.
You already made it easier for mods by adding the reason behind the ban  Smiley
Yes its better if they provide a punishment depending on the case that the offender did.

We know that everyone of us isnt perfect to abide the forum rules, But if the offense is so hard like post bursting, In my jurisdiction they should recieve a signature ban and a redtrust. On plagiarism case , It should be obvious that they should recieve permanent ban in this forum. Another situation is off topic or wrong grammar statements, I believe that they should get a warning strikes before banning on something.
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My guess is you would agree with most of them.
In fact I agree with most of them and deep inside I wish they all get a perma-ban.
My point here is that not all their offenses deserve the same sentence.

If mods are going to take action against them, then it should be on a case by case basis.
You already made it easier for mods by adding the reason behind the ban  Smiley
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I dont't think it is a good idea.
By sig-banning them, you deprive them from their right to join another campaign or to promote their own business just because they were removed from the Yobit campaign which is based ,only, on yahoo's judgement (with all due respect to yahoo).


Yes I agree that most of the users are based on my opinion, but you are free to look up everyone on that list and see if you form a different opinion. My guess is you would agree with most of them.
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I dont't think it is a good idea.
By sig-banning them, you deprive them from their right to join another campaign or to promote their own business just because they were removed from the Yobit campaign which is based ,only, on yahoo's judgement (with all due respect to yahoo).

Their offenses are declared openly therefore anyone can review this to confirm they deserve to be blacklisted. They were causing a nuisance by spamming the forum. Only those accused of spamming on the list would be affected by the way. The other offenses like, not wearing right signature and personal text or not been eligible for the campaign aren't punishable by the adminstrators.

Consider the list to be a recommendation from @Yahoo just as when you report a post and the moderators take action. He's the manager and have complied a list of those he felt are abusing the privilege now it's left for the offenders to be review and punished based on the suggestion by the OP. Those in question here are just the spammers.
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I agree with yahoo, many of these accounts seem to be farmed, bought or hacked accounts, so they should be banned for several weeks at least to drain the swamp...
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Well I believe there will be a decent amount of space taken up on the modlog that will back up Yahoo's opinion. I do hope everyone is reporting posts after notifying Yahoo, so that we are also clearing the boards as well. If you are getting removed from a campaign for Sig-spamming/burst posting solely for profit, you don't deserve the privilege not right.
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I dont't think it is a good idea.
By sig-banning them, you deprive them from their right to join another campaign or to promote their own business just because they were removed from the Yobit campaign which is based ,only, on yahoo's judgement (with all due respect to yahoo).

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I don't expect all of them to be banned, but it would be nice if a Mod can at least review all listed accounts.
I've made long lists of abusers in the past, but those were mainly low-ranking accounts that could be Nuked by most Mods.
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